PAY THAT MAN HIS MONEY!!!!

[Cheriehoop]

Fran Brown's 'Syracuse 60' program secures jobs for grads in their field within 60 days

Earlier this year, Syracuse football head coach Fran Brown revealed the team’s “Syracuse 60” program.What is that, exactly?According to an SU spokesperson, Brow

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This is great! Not just encourages kids to take academics seriously and graduate, but for players to want a meaningful major.

 

[CanadianSU]

None of the better jobs.

I don’t consider UF a good job right now.

 

[jr4750]

Penn State is the job I’d worry about the most. He could get every top Jersey kid, play in 100K stadium and compete for titles.

 

[Archbold44]

I know there are certain money levels where we cannot compete. But I am just not sure why everyone finds it inevitable that a sane person MUST choose $11M over $7.5M.

First, at Florida, maybe you have a better chance at winning a title. But you also have to win how many of them to dethrone Spurrier and Meyer in the eyes of Florida fans? If you go 10-2, but lose to FSU and Georgia... the fans are not only not happy, but upset. Is it worth it? At Syracuse, he could go 10-2 and we would not care that he lost to Colgate. Record trumps rivalries. If he wins 10 games a year, he will get a statue here. At Florida?

Syracuse might be $7.5M per year... but lower expectations means longer tail on the contract. If he gets 10 years here, that is $75M. Florida could be $11M for 5 years, but you get fired after 3 years because of "fan/booster" expectations. You end up with the $55M (as guaranteed) and having to take another job just to match what you would have gotten from Syracuse for those next 5 years. So you go from Florida to a low P4 rebuild or even a school in the American. Probably make similar money by the time it gets done.

Most importantly, if you are selling relationships/trust/character building in the specific way that Fran is, I am not sure that translates well if you are a mercenary coach always looking for 19 to 23% more money. Building husbands/fathers means more than chasing dollars and shortcuts to success. He cannot do it himself and expect people to buy into it. That will not work as well the second time if he leaves after 2 years. Other recruiters will use it to their advantage... "Fran is all talk. He will bolt if the next opportunity comes along."

I think that it might be tempting for anyone to leave for a Penn State, Alabama, or Georgia level job. Just not sure it makes sense for him to bounce before 2026 just to get more money to be at "an SEC school." And he might be better off NOT being the guy to follow Kirby Smart. In a few years (at most), Alabama might be open. If he is in the running there and then, then very good things must be happening here.

 

[baggerbob]

In fairness, it was his dream job. Until he realized how crappy of an actual job it was getting the program funded like a real D1 school. Then it wasn’t a dream job anymore and he left.

It’s not complicated.

Marrone was always going to take an NFL head coaching job. He was never going to stay in college having to coach new kids every year.

 

[IthacaBarrel]

I know there are certain money levels where we cannot compete. But I am just not sure why everyone finds it inevitable that a sane person MUST choose $11M over $7.5M.

First, at Florida, maybe you have a better chance at winning a title. But you also have to win how many of them to dethrone Spurrier and Meyer in the eyes of Florida fans? If you go 10-2, but lose to FSU and Georgia... the fans are not only not happy, but upset. Is it worth it? At Syracuse, he could go 10-2 and we would not care that he lost to Colgate. Record trumps rivalries. If he wins 10 games a year, he will get a statue here. At Florida?

Syracuse might be $7.5M per year... but lower expectations means longer tail on the contract. If he gets 10 years here, that is $75M. Florida could be $11M for 5 years, but you get fired after 3 years because of "fan/booster" expectations. You end up with the $55M (as guaranteed) and having to take another job just to match what you would have gotten from Syracuse for those next 5 years. So you go from Florida to a low P4 rebuild or even a school in the American. Probably make similar money by the time it gets done.

Most importantly, if you are selling relationships/trust/character building in the specific way that Fran is, I am not sure that translates well if you are a mercenary coach always looking for 19 to 23% more money. Building husbands/fathers means more than chasing dollars and shortcuts to success. He cannot do it himself and expect people to buy into it. That will not work as well the second time if he leaves after 2 years. Other recruiters will use it to their advantage... "Fran is all talk. He will bolt if the next opportunity comes along."

I think that it might be tempting for anyone to leave for a Penn State, Alabama, or Georgia level job. Just not sure it makes sense for him to bounce before 2026 just to get more money to be at "an SEC school." And he might be better off NOT being the guy to follow Kirby Smart. In a few years (at most), Alabama might be open. If he is in the running there and then, then very good things must be happening here.

forgot the State tax in NY versus Florida, makes a difference as well

 

[baggerbob]

Penn State is the job I’d worry about the most. He could get every top Jersey kid, play in 100K stadium and compete for titles.

I said before He knows about Penn St, and Paterno, and Franklin. Fran's values put him above that cesspool.

 

[OrangeFreek]

Ok I am guilty in this but why are we discussing this?? Its just driving us nuts.. lol. God the last 20-23 years prior made us like this!! Fudge. And Also! He said the he prayed for this!! He is not gonna break his faith for the all mighty dollar..

 

[Archbold44]

Marrone was always going to take an NFL head coaching job. He was never going to stay in college having to coach new kids every year.

Not much of a dream job if you hate one of the top 3 responsibilities of it...