i'm gonna walk back one piece of what i said last night re: simultaneous penalties (admittedly was a little tipsy). not quoting anybody as it came up in explanation multiple ways on the cluster of a situation to multiple people.
1st - simultaneous penalties become locked in when opposing teams have penalties from 1st flag to whistle to restart(which includes dead ball). they also can occur as a result of 2 from same team, tho i'm not sure if that was the case here, i don't think it was.
what locked everything in (to the lowest common denominator, 30 sec push) was kavanaugh's penalty. so every penalty was locked in for 30 just from that. and ie: the crosscheck was locked for 30, and releasable after that. i won't elaborate on dead ball penalties being locked longer or always on their own (this was a 2 live ball and 2 dead ball situation) unless someone asks.
so by kav getting his penalty, that locked everything in for 30.
the push in a loose ball situation as penalty was correct. to wit: play on, flag down. offending team knows whistle kills the play, including as they get a gb. prior to several years ago, loose ball happens, they could simply push/hold their way to getting a ground ball and thus kill the play. offended team on 1st penalty would otherwise be disadvantaged to have a chance to continue the play on. so now, it's a penalty.
as both goals happened inside 30 seconds, nothing released until time was up or a goal was scored after 30 seconds.
to poster for cuse sake: i believe the simultaneous/both teams/locked in is several years older than the loose ball/flag down technical is now time serving. 5-7 years?
tl;dr: the officials still had it correct.
1st - simultaneous penalties become locked in when opposing teams have penalties from 1st flag to whistle to restart(which includes dead ball). they also can occur as a result of 2 from same team, tho i'm not sure if that was the case here, i don't think it was.
what locked everything in (to the lowest common denominator, 30 sec push) was kavanaugh's penalty. so every penalty was locked in for 30 just from that. and ie: the crosscheck was locked for 30, and releasable after that. i won't elaborate on dead ball penalties being locked longer or always on their own (this was a 2 live ball and 2 dead ball situation) unless someone asks.
so by kav getting his penalty, that locked everything in for 30.
the push in a loose ball situation as penalty was correct. to wit: play on, flag down. offending team knows whistle kills the play, including as they get a gb. prior to several years ago, loose ball happens, they could simply push/hold their way to getting a ground ball and thus kill the play. offended team on 1st penalty would otherwise be disadvantaged to have a chance to continue the play on. so now, it's a penalty.
as both goals happened inside 30 seconds, nothing released until time was up or a goal was scored after 30 seconds.
to poster for cuse sake: i believe the simultaneous/both teams/locked in is several years older than the loose ball/flag down technical is now time serving. 5-7 years?
tl;dr: the officials still had it correct.
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