Next Year 2024 Schedule

[Hoo's That]

Hopefully Tony gets things turned around soon.

How do Virginia fans feel about the expansion? It is considered a good thing?

Our West Coast and Texas alums are ecstatic. As for the rest of them - I'll put it this way. They feel a primary selection criterion for choosing OOC opponents should be whether they can drive to the away game, so you can imagine how they feel about 12 years of games in Cali and Texas. That said, they would like to see the plan for scheduling the Olympic sports. I'm sure the rowing fans kind of gulped knowing that we finished 10th in the 2023 NCAAs and we just brought in the teams that finished 1st (Stanford), 8th (Cal) and 9th (SMU).

A lot of our posters, like here, are operating under the mistaken assumption that the ACC sat on their hands doing nothing and just got the leftovers. I saw the Tweets here about the ACC working behind the scenes for a year with no success and posted them on our board. Some, but not all, paid attention. Personally, I think it was a smart move. I was one of the people who was very happy when we played USC-w, UCLA, and Orygun. because they weren't any of the usual suspects. With the right coach, I think that SMU is quite capable of following the same arc that TCU did under Patterson when it moved from the Mountain West to the Big XII. It will be more than just amusing to see them as one of the semi-regulars in the ACCCG, bumping out Clemson and/or FSU for a slot.

 

[FRANKIEFAN]

There are more questions about our team and program than there are answers right now. Our board is in absolute chaos.

Huh. Not many teams out there that would give Tennessee a game or keep it close TBH. I'm not really looking forward to playing them week 1 at a neutral site in 2 years.

Lose to JMU at home then I guess its time to worry but I think you'll win next week.

 

[Scooch]

There are more questions about our team and program than there are answers right now. Our board is in absolute chaos.

Unfortunately I think Elliot was a bad hire. I sat thru the UVA-Miami game last year (my daughter is a student at your fine institution) and it was along the most pathetic offensive displays I’ve ever seen.

Elliot was amazing dealing with the tragedy. He’s clearly a very very good human being. I’m just not sure he’s even an average head coach.

 

[cuse62]

As far as what schedule the ACC adopts, I think the ACC should ask Clemson, Florida State and UNC what they want, then do the opposite.

 

[KaiserUEO]

9 game schedule might be tough too many ooc rivalry games

Rivalry games????

what is this 2022???

nobody gives a flying fluck about those anymore.

 

[TexanMark]

Rivalry games????

what is this 2022???

nobody gives a flying fluck about those anymore.

Yeah...we have none so no one else should have one

 

[KaiserUEO]

Yeah...we have none so no one else should have one

this is all about $$$$.

nobody cares anymore.

texas taught us that whent they left A & M,.

yes i know they had okie, blah blah blah interstate is always a big deal, it meant a lot to W and O.


wait...

super confs will be at 10 games shortly.

seriously, i mean, am i the only one who already thinks 4 OOC games might as well be the 70s independents?

play as many teams in your conf!!!

and it will happen.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

It can't be 9 games. With 17 teams you cannot mathematically have an odd number for games for every team. 16 can play 9 but one would be left with 8. Same reason why you cannot have 1 or 3 perm rivals, someone gets left out.

So we are looking at 2 perms and 6 rotated (3x each over 7 years) or 4 perms and 4 rotated (1x each over 3 years).

 

[djorange1989]

I don’t see a scenario where the ACC goes to 9 games, due to ESPN not wanting to cough up more money and there will be plenty of teams who would likely vote against it. 4-4-4-4 is most likely but I will go to the grave saying to just freaking do 8-8 and move on, this isn’t hoops where you have a Duke/UNC rivalry that 100% HAS to be preserved annually, no one on the football side has anything close to that

 

[sutomcat]

I don’t see a scenario where the ACC goes to 9 games, due to ESPN not wanting to cough up more money and there will be plenty of teams who would likely vote against it. 4-4-4-4 is most likely but I will go to the grave saying to just freaking do 8-8 and move on, this isn’t hoops where you have a Duke/UNC rivalry that 100% HAS to be preserved annually, no one on the football side has anything close to that

Agree 9 games is unlikely. ESPN doesn't want to pay more and the ACC schools that play an SEC rival every year don't want to lose a easy FCS win.

That said, if I were the commissioner, I would be pushing for 8 x 8. It is the best way to build a true conference, develop rivals and ensure everyone plays everyone regularly.

But this means an enormous amount of extra travel. All the existing ACC schools would be guaranteed a road trip to California every year. And a trip to Dallas every other year. And the newbies would be forced to travel a lot more too.

I think Otto's suggestion of 2 rivals and playing the other 14 3 times over 7 years is a good compromise allowing the most important rivalry games to b3e played annually while still allowing every school to play every other school in the conference regularly.

I hope this one passes.

Not a fan of 4x4x4x4. Too many annual rivalries. Some will be forced. Teams play the rest of the conference too infrequently.

So they will probably choose this one.

 

[KaiserUEO]

Simple minded fools.

A mega conf of 16+ is going to play 8 conf games?? Bwaahahahahah.

Fluckin idiots.

Keep most of the conf teams games on the home network family, that’s the smart move.

Don’t allow your inventory to play on a rival, non revenue for your schools….network.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Simple minded fools.

A mega conf of 16+ is going to play 8 conf games?? Bwaahahahahah.

Fluckin idiots.

Keep most of the conf teams games on the home network family, that’s the smart move.

Don’t allow your inventory to play on a rival, non revenue for your schools….network.

SEC is playing 8. ACC cannot mathematically play 9 games due to an odd number of teams. They can play 10 or 8.

 

[KaiserUEO]

SEC is playing 8. ACC cannot mathematically play 9 games due to an odd number of teams. They can play 10 or 8.

Whatever the math is, the # of conf games will rise.

For every conf but the Ivy and the pac at least….

 

[javadoc]

Agree 9 games is unlikely. ESPN doesn't want to pay more and the ACC schools that play an SEC rival every year don't want to lose a easy FCS win.

That said, if I were the commissioner, I would be pushing for 8 x 8. It is the best way to build a true conference, develop rivals and ensure everyone plays everyone regularly.

But this means an enormous amount of extra travel. All the existing ACC schools would be guaranteed a road trip to California every year. And a trip to Dallas every other year. And the newbies would be forced to travel a lot more too.

I think Otto's suggestion of 2 rivals and playing the other 14 3 times over 7 years is a good compromise allowing the most important rivalry games to b3e played annually while still allowing every school to play every other school in the conference regularly.

I hope this one passes.

Not a fan of 4x4x4x4. Too many annual rivalries. Some will be forced. Teams play the rest of the conference too infrequently.

So they will probably choose this one.

Odd numbers of league games make it harder to schedule for a lopsided H/A schedule.

 

[sutomcat]

Odd numbers of league games make it harder to schedule for a lopsided H/A schedule.

Agree. It is a bad deal in a number of ways.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

I think if you went to 9 games you could get the votes need for 2 + 7/7. Otherwise it will likely be 4 + 4/4/4.

ACC games played 50+ times by team:

BC: SU (55)
Clemson: Wake (88), NC State (87), GA Tech (86), UNC (57), Duke (54)
Duke: UNC (102), Wake (98), GA Tech (90), NC State (83), UVA (70), Clemson (54)
FSU: Miami (65)
GA Tech: Duke (90), Clemson (86), UNC (57)
Louisville: None
Miami: FSU (65)
UNC: UVA (117), Wake (105), Duke (102), NC State (102), Clemson (57), GA Tech (57)
NC State: Wake (115), UNC (102), Clemson (87), Duke (83), UVA (56)
Pitt: SU (78)
SU: Pitt (78), BC (55)
UVA: UNC (117), VA Tech (98), Duke (70), NC State (56), Wake (50)
VA Tech: UVA (98)
Wake: NC State (115), UNC (105), Duke (98), Clemson (88), UVA (50)
Cal: Stanford (102)
SMU: None
Stanford: Cal (102)

This would require some creativity but why have everyone be equal in perm rivals? A school like Louisville really shouldn't have any. Why force yearly teams on them just because another school has 2 must play games? If the ACC protected every game played over 60 times...

BC
Yearly: None
1x in 3: UNC, NC State, Wake
1x in 3.67: Duke

Clemson
Yearly: Wake, NC State, GA Tech
1x in 3: UNC
1x in 3.67: Duke

Duke
Yearly: UNC, Wake, GA Tech, NC State, UVA
3x in 11 (every 3.67 years): everyone else

FSU
Yearly: Miami
1x in 3: UNC, NC State, Wake
1x in 3.67: Duke

GA Tech
Yearly: Duke, Clemson
1x in 3: UNC, NC State, Wake

Louisville
Yearly: None
1x in 3: UNC, NC State, Wake
1x in 3.67: Duke

Miami
Yearly: FSU
1x in 3: UNC, NC State, Wake
1x in 3.67: Duke

UNC
Yearly: UVA, Wake, Duke, NC State
1x in 3 (every 3 years): everyone else

NC State
Yearly: Wake, UNC, Clemson, Duke
1x in 3 (every 3 years): everyone else

Pitt
Yearly: SU
1x in 3: UNC, NC State, Wake
1x in 3.67: Duke

SU
Yearly: Pitt
1x in 3: UNC, NC State, Wake
1x in 3.67: Duke

UVA
Yearly: UNC, VA Tech, Duke
1x in 3: NC State, Wake

VA Tech
Yearly: UVA
1x in 3: UNC, NC State, Wake
1x in 3.67: Duke

Wake
Yearly: NC State, UNC, Duke, Clemson
1x in 3 (every 3 years): everyone else

Cal
Yearly: Stanford
1x in 3: UNC, NC State, Wake
1x in 3.67: Duke

SMU
Yearly: None
1x in 3: UNC, NC State, Wake
1x in 3.67: Duke

Stanford
Yearly: Cal
1x in 3: UNC, NC State, Wake
1x in 3.67: Duke


The rest of the games are rotated where they will be somewhere between every year and every 3 years. The more perm rivals you have and your opponent has, the closer it will be to 1x in 3. The less perms you have and the less your opponent has, the closer it will be to every year.

So for SU...

BC, Louisville, and SMU will be the closest to every year.
FSU, Miami, VA Tech, Cal, Stanford will be the next most often played games. Then GA Tech and UVA, followed by Clemson.

It is a PIA for a human to schedule but they have these computer things that could do it easily.

 

[baggerbob]

This would require some creativity but why have everyone be equal in perm rivals? A school like Louisville really shouldn't have any. Why force yearly teams on them just because another school has 2 must play games? If the ACC protected every game played over 60 times...

BC
Yearly: None
1x in 3: UNC, NC State, Wake
1x in 3.67: Duke

Clemson
Yearly: Wake, NC State, GA Tech
1x in 3: UNC
1x in 3.67: Duke

Duke
Yearly: UNC, Wake, GA Tech, NC State, UVA
3x in 11 (every 3.67 years): everyone else

FSU
Yearly: Miami
1x in 3: UNC, NC State, Wake
1x in 3.67: Duke

GA Tech
Yearly: Duke, Clemson
1x in 3: UNC, NC State, Wake

Louisville
Yearly: None
1x in 3: UNC, NC State, Wake
1x in 3.67: Duke

Miami
Yearly: FSU
1x in 3: UNC, NC State, Wake
1x in 3.67: Duke

UNC
Yearly: UVA, Wake, Duke, NC State
1x in 3 (every 3 years): everyone else

NC State
Yearly: Wake, UNC, Clemson, Duke
1x in 3 (every 3 years): everyone else

Pitt
Yearly: SU
1x in 3: UNC, NC State, Wake
1x in 3.67: Duke

SU
Yearly: Pitt
1x in 3: UNC, NC State, Wake
1x in 3.67: Duke

UVA
Yearly: UNC, VA Tech, Duke
1x in 3: NC State, Wake

VA Tech
Yearly: UVA
1x in 3: UNC, NC State, Wake
1x in 3.67: Duke

Wake
Yearly: NC State, UNC, Duke, Clemson
1x in 3 (every 3 years): everyone else

Cal
Yearly: Stanford
1x in 3: UNC, NC State, Wake
1x in 3.67: Duke

SMU
Yearly: None
1x in 3: UNC, NC State, Wake
1x in 3.67: Duke

Stanford
Yearly: Cal
1x in 3: UNC, NC State, Wake
1x in 3.67: Duke


The rest of the games are rotated where they will be somewhere between every year and every 3 years. The more perm rivals you have and your opponent has, the closer it will be to 1x in 3. The less perms you have and the less your opponent has, the closer it will be to every year.

So for SU...

BC, Louisville, and SMU will be the closest to every year.
FSU, Miami, VA Tech, Cal, Stanford will be the next most often played games. Then GA Tech and UVA, followed by Clemson.

It is a PIA for a human to schedule but they have these computer things that could do it easily.

How about if for the next 13 years we skip playing FSU, they can play more games with Miami, Clemson, and North Carolina, high profile games.