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No H-Back in this weeks Depth Chart.

With all this talk of systems I have to say I really liked the modified K gun that marrone and hackett ran in 2012. Simple for our players, looked complicated to the D. We ran the same 20 plays out of 8 diffferent sets with no huddle speed to keep the defense off balance.
 
Ottoble said:
With all this talk of systems I have to say I really liked the modified K gun that marrone and hackett ran in 2012. Simple for our players, looked complicated to the D. We ran the same 20 plays out of 8 diffferent sets with no huddle speed to keep the defense off balance.
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It was a lot better than the garbage we run now. I don't get offenses that never have the qb under center.
 
AZOrange said:
It was a lot better than the garbage we run now. I don't get offenses that never have the qb under center.
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Especially concerning on the one yard line going in and going out.
 
AZOrange said:
We're not? Dang it! Let's go slow here. When dealing with players of similar caliber I think prostyle offenses are superior. So when we line up against the marylands of the world I think we'd be able to field a superior product. Of the teams all you people blather about who we should try to emulate I would go with Stanford. They are better against teams they are par talent with and they even hang with superior talented teams. Try to become Stanford.
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Stanford's offense is awful. 96th in ypg
 
Millhouse said:
Stanford's offense is awful. 96th in ypg
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Ugh...as a team Stanford is a program we should look at being. They're efficient, they score, they grind it out. Ypg is one (highly overrated) stat. I bet cuse and nd are about even in ypg. One is awful, one is not.
 
AZOrange said:
Ugh...as a team Stanford is a program we should look at being. They're efficient, they score, they grind it out. Ypg is one (highly overrated) stat. I bet cuse and nd are about even in ypg. One is awful, one is not.
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stanford sucks at scoring too
 
Millhouse said:
stanford sucks at scoring too
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Look over the last few years. How many games have they won (it's really the only stat that matters). Stanford was right there last week with nd at nd (and nd has far superior talent). They compete at the top of the PAC nearly every year...
 
AZOrange said:
Look over the last few years. How many games have they won (it's really the only stat that matters). Stanford was right there last week with nd at nd (and nd has far superior talent). They compete at the top of the PAC nearly every year...
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any college offense will work with luck.

post luck they've won with defense. top 25 defense every year.
 
Millhouse said:
any college offense will work with luck. post luck they've won with defense. top 25 defense every year.
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aye...part of the reason their d is good is because their offense is controlled, doesn't turn it over, churns the clock. Their individual guys are ok, but their schemes are great IMO. They were an on again off again doormat for years. 4 bcs in a row in maybe the second best conf in the NCAA.
 
Millhouse said:
fullbacks are second to the elusive playmaker unicorn as the solution to every bad teams problems

fullbacks are a great way to pull another defender in the box. then we gotta hope that more people smashing into each other in the box is going to spring big runs. why not just get that defender the hell out of the way?

we don't have to give up on the bubble screen just because mcdonald didn't get it.
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I just don't think we have the personnel to run the bubble screen successfully. And it's shown.
 
Millhouse said:
any college offense will work with luck.

post luck they've won with defense. top 25 defense every year.
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Offense and defense are somewhat negatively correlated though. If you are Oregon and run a hurry up/no huddle offense and pass all the time you aren't going to chew up any clock and you will leave your defense on the field a whole lot -- and sometimes in bad spots due to extra turnovers -- which leads to pass happy teams generally having poor defenses. Don't get me wrong Stanford has a great defense, but it is very much helped by the fact that their offense grinds it out and eats clock. It's hard to score points against a team when their offense is always on the field.
 
statsgrad said:
Offense and defense are somewhat negatively correlated though. If you are Oregon and run a hurry up/no huddle offense and pass all the time you aren't going to chew up any clock and you will leave your defense on the field a whole lot -- and sometimes in bad spots due to extra turnovers -- which leads to pass happy teams generally having poor defenses. Don't get me wrong Stanford has a great defense, but it is very much helped by the fact that their offense grinds it out and eats clock. It's hard to score points against a team when their offense is always on the field.
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Stanford is 45th in TOP fwiw
 
Stanford's offense was great with Andrew Luck and 3-4 NFL lineman, two NFL tight ends, who knew? Also with Pep Hamilton as their OC who is now the OC at Indy.
 
Chip said:
Does anyone even play fullback anymore? Do people recruit them? Ours are walk-ons, or at least former walk-ons, right?

Maybe they're trying to fool FSU into thinking we're lining up I-formation. Good luck prepping for that Jimbo.
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Georgia and Stanford definitely use fullbacks... GT fullbacked us to death last year to the tune of 75 yards and 3 TDs (I know, the shock might have been burned from your memory due to the trauma)... I'm sure there are more.
 
Cuse'91 said:
I wouldn't be surprised if FSU spends half this week game planning for Notre Dame...
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I hope they do. That will only help SU...

I'm not saying SU will win, but that is the kind of thing (looking ahead) that results in upsets.
 
IthacaBarrel said:
Stanford's offense was great with Andrew Luck and 3-4 NFL lineman, two NFL tight ends, who knew? Also with Pep Hamilton as their OC who is now the OC at Indy.
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no one's actually looking at college football objectively and saying that's who we should be. they're very unique and very overrated by people who just don't like the way it looks to have all these smaller guys out there running around all fast and stuff. with 120 schools, anyone can find a team that confirms their bias
 
Millhouse said:
no one's actually looking at college football objectively and saying that's who we should be. they're very unique and very overrated by people who just don't like the way it looks to have all these smaller guys out there running around all fast and stuff. with 120 schools, anyone can find a team that confirms their bias
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Uh we don't have smaller guys out there running around all fast and stuff...
 
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