One Orange Alliance

[orangecuse]

Well said.

College sports is now pro sports, except they want their fans to subsidize expenses directly. It's lunacy.

I'm a Patriots fan. I buy tickets, pay for parking and concessions, buy merchandise, subscribe to a litany of video services... and Bob Kraft makes money from of all of that.

Kraft Sports Group sells sponsorships for the Pats to area businesses and licenses the Patriots mark for commercial purposes. Bob Kraft makes money from that.

Kraft owns Gillette Stadium and holds concerts and other sporting events there. Bob Kraft makes money from that.

Kraft developed Patriot Place, a mixed use facility that surrounds Gillette Stadium, where he collects rent from dozens of retailers, restaurants and hotels. Bob Kraft makes money from that.

Kraft uses that revenue to pay his front office staff, coaches and players.

What Bob Kraft doesn't do is email me and ask for a $10,000 donation so he can pay Drake Maye.

Yet that's precisely what colleges expect of fans now. It's preposterous.

Amen!

I'll also add that the majority of the population (not to mention in a town that's generally blue collar such as Syracuse) realize just how precisely "preposterous" it indeed is. They simply can see the utter foolishness of directly donating/contributing to these already extremely fortunate and privileged 'young adults' and won't/refuse to be a part of that. The six figures (and them some in instances) in addition to the free ride, etc. and all that that already provides, is just flat out lunacy.

 

[orangeman410]

Can’t they just partner with Wegmans and offer a round up to the nearest dollar at checkout and that amount goes to NIL? A ton of businesses are doing this for the tax write off, not sure NIL qualifies but can you imagine the amount they could raise this way?

 

[shandeezy7]

Can’t they just partner with Wegmans and offer a round up to the nearest dollar at checkout and that amount goes to NIL? A ton of businesses are doing this for the tax write off, not sure NIL qualifies but can you imagine the amount they could raise this way?

I can 100% confirm that Wegmans would never do anything like that for something as ridiculous as NIL donations.

 

[Blanko97]

Can’t they just partner with Wegmans and offer a round up to the nearest dollar at checkout and that amount goes to NIL? A ton of businesses are doing this for the tax write off, not sure NIL qualifies but can you imagine the amount they could raise this way?

I won’t lie, I hate the “round up” stuff. NIL is different but I’ve always thought if you as a corporation really think the cause is so great, YOU should round up my purchase and donate it lol

 

[wiseman3]

"Supporters will also get a variety of benefits for their contribution, including exclusive access to Syracuse Athletics and One Orange Alliance events and more!"

Ok...so what are these benefits? What does "and more!" mean?? If I'm donating, I want to know what I'm getting. I do also thing this is a misstep to not allow contribution to a specific sport. I don't have a ton of money floating around to be donated, so if I donate I dont want my money going to mens soccer or womens field hockey

 

[richmondcuse03]

Well said.

College sports is now pro sports, except they want their fans to subsidize expenses directly. It's lunacy.

I'm a Patriots fan. I buy tickets, pay for parking and concessions, buy merchandise, subscribe to a litany of video services... and Bob Kraft makes money from of all of that.

Kraft Sports Group sells sponsorships for the Pats to area businesses and licenses the Patriots mark for commercial purposes. Bob Kraft makes money from that.

Kraft owns Gillette Stadium and holds concerts and other sporting events there. Bob Kraft makes money from that.

Kraft developed Patriot Place, a mixed use facility that surrounds Gillette Stadium, where he collects rent from dozens of retailers, restaurants and hotels. Bob Kraft makes money from that.

Kraft uses that revenue to pay his front office staff, coaches and players.

What Bob Kraft doesn't do is email me and ask for a $10,000 donation so he can pay Drake Maye.

Yet that's precisely what colleges expect of fans now. It's preposterous.

yup, preposterous is the right word. Schools have to change how they budget and allocate resources based on this. Or they have to raise ticket prices and just charge fans to cover it directly. But the reason that doesnt work is because the budget requires subsidizing lots of other sports and athletes. It's not a true market environment. People are just forgetting this entire part of the equation.

Existing marketing deals have to get redirected to cover athlete costs and you build in more deals because for the value and rights associated with player appearances, jersey rights, etc. Most donors and schools should boycott this entire fiasco if I'm being honest. The sooner we get to the point where everyone says, enough, the better off the entire sport will be. And with that, you can go back to a true academic approach for all the non basketball and football sports. They're either employees or they're not. Half and half ends up with a half baked approach and that's the situation we remain in.

 

[OrangePA]

A lot of misinformation out there and misinformed people about GMAC acquisitions and the current state of the program. Enthusiasm should be improving not getting worse and that has indirect impacts on the ability to fundraise and move forward in a positive direction.

This new paradigm is just not sustainable

 

[CU44SE]

Idk why no one has thought of this. Lefts give up on basketball and football and put all of our NIL and Rev share into Olympic sports. Make the best Olympic sports in the country. Be represented by all the olympians. It would be great for the University!!!!!

Yes I’m kidding

 

[OrangePA]

Idk why no one has thought of this. Lefts give up on basketball and football and put all of our NIL and Rev share into Olympic sports. Make the best Olympic sports in the country. Be represented by all the olympians. It would be great for the University!!!!!

Yes I’m kidding

I know why nobody has thought of this idea.

 

[Sherman20]

Remember this is essentially an expansion of Football NIL. It makes sense that they want to have the flexibility to take care of Fran first and then spread the wealth. Last thing they want is to give someone who has been contributing in the past to SUFBNIL to decide to earmark half that donation to volleyball.
Don’t love it, but understand the potential logic.

Very few people are going to do that.

 

[Madbiker]

I talked with 2 buddies I keep in touch with from our days at Cuse. Both said they would like to give to a NIL for basketball but wouldn't give to a collective where they had no idea what sport the money was going to. I'm guessing a lot of potential contributors to basketball feel this way. Which is going to hurt revenue.

 

[FloridaCuse]

I talked with 2 buddies I keep in touch with from our days at Cuse. Both said they would like to give to a NIL for basketball but wouldn't give to a collective where they had no idea what sport the money was going to. I'm guessing a lot of potential contributors to basketball feel this way. Which is going to hurt revenue.

I agree with you that many do. Did this issue sort of die? Are the PTB going to do anything to fix it and allow NIL donations to specific sports? I'm not confident about it happening just relying on the Bryan Blair's tweets earlier this week about future flexibility or Steve Infanti's general vibes he expresses about it on his radio/streaming show. They are leaving a bunch of money on the table. They should strike while the iron's hot. I'm ready to make a more than token contribution to the NIL fund for men's basketball. I might do more to the general pot later. But not until I do that one first.