NIL struggles

[Cusefan0307]

Not true, I consider Adam a friend. I would love if he would just donate to the collective. But, he wants to do differently with his money. His money is considerable, likely in the multiple millions per year (go ahead and laugh at my post morons). But, he is not an alum, he is a fan. He wants to have go back to having fun and attention from the experience (my words, not his). I get it. For us fans wanting Syracuse basketball to get back to where we are used to it being, his millions matter, and we want this to get worked out.

What is the end game? They let him back and then what? Does he actually come back. I have to admit I am skeptical he does. I feel like he’s using this situation to win a PR war. FWIW I used to support him until this debacle as he’s done a lot for CNY, but he’s lost me here.

Say we get in a bidding war with UNC for a point guard. We offer 2 million, but UNC offers 2.25? Does he help close the deal or is he only paying for players himself? How does having two pots of money help us? How do you know he doesn’t scare other donors away that don’t want to put up with the way he does business?

 

[orangefog]

None of that explains how it got to this point. Lost in the drivel

A few on this board know, and they are not at liberty to share, yet. And, it doesn't matter. The resolution is what matters. I hope we can get to a point where we can benefit from ALL of our resources.

 

[Cusefan0307]

None of that explains how it got to this point. Lost in the drivel

It’s obvious that it got to this point because he wanted to do it his own way instead of buying into a joint effort. That’s his pregotive, but I don’t know of any school that is letting a donor run his own NIL scheme. Even Repole is donating to a collective at St. John’s.

 

[orangefog]

What is the end game? They let him back and then what? Does he actually come back. I have to admit I am skeptical he does. I feel like he’s using this situation to win a PR war. By the way I used to support him until this debacle as he’s done a lot for CNY, but he’s lost me here.

Say we get in a bidding war with UNC for a point guard. We offer 2 million, but UNC offers 2.25. Does he help close the deal or is he only paying for players himself? How does having two pots of money help us. How do you know he doesn’t scare other donors away that don’t want to put up with the way he does business?

You could be right, but I don't think so. I think he would love to resume bringing celebrities to games and for Adam being the guy that lands the TOP target on our board. The collective would take care of everything else. He likes to make a splash. It's his style. If that is what it takes, so long as he doesn't break rules, I am good with it. But, it isn't up to me.

 

[SUfanNC]

It’s obvious that it got to this point because he wanted to do it his own way instead of buying into a joint effort. That’s his pregotive, but I don’t know of any school that is letting a donor run his own NIL scheme. Even Repole is donating to a collective at St. John’s.

It doesn’t explain why he was asked to step away? There has to be a reason. Doing it his own way maybe a few years ago might have been not how SU was comfy with then but it’s different now. I don’t get where Lallys fall into it. Shouldn’t even be attached to this but some how are. Nothing is obvious. I don’t pretend to know but it is baffling

 

[Cuseregular]

I think the ET and Devo podcast were discussing ways to improve NIL It’s makes sense they are in off season but AW came up and stirred up old stuff. Next show they had they talked about a woman who jumped in there messages of the show saying all sorts of things It ended up being Lally. I just don’t understand her getting in the messages. From what they said it seemed a bit abrasive. Here we are

It sounds like it was a drunk four in the morning angry and probably jealous motivated text she sent to AW that started the whole entire thing

 

[IthacaMatt]

They are above all this?

The Lally's have given lots of actual money to build things for the football program.
I know Weitsman helped a handful of kids a few years ago. Why is he is he even talking about them?

 

[IthacaMatt]

It’s obvious that it got to this point because he wanted to do it his own way instead of buying into a joint effort. That’s his pregotive, but I don’t know of any school that is letting a donor run his own NIL scheme. Even Repole is donating to a collective at St. John’s.

If he wants to do things "his own way", the only thing that makes sense in all of this is the University thought he was going to get them in recruiting trouble.

 

[Cuseregular]

One family has donated probably 50 million to SU sports and it’s not the guy you’re sticking up for in this thread who maybe has been good for a million total.

Is this legit and true?! 50 million?! Thought it was much much less. If true then it does at least now make more sense to me why the admin will take care of them and push the other guy out for whatever the reasons are they don’t like AW.

Still sad and stupid, especially not to cultivate any big money people are willing to throw at them in this current wild wild West, NIL/portal environment.

 

[Cuseregular]

If he wants to do things "his own way", the only thing that makes sense in all of this is the University thought he was going to get them in recruiting trouble.

He cleared it 100% ahead of time with universities compliance department everything he did as discussed in the podcast and not denied by the university

 

[Cuseregular]

The Lally's have given lots of actual money to build things for the football program.
I know Weitsman helped a handful of kids a few years ago. Why is he is he even talking about them?

You have to listen to the podcast, apparently the wife of lally initiated it with him and not in a good way.

 

[oldpinepoint]

Is this legit and true?! 50 million?! Thought it was much much less. If true then it does at least now make more sense to me why the admin will take care of them and push the other guy out for whatever the reasons are they don’t like AW.

Still sad and stupid, especially not to cultivate any big money people are willing to throw at them in this current wild wild West, NIL/portal environment.

Well 25 million for the lally center and they are major football NIL donors. Add up the donations over the years and I would bet it’s close that.

 

[Cuseregular]

Well 25 million for the lally center and they are major football NIL donors. Add up the donations over the years and I would bet it’s close that.

Wowsa, God Bless em.

 

[oldpinepoint]

Wowsa, God Bless em.

Agreed

 

[sdhall01]

Is it proven that Weistman has ever actually donated anything? He brought--like--random celebrities to games, but that doesn't mean he's a real booster. I remember he said he'd pay $1m for a 5 star recruit, but he never actually did that. I'm dubious, and the Lallys are truly the best donors we have.

Put differently, I'm not sure 10 donors like Weitsman are worth 1 donor like the Lallys. I'm not sure 100 donors like Weitsman are worth 1 donor like the Lallys.

 

[SUfanNC]

Well 25 million for the lally center and they are major football NIL donors. Add up the donations over the years and I would bet it’s close that.

Everyone keeps throwing dollars around. Why are they even attached to the AW saga?
Very generous and needed but both were doing some amount of donating that is needed/wanted.

 

[SUfanNC]

Is it proven that Weistman has ever actually donated anything? He brought--like--random celebrities to games, but that doesn't mean he's a real booster. I remember he said he'd pay $1m for a 5 star recruit, but he never actually did that. I'm dubious, and the Lallys are truly the best donors we have.

Put differently, I'm not sure 10 donors like Weitsman are worth 1 donor like the Lallys. I'm not sure 100 donors like Weitsman are worth 1 donor like the Lallys.

It shouldn’t be either or! The value shouldn’t have Bering on whether one stays or goes. Seems childish if that is what has happened.

 

[SUfanNC]

The Lally's have given lots of actual money to build things for the football program.
I know Weitsman helped a handful of kids a few years ago. Why is he is he even talking about them?

So because the donated a ridiculous amount of money they are clear of any part they may play in this?

 

[SUfanNC]

If he wants to do things "his own way", the only thing that makes sense in all of this is the University thought he was going to get them in recruiting trouble.

I definitely think this was a real concern for SU a few years ago. I don’t think it’s as big now days but it doesn’t explain the actual issue now.

 

[Domedog84]

People out here bootlicking AW and didn’t even know the Lally’s gave all this money. This thread has everything. AW gets people doing his dirty work, control the narrative.

 

[SUfanNC]

People out here bootlicking AW and didn’t even know the Lally’s gave all this money. This thread has everything. AW gets people doing his dirty work, control the narrative.

These are the takes that I truly don’t get. I don’t have a tie to either. If the the names were reversed in the story I would feel the same way. The names are irrelevant to me. I am interested in understanding how this becomes an issue when every dollar matters. It’s not either or.

 

[Domedog84]

These are the takes that I truly don’t get. I don’t have a tie to either. If the the names were reversed in the story I would feel the same way. The names are irrelevant to me. I am interested in understanding how this becomes an issue when every dollar matters. It’s not either or.

I don’t know what to tell you man. It has been said in here many times at this point that those in the know are not at liberty to share, and yet you keep asking the same questions to those who obviously can’t provide the answers you seek.

The issue I have is how quick some are to want to believe Adam’s side of the story and trash the university and actual mega donors. Adam is controlling the narrative. His whole persona is carefully curated and intentionally presented. It’s obviously working on members of our fanbase to his delight. It makes it easier with his two new mouthpieces in the media in Etan and Devo.

 

[hoopsupstate]

I don’t know what to tell you man. It has been said in here many times at this point that those in the know are not at liberty to share, and yet you keep asking the same questions to those who obviously can’t provide the answers you seek.

The issue I have is how quick some are to want to believe Adam’s side of the story and trash the university and actual mega donors. Adam is controlling the narrative. His whole persona is carefully curated and intentionally presented. It’s obviously working on members of our fanbase to his delight. It makes it easier with his two new mouthpieces in the media in Etan and Devo.

Etan and Devo aren’t smart enough to know they’re being played!

 

[SUfanNC]

I don’t know what to tell you man. It has been said in here many times at this point that those in the know are not at liberty to share, and yet you keep asking the same questions to those who obviously can’t provide the answers you seek.

The issue I have is how quick some are to want to believe Adam’s side of the story and trash the university and actual mega donors. Adam is controlling the narrative. His whole persona is carefully curated and intentionally presented. It’s obviously working on members of our fanbase to his delight. It makes it easier with his two new mouthpieces in the media in Etan and Devo.

So you know the story? The whole story?


Where is anyone trashing donors?

 

[Cusefan0307]

So you know the story? The whole story?


Where is anyone trashing donors?

There’s people going after the Lally’s online.

You are claiming what Lally’s wife is doing is weird.

I happen to think everything AW and Etan are doing is even weirder. It’s counterproductive to SU sports that they claim to care about. If they cared about it that much they would shut the fluck up.