Not breaking news, but the ACC is terrible

[Cusefan0307]

We likely won’t be as bad as some expected when we said we may not win a game in the league. We definitely aren’t as bad as Miam and BC. We probably aren’t as bad as UVA and Virginia Tech. We probably will finish around .500. There’s 10 teams 3-4 or worse in the conference. There’s 9 teams 9-9 or worse. We are near the top of that list.

Clemson will be tough, but after that 9 out of our last 12 games are with teams in that group not playing good basketball. At this point a winning record in league wouldn’t surprise me. It would be full of empty wins

 

[orangenauburn]

We likely won’t be as bad as some expected when we said we may not win a game in the league. We definitely aren’t as bad as Miam and BC. We probably aren’t as bad as UVA and Virginia Tech. We probably will finish around .500. There’s 10 teams 3-4 or worse in the conference. There’s 9 teams 9-9 or worse. We are near the top of that list.

Clemson will be tough, but after that 9 out of our last 12 games are with teams in that group is not playing good basketball. At this point a winning record in league wouldn’t surprise me. It would be full of empty wins

I looked at the schedule last night and somehow talked myself into 8 more wins.

 

[LAorange44]

We are squarely off the ACC bubble with Miami, Cal/UVA, and BC likely being left out. Nonetheless, we gotta get over that Quad II / III hump. Bart Torvik does a good job visualizing that data if you select Quadrant View in the Trend Stat menu: T-Page for Syracuse - Customizable College Basketball Tempo Free Stats - T-Rank For now, we’re just loading up on cupcakes and have nothing of substance to our record. We’re still going to be double digit dogs in about 5 games despite the conference sucking. We’re also objectively playing better than we were a month ago so that’s something

 

[Eric15]

We likely won’t be as bad as some expected when we said we may not win a game in the league. We definitely aren’t as bad as Miam and BC. We probably aren’t as bad as UVA and Virginia Tech. We probably will finish around .500. There’s 10 teams 3-4 or worse in the conference. There’s 9 teams 9-9 or worse. We are near the top of that list.

Clemson will be tough, but after that 9 out of our last 12 games are with teams in that group not playing good basketball. At this point a winning record in league wouldn’t surprise me. It would be full of empty wins

SMU scoring 117 points against Miami in regulation yesterday is just bonkers in a 40 minute college game.

 

[Cusefan0307]

We are squarely off the ACC bubble with Miami, Cal/UVA, and BC likely being left out. Nonetheless, we gotta get over that Quad II / III hump. Bart Torvik does a good job visualizing that data if you select Quadrant View in the Trend Stat menu: T-Page for Syracuse - Customizable College Basketball Tempo Free Stats - T-Rank For now, we’re just loading up on cupcakes and have nothing of substance to our record. We’re still going to be double digit dogs in about 5 games despite the conference sucking. We’re also objectively playing better than we were a month ago so that’s something

We aren’t beating Duke and likely won’t win Tuesday. We probably won’t win at Pitt, but I think we have a chance because they are no great shakes either. UNC at the dome may be our best chance for a decent win, but they aren’t exactly very good either. We could finish 12-8 in the league with no good wins.

 

[Chip]

SMU scoring 117 points against Miami in regulation yesterday is just bonkers in a 40 minute college game.

And no player had 20 points.

 

[Cusefan0307]

SMU scoring 117 points against Miami in regulation yesterday is just bonkers in a 40 minute college game.

I wonder what the problem Is. Miami has good NIL.

 

[MikeSU02]

We are squarely off the ACC bubble with Miami, Cal/UVA, and BC likely being left out. Nonetheless, we gotta get over that Quad II / III hump. Bart Torvik does a good job visualizing that data if you select Quadrant View in the Trend Stat menu: T-Page for Syracuse - Customizable College Basketball Tempo Free Stats - T-Rank For now, we’re just loading up on cupcakes and have nothing of substance to our record. We’re still going to be double digit dogs in about 5 games despite the conference sucking. We’re also objectively playing better than we were a month ago so that’s something

Yep.

Yesterday was our best win of the season, but it’s still not a good win.

No quad 1 or 2 wins.

Take the wins where you can get them, but more than likely this is our story.

Play with pride. See if we can snag an upset somewhere. Try to avoid a dumb loss.

Is what it is. Still the worst Cuse team since I’ve been watching them, but try to finish stronger than you started.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Yep.

Yesterday was our best win of the season, but it’s still not a good win.

No quad 1 or 2 wins.

Take the wins where you can get them, but more than likely this is our story.

Play with pride. See if we can snag an upset somewhere. Try to avoid a dumb loss.

Is what it is. Still the worst Cuse team since I’ve been watching them, but try to finish stronger than you started.

By far the worst conference we’ve been in. Our ceiling is the least terrible of the terrible.

 

[JaySU22]

I can’t believe Miami, they’re just 2-3 years removed from an Elite 8 and a Final Four and all of the sudden they’re dreadful like they were when they first joined the Big East way back when

 

[Scooch]

I can’t believe Miami, they’re just 2-3 years removed from an Elite 8 and a Final Four and all of the sudden they’re dreadful like they were when they first joined the Big East way back when

Constantin Popa isn't walking through that door.

 

[Scooch]

This conference has ONE job: be great at men's basketball. And they've failed miserably.

Last year they had 2 teams ranked when the regular season ended. Year before that: 3 (and none higher than 13). Year before that? Two.

And this season will likely be one.

EIGHTEEN teams and one of them ranked.

 

[Sherman20]

We likely won’t be as bad as some expected when we said we may not win a game in the league. We definitely aren’t as bad as Miam and BC. We probably aren’t as bad as UVA and Virginia Tech. We probably will finish around .500. There’s 10 teams 3-4 or worse in the conference. There’s 9 teams 9-9 or worse. We are near the top of that list.

Clemson will be tough, but after that 9 out of our last 12 games are with teams in that group not playing good basketball. At this point a winning record in league wouldn’t surprise me. It would be full of empty wins

If they continue to make improvements and are able to get Donnie back, I think there’s a possibility to go 11-9 in the ACC. A lot would have to go right for that to happen and more improvements made. It probably won’t happen but it could. Wins over Pitt (home), Cal (away), BC (home), Miami (away), UNC (home), NC State (home), Va Tech (away), Virginia (home).

Losses to Clemson (away), Stanford (away),
Duke (home), Pitt (away), SMU (away).

 

[Cusefan0307]

If they continue to make improvements and are able to get Donnie back, I think there’s a possibility to go 11-9 in the ACC. A lot would have to go right for that to happen and more improvements made. It probably won’t happen but it could. Wins over Pitt (home), Cal (away), BC (home), Miami (away), UNC (home), NC State (home), Va Tech (away), Virginia (home).

Losses to Clemson (away), Stanford (away),
Duke (home), Pitt (away), SMU (away).

I don’t expect Freeman back. He’s likely going to need surgery on his foot per Matt Park.

 

[MSOrange]

This conference has ONE job: be great at men's basketball. And they've failed miserably.

Last year they had 2 teams ranked when the regular season ended. Year before that: 3 (and none higher than 13). Year before that? Two.

And this season will likely be one.

EIGHTEEN teams and one of them ranked.

Much like JB's latter years, some have used the few teams who have done well in the NCAA to mask how bad the conference has been.

 

[JaySU22]

Much like JB's latter years, some have used the few teams who have done well in the NCAA to mask how bad the conference has been.

Yep. The commish better have the come to Jesus moment with all the programs. This is an insane level of underachievement by about 80 percent of the teams in this league.

 

[CnyTarheel]

I Hate Pitt. But, they are not as bad as some have said on here. They've lost close games in 3 out of their 4 losses and took Louisville to ot the only team that boat raced them was Duke. IMO they are a better " team" then syracuse, there's no complaining at each other hand gestures at teammates and all are engaged and listening to Capel during timeouts.

 

[CnyTarheel]

If they continue to make improvements and are able to get Donnie back, I think there’s a possibility to go 11-9 in the ACC. A lot would have to go right for that to happen and more improvements made. It probably won’t happen but it could. Wins over Pitt (home), Cal (away), BC (home), Miami (away), UNC (home), NC State (home), Va Tech (away), Virginia (home).

Losses to Clemson (away), Stanford (away),
Duke (home), Pitt (away), SMU (away).

Definitely a shot if they take how they played the last 25 minutes of the game yesterday.. only thing different I'd put is at California (loss) and home Pitt loss..

 

[phil77]

ACC Problems -

1 - Coaching - Look at when the ACC was king they had the best coaches in the game. Everyone wanted to coach in the ACC. It was the IT thing to do. Now all those legends retired and the people who have taken their place have failed or those legends have held on too long and destroyed their program.

2 - $$$$ - For whatever reason the ACC is behind in raising money for basketball. It just seems the leadership was not ready for the shift and was blindsided by the entire NIL thing.

3- Style of play - Seems a lot of programs have not adapted to modern basketball. Watching other teams and other leagues it is a different game than most teams play in the ACC. That is probably why the ACC has had some tournament success.

4- Syracuse - Make no mistake we are part of the problem. We and other programs were brought in because we were a superpower and counted on to continue that but we haven't. It isn't just us it is other programs as well.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

ACC Problems -

1 - Coaching - Look at when the ACC was king they had the best coaches in the game. Everyone wanted to coach in the ACC. It was the IT thing to do. Now all those legends retired and the people who have taken their place have failed or those legends have held on too long and destroyed their program.

 

[Knicks411]

SMU scoring 117 points against Miami in regulation yesterday is just bonkers in a 40 minute college game.

I score that score on the bottom line on ESPN yesterday and legit had to rewind the tv to make sure I saw it correctly.

We likely won’t be as bad as some expected when we said we may not win a game in the league. We definitely aren’t as bad as Miam and BC. We probably aren’t as bad as UVA and Virginia Tech. We probably will finish around .500. There’s 10 teams 3-4 or worse in the conference. There’s 9 teams 9-9 or worse. We are near the top of that list.

Clemson will be tough, but after that 9 out of our last 12 games are with teams in that group not playing good basketball. At this point a winning record in league wouldn’t surprise me. It would be full of empty wins

Ken Pom is projecting 7-13 (technically 7.4-12.6), with 3 essentially toss up games.

The ACC has one team in the KP top 25. 1! Granted they do have 26, 29, 32, and 33, so a little selective endpoints. It's pretty disgraceful. We're 125th and we are 13th in an 18 team conference! I went back to our last year in the BE, 2013; there were only 2 out of 15 teams ranked 125 or worse. Eyeballing the 5 years or so prior to that, you get maybe 2/3 teams worse than 125, we have 6 if you count us right at 125!