NFL Thread - 2020

[kirbivore]

Gettleman would draft a hog molly.

and unvalue that #1 pick in a trade so badly it would make Bill O'Brien blush.

 

[kirbivore]

Jets will beat New England at home or Miami at home in the coming weeks.

I'll bet you anything you want that's not happening. I'll even bet the Pats and Fins cover in those games vs. NYJ.

 

[Alsacs]

So the Jets' offense. Your Lou Holtz schtick is getting stale.

It’s not shtick the Patriots starting WRs are Jacobi Myers and Demetri Byrd.
Their starting TE is Ryan Izzo.
The Patriots have a solid RB core but you can’t run the ball constantly when the opponent has 8 in the box.
The Jets and Patriots probably have the two worst skill position rosters in the NFL.

 

[Briancuse]

So the Jets' offense. Your Lou Holtz schtick is getting stale.

Alsacs is trying out the reverse jynx, but when you play the jets you don't need it, the jynx has been there since 1969.

 

[kirbivore]

Whatever. Last time I'm saying this. When your complaining about watching Trevor Lawrence light it up with the cross town Jets for the next decade plus. I'm going to say I told u so. We could have prevented it by just tanking.

doesn't matter if the giants traded away any piece that other teams want like last year's Dolphins, they are not finishing below the Jets. Even if the Giants did that there's no guarantee of worst record, because while front offices may tank whatever players and coaches are out there won't.

 

[Alsacs]

Alsacs is trying out the reverse jynx, but when you play the jets you don't need it, the jynx has been there since 1969.

It’s not a reverse jinx.
The Patriots are better than the Jets that isn’t a question but the Patriots aren’t good and aren’t a lock to beat the Jets.
The Patriots don’t have a passing game.

If the Pats had Gallup, Lamb and Cooper as their top 3 WRs they are a playoff contender. They have no weapons for the passing game because Harry sucks and Edelman is hurt.
I am a realist.

 

[Briancuse]

It’s not a reverse jinx.
The Patriots are better than the Jets that isn’t a question but the Patriots aren’t good and aren’t a lock to beat the Jets.
The Patriots don’t have a passing game.

If the Pats had Gallup, Lamb and Cooper as their top 3 WRs they are a playoff contender. They have no weapons for the passing game because Harry sucks and Edelman is hurt.
I am a realist.

Brett Rypien put up up 37 points on the Jets.

 

[CuseRunner]

doesn't matter if the giants traded away any piece that other teams want like last year's Dolphins, they are not finishing below the Jets. Even if the Giants did that there's no guarantee of worst record, because while front offices may tank whatever players and coaches are out there won't.

Hmm interesting so your saying the 76ers players and coaches didnt tank during the trust process years ? Answer me this what did winning last year against washington gain us ? I'll wait. We lost a generational pass rusher in Chase Young.

 

[Ryand877]

Looks like Will Fuller about to be traded.

 

[Alsacs]

Brett Rypien put up up 37 points on the Jets.

Noah Fant, Jerry Jeudy, Hamler from Penn State are weapons.

Jeudy Moss’d one of the Jets DBs.
Patriots don’t have any passing game weapons.
Their best WR is Jacobi Myers.
Myers wouldn’t be top 4 WRs on most playoff teams.

 

[Trueblue25]

Pats trade for Isaiah Ford

 

[Alsacs]

Pats trade for Isaiah Ford

He is their best WR which is sad.
They probably overpaid for him since it’s an intra-division trade.

 

[Trueblue25]

He is their best WR which is sad.
They probably overpaid for him since it’s an intra-division trade.

It is sad. But let me say, he has upside. I loved that pick from Tech.

 

[Shawn91111]

Hmm interesting so your saying the 76ers players and coaches didnt tank during the trust process years ? Answer me this what did winning last year against washington gain us ? I'll wait. We lost a generational pass rusher in Chase Young.

How many "generational" pass rushers are there, every draft has one basically?

 

[kirbivore]

Hmm interesting so your saying the 76ers players and coaches didnt tank during the trust process years ? Answer me this what did winning last year against washington gain us ? I'll wait. We lost a generational pass rusher in Chase Young.

for the 76'ers management put young players out there and let them play, warts and all. The players, like Jerami Grant, were trying but not good enough to win. Great spot for him to get minutes with no pressure. Giants didn't gain anything but players will never tank. They don't know if they'll be there next year to reap the benefits of the "generational" pass rusher and will never put bad tape out there.

 

[jordville]

Interesting development shared by Peter King on Twitter last night...
At the virtual NFL meeting Tues, owners are likely to vote on a measure to address the paucity of non-interim minority coaches (currently 4) and GMs (2). New proposal would reward a team for developing a minority head coach or GM, but would not reward a team that hires one. Per the resolution, the team losing the coach or GM would get third-round Compensatory Picks in next 2 drafts, if the coach or GM had been with the original team for at least 2 years.

For example: Texans hire KC offensive coordinator Eric Bieniemy, who is Black, as head coach in early ‘21. KC would get third-round Compensatory Picks in next 2 drafts. Compensatory Picks would come at end of third round. So, in the KC case, losing Bieniemy would net them somewhere around the 100th pick in next two drafts.

Only problem with the rule, as I see it, is it adds no motivation for the hiring team to pick a Black coach. I guess it could motivate teams to put minority assistants/scouts in big positions, to lure teams to look at them. We'll see. Measure has a good chance to pass.

 

[Alsacs]

Interesting development shared by Peter King on Twitter last night...
At the virtual NFL meeting Tues, owners are likely to vote on a measure to address the paucity of non-interim minority coaches (currently 4) and GMs (2). New proposal would reward a team for developing a minority head coach or GM, but would not reward a team that hires one. Per the resolution, the team losing the coach or GM would get third-round Compensatory Picks in next 2 drafts, if the coach or GM had been with the original team for at least 2 years.

For example: Texans hire KC offensive coordinator Eric Bieniemy, who is Black, as head coach in early ‘21. KC would get third-round Compensatory Picks in next 2 drafts. Compensatory Picks would come at end of third round. So, in the KC case, losing Bieniemy would net them somewhere around the 100th pick in next two drafts.

Only problem with the rule, as I see it, is it adds no motivation for the hiring team to pick a Black coach. I guess it could motivate teams to put minority assistants/scouts in big positions, to lure teams to look at them. We'll see. Measure has a good chance to pass.

This is a good compromise.
Reward the teams to put minorities into positions of power to get hired.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Rather than race/gender based anything, I would first like to see monopolized industries like the NFL require teams to allow a league Representative to be in all of the interviews and require the teams to give written reports on why people were or were not hired.
If the league finds no objective or quantifiable reason that a superior minority/female candidate was not hired, TAKE AWAY picks or maybe even roster spots (union issues aside for now, but you could give the extra spot to the non-hired coach's team.)
Let's find out if there are any quantifiable reasons more objecively qualified minorities are not hired, before we allow things to be altered solely based on race/gender.

 

[jordville]

This is a good compromise.
Reward the teams to put minorities into positions of power to get hired.

Agreed. Just doesn't incentivize teams from making those hires. Using EB as an example, will teams look at the Chiefs who may win back-to-back Super Bowls want to give them two 3rd round picks by hiring EB? Maybe an NFC team would be more likely. Either way, this compromise is better than where they have been.

 

[Alsacs]

Jamal Adams is very overrrated.
Not worth 2 first round picks.
Bills abused him in pass coverage there.
The guy is a LB playing safety.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Agreed. Just doesn't incentivize teams from making those hires. Using EB as an example, will teams look at the Chiefs who may win back-to-back Super Bowls want to give them two 3rd round picks by hiring EB? Maybe an NFC team would be more likely. Either way, this compromise is better than where they have been.

I didn't think there was any compensation when hiring up.

 

[Alsacs]

Jamal Adams is trash.

 

[samspann1]

Jamal Adams is very overrrated.
Not worth 2 first round picks.
Bills abused him in pass coverage there.
The guy is a LB playing safety.

His bark is much bigger than his bite. Talked a whole lot of trash about Allen when he played for the Jets.

And yes, he's essentially a small, blitzing LBer who's a massive liability in pass coverage

 

[OrangeDW]

His bark is much bigger than his bite. Talked a whole lot of trash about Allen when he played for the Jets.

And yes, he's essentially a small, blitzing LBer who's a massive liability in pass coverage

The Patrick Beverly of the NFL. Overly pressed one dimensional little role player.

 

[samspann1]

The Patrick Beverly of the NFL. Overly pressed one dimensional little role player.

That’s a great comparison