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Next Year 2024 Schedule

Move to a 9 game schedule. Line the teams up 1-18 by preferred partner/rival. Then rotate through. You play the partner/rival every three out of four years guaranteed, and everyone else at least every other year. For example:
  1. Bc
  2. Su
  3. Pitt
  4. Va tech
  5. Uva
  6. Cal
  7. Stan
  8. Nd
  9. Miami
  10. Fsu
  11. Ncst
  12. Unc
  13. Duke
  14. Wake
  15. Ga tech
  16. Clemp
  17. Louis
  18. Smu
 
What games are sacred? There is no ACC version of the Iron Bowl.

NC and NC State? Not really UNC cares more about Duke even if it isn't basketball.

Miami FSU had no interest in playing prior to Miami joining the ACC.

UVA and VT I don't think used to play either annually.

Getting out of Pitt every year might make me on board with this. Of course it won't happen though.
UVa-UNC comes closest to being sacred in the minds of the ACC hierarchy. Tied for 7th most played overall and 2nd in D-1A at 127 games. The last years that were missed were because of WW I and, before that, a UVa player dying on the field vs. Georgetown in 1909 the week before we were scheduled to play. While there are more years that were missed, we've played VPI 103 times, every year since 1970.
 
Move to a 9 game schedule. Line the teams up 1-18 by preferred partner/rival. Then rotate through. You play the partner/rival every three out of four years guaranteed, and everyone else at least every other year. For example:
  1. Bc
  2. Su
  3. Pitt
  4. Va tech
  5. Uva
  6. Cal
  7. Stan
  8. Nd
  9. Miami
  10. Fsu
  11. Ncst
  12. Unc
  13. Duke
  14. Wake
  15. Ga tech
  16. Clemp
  17. Louis
  18. Smu
Interesting. Have you actually worked out the detail that ND only plays 5 ACC FB games a year in this?

These work better: the main difference between the two is, should Miami get Louisville or BC? Should BC get VaTech or Miami? Should VaTech get BC or Louisville?

BC
SU
Pitt
ND
Stan
Cal
SMU
Louis
Miami
FSU
Clemson
GaTech
Wake
Duke
NC State
UNC
UVa
VaTech

BC
SU
Pitt
ND
Stan
Cal
SMU
Louis
VaTech
UVa
UNC
NC State
Duke
Wake
GaTech
Clemson
FSU
Miami
 
How is ND's 5-game deal impacted by Stanford's arrival? Does it become a de facto 4-game deal + annual Stanford game?
 
Interesting. Have you actually worked out the detail that ND only plays 5 ACC FB games a year in this?
No I didn’t. I forgot they’re “special.” I think you could do the same thing though, pull ND out, then use an 8 conference game schedule.

ND would then be a non conference game for 5 members (ACC should push for 6 with Stanford joining).
 
How is ND's 5-game deal impacted by Stanford's arrival? Does it become a de facto 4-game deal + annual Stanford game?
They haven't said. It may become "an extra ACC game", i.e. ND plays 5 that rotate plus Stanford.
 
I read/heard somewhere after the news dropped on Friday that ND would keep Stanford as a OOC game.
 
4-4-4-4
 
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if one takes with Phillips said literally, it provides valuable insights into the future schedule.


Football traveling East to West will be once every other year for our current 14 members schools, and so once every two years is how football will work out [for those 14 schools].

If this is true, it implies the 2–7-7 model has been adopted. The two rivals for the newbies are the other newbies.

So all ACC schools play a rival at home each year and a rival on the road. And the other 7 conferences games are against pool A or pool B of ACC schools. Both pools have 7 members and the members will be slightly different depending on the rivals a given school has.

We know that Cal will be in one pool of 8 and Stanford in the other pool.

They will probably try to balance the pools to put a Florida school in each pool.

They will probably take to balance schedules by putting Clemson and FSU in different pools (though they will likely be rivals to help with TV ratings.

If all this is true, I would assume BC, SU and Pitt would be paired together so that the two rivals for each are the other two. So SU would get BC and Pitt. Very similar to Stanford, Cal and SMU.

Here is how the pools might look for Syracuse:

Pool A
Clemson
Georgia Tech
Miami
Duke
Wake Forest
Virginia
Stanford

Pool B
Florida State
NC State
UNC
Louisville
Virginia Tech
SMU
California

(plus BC & Pitt)

The pools for Pitt and BC would look the same as they do for SU.

To get the pools for another school, replace Syracuse with the school and replace the school’s rivals with SU’s rivals.

So Stanford would look like this:

Pool A
Clemson
Georgia Tech
Miami
Duke
Wake Forest
Virginia
Syracuse

Pool B
Florida State
NC State
UNC
Louisville
Virginia Tech
BC
Pitt

(plus Cal & SMU)

When Phillips says the California teams will have 3 or 4 east coast away games for football each year, this is because they will always have 4 home games. Every other year, they play the other California team at home. In those years, there are 3 east coast road trips. The other year, where they play at SMU, there are 4 ’east coast’ road trips, where SMU is considered an east coast roadie.

It will be tough to get down to 2 rivals for some schools. It will really be tough to bump up to 9 conference games for the ACC schools that play an SEC school on Thanksgiving weekend. You can see more reasons why Clemson and FSU were against this. UNC apparently voted no because that is their thing. (Rolls eyes).

From SU’s perspective, I think they would like to play a team from Florida every year, they want to play their rivals every year and they want to retain Miami at home for 2024 because this is a game fans have waited decades for. If they can split BC and Pitt so we always have one at home, that would be really nice too.
 
UVa-UNC comes closest to being sacred in the minds of the ACC hierarchy. Tied for 7th most played overall and 2nd in D-1A at 127 games. The last years that were missed were because of WW I and, before that, a UVa player dying on the field vs. Georgetown in 1909 the week before we were scheduled to play. While there are more years that were missed, we've played VPI 103 times, every year since 1970.
Your UVAs third rival. It’s ok we aren’t Pitt or WVUs biggest rival in football.

No reason playing them annually should mess up everyone else’s scheduling.
 
Your UVAs third rival. It’s ok we aren’t Pitt or WVUs biggest rival in football.

No reason playing them annually should mess up everyone else’s scheduling.
We're their second rival behind Duke. NC State is UNC's rival only on paper, to people wearing red, and in the minds of people outside NC. The UNC board is loaded with the hashtag #notourrival whenever they play NCSU. Don't be surprised when the ACC adopts the 2-7-7 schedule to bring in the new teams and Duke and UVa are UNC's permanent teams.
 
Keep in mind that moving to 9 conference games necessitates additional rights fees from ESPN. The league just won't do it, it'll be a negotiated term.

It's possible ESPN doesn't want to pay for 9 games, especially now that they have to shell out the pro-rata payment for 3 additional schools.
 
If we are going down to 2 perms...

BC has Miami, Pitt, and SU. I would think that they would want Pitt dropped.

Clemson has FSU, GA Tech, NC State. GA Tech will stay. Would they want NC State as the 2nd? ESPN would want FSU.

Duke has UNC, NC State, Wake. UNC for sure but then who?

FSU has Clemson, Miami, SU. Miami for sure. They might want SU for the same reasons we got stuck with them in the first place.

GA Tech has Clemson, Louisville, Wake. Clemson is a yes. After that?

Louisville has GA Tech, Miami, UVA. None of these have to stay. Could they add Pitt?

Miami has BC, FSU, Louisville. FSU will stay. I think they want the Northeastern game and BC stays too.

UNC has Duke, NC State, UVA. I think NC State gets dropped. Interesting that NC State changing their vote might kill the UNC-NC State yearly game.

NC State has Clemson, Duke, UNC. If they lose UNC you might have to throw them a bone with the other 2. Maybe they get Wake back?

Pitt has BC, SU, VA Tech. Louisville might be an add.

SU has BC, FSU, Pitt. I think we get stuck with FSU. Who do we want BC or Pitt?

UVA has Louisville, UNC, VA Tech. This is easy.

VA Tech has Pitt, UVA, Wake.

Wake has Duke, GA Tech, VA Tech. Adding back NC State makes sense.

I think Cal, SMU, Stanford all have each other as their two.


A lot of yearly series will be lost. Which is why I prefer 4 x 4/4/4. If we see 2 x 7/7 it won't be so bad. But 2 x 6 would be. Plus with 4 perm we only travel out West once every 3 years. A lot better than every other year.

Also if you are SU wouldn't you want only 8 ACC games? That allows us more flexibility OOC to schedule Northeastern OOC games. Same goes for Stanford/Cal and the West. SMU and Texas. Plus the four teams with SEC rivals would want no part in 9 games. That should be enough to kill 9 games.
 
People need to get comfortable with the reality that college football doesn't really have conferences anymore. Not in the traditional sense. It has leagues.

And in league you only play a few teams regularly, and you don't play a majority of the league annually.

There's no way for a 17 or 18 team football league to have any semblance of scheduling frequency. We'll play BC and Pitt annually I imagine, and the rest we'll play when we play. Probably every 3-4 years,
 
We're their second rival behind Duke. NC State is UNC's rival only on paper, to people wearing red, and in the minds of people outside NC. The UNC board is loaded with the hashtag #notourrival whenever they play NCSU. Don't be surprised when the ACC adopts the 2-7-7 schedule to bring in the new teams and Duke and UVa are UNC's permanent teams.

Maybe UNC and NC State are separated by 10 miles hard for one to claim its not a rivalry especially when NC State seems to win most of the time in FB.

How many points are you guys going to be giving up to JMU at home next weekend? 6 or 7?
 
If we are going down to 2 perms...

BC has Miami, Pitt, and SU. I would think that they would want Pitt dropped.

Clemson has FSU, GA Tech, NC State. GA Tech will stay. Would they want NC State as the 2nd? ESPN would want FSU.

Duke has UNC, NC State, Wake. UNC for sure but then who?

FSU has Clemson, Miami, SU. Miami for sure. They might want SU for the same reasons we got stuck with them in the first place.

GA Tech has Clemson, Louisville, Wake. Clemson is a yes. After that?

Louisville has GA Tech, Miami, UVA. None of these have to stay. Could they add Pitt?

Miami has BC, FSU, Louisville. FSU will stay. I think they want the Northeastern game and BC stays too.

UNC has Duke, NC State, UVA. I think NC State gets dropped. Interesting that NC State changing their vote might kill the UNC-NC State yearly game.

NC State has Clemson, Duke, UNC. If they lose UNC you might have to throw them a bone with the other 2. Maybe they get Wake back?

Pitt has BC, SU, VA Tech. Louisville might be an add.

SU has BC, FSU, Pitt. I think we get stuck with FSU. Who do we want BC or Pitt?

UVA has Louisville, UNC, VA Tech. This is easy.

VA Tech has Pitt, UVA, Wake.

Wake has Duke, GA Tech, VA Tech. Adding back NC State makes sense.

I think Cal, SMU, Stanford all have each other as their two.


A lot of yearly series will be lost. Which is why I prefer 4 x 4/4/4. If we see 2 x 7/7 it won't be so bad. But 2 x 6 would be. Plus with 4 perm we only travel out West once every 3 years. A lot better than every other year.

Also if you are SU wouldn't you want only 8 ACC games? That allows us more flexibility OOC to schedule Northeastern OOC games. Same goes for Stanford/Cal and the West. SMU and Texas. Plus the four teams with SEC rivals would want no part in 9 games. That should be enough to kill 9 games.
Get rid of FSU, we should be BC and Pitt.
 
Maybe UNC and NC State are separated by 10 miles hard for one to claim its not a rivalry especially when NC State seems to win most of the time in FB.

How many points are you guys going to be giving up to JMU at home next weekend? 6 or 7?
Someone posted the line was 6. The ball isn't round and a grass field isn't perfectly flat. Oh, and while we're at it, we've moved on from UMBC.
 
2 works well with a 9 game schedule. Not great with an 8 game schedule.

You end up with 14 teams you need to play and 6 games a year to play them. It isn’t clean.

2-7-7 completes the loop so you play everyone at least once every two years. Really good for building and retaining rivalries.

I think 2-7-7 or 4-4-4-4 are the best possibilities.

Agree with Otto. 8-8 (no annual rival) is a non-starter. Too many long standing rivalry games lost and it makes for way more travel for everyone with the 3 newbies not paired together.

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Someone posted the line was 6. The ball isn't round and a grass field isn't perfectly flat. Oh, and while we're at it, we've moved on from UMBC.
I was just being facetious but the line actually is JMU on the road -7. Wow.
 
There are more questions about our team and program than there are answers right now. Our board is in absolute chaos.
Hopefully Tony gets things turned around soon.

How do Virginia fans feel about the expansion? It is considered a good thing?
 

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