PAY THAT MAN HIS MONEY!!!!

[CanadianSU]

None of the better jobs.

I don’t consider UF a good job right now.

 

[jr4750]

Penn State is the job I’d worry about the most. He could get every top Jersey kid, play in 100K stadium and compete for titles.

 

[Archbold44]

I know there are certain money levels where we cannot compete. But I am just not sure why everyone finds it inevitable that a sane person MUST choose $11M over $7.5M.

First, at Florida, maybe you have a better chance at winning a title. But you also have to win how many of them to dethrone Spurrier and Meyer in the eyes of Florida fans? If you go 10-2, but lose to FSU and Georgia... the fans are not only not happy, but upset. Is it worth it? At Syracuse, he could go 10-2 and we would not care that he lost to Colgate. Record trumps rivalries. If he wins 10 games a year, he will get a statue here. At Florida?

Syracuse might be $7.5M per year... but lower expectations means longer tail on the contract. If he gets 10 years here, that is $75M. Florida could be $11M for 5 years, but you get fired after 3 years because of "fan/booster" expectations. You end up with the $55M (as guaranteed) and having to take another job just to match what you would have gotten from Syracuse for those next 5 years. So you go from Florida to a low P4 rebuild or even a school in the American. Probably make similar money by the time it gets done.

Most importantly, if you are selling relationships/trust/character building in the specific way that Fran is, I am not sure that translates well if you are a mercenary coach always looking for 19 to 23% more money. Building husbands/fathers means more than chasing dollars and shortcuts to success. He cannot do it himself and expect people to buy into it. That will not work as well the second time if he leaves after 2 years. Other recruiters will use it to their advantage... "Fran is all talk. He will bolt if the next opportunity comes along."

I think that it might be tempting for anyone to leave for a Penn State, Alabama, or Georgia level job. Just not sure it makes sense for him to bounce before 2026 just to get more money to be at "an SEC school." And he might be better off NOT being the guy to follow Kirby Smart. In a few years (at most), Alabama might be open. If he is in the running there and then, then very good things must be happening here.

 

[baggerbob]

In fairness, it was his dream job. Until he realized how crappy of an actual job it was getting the program funded like a real D1 school. Then it wasn’t a dream job anymore and he left.

It’s not complicated.

Marrone was always going to take an NFL head coaching job. He was never going to stay in college having to coach new kids every year.

 

[IthacaBarrel]

I know there are certain money levels where we cannot compete. But I am just not sure why everyone finds it inevitable that a sane person MUST choose $11M over $7.5M.

First, at Florida, maybe you have a better chance at winning a title. But you also have to win how many of them to dethrone Spurrier and Meyer in the eyes of Florida fans? If you go 10-2, but lose to FSU and Georgia... the fans are not only not happy, but upset. Is it worth it? At Syracuse, he could go 10-2 and we would not care that he lost to Colgate. Record trumps rivalries. If he wins 10 games a year, he will get a statue here. At Florida?

Syracuse might be $7.5M per year... but lower expectations means longer tail on the contract. If he gets 10 years here, that is $75M. Florida could be $11M for 5 years, but you get fired after 3 years because of "fan/booster" expectations. You end up with the $55M (as guaranteed) and having to take another job just to match what you would have gotten from Syracuse for those next 5 years. So you go from Florida to a low P4 rebuild or even a school in the American. Probably make similar money by the time it gets done.

Most importantly, if you are selling relationships/trust/character building in the specific way that Fran is, I am not sure that translates well if you are a mercenary coach always looking for 19 to 23% more money. Building husbands/fathers means more than chasing dollars and shortcuts to success. He cannot do it himself and expect people to buy into it. That will not work as well the second time if he leaves after 2 years. Other recruiters will use it to their advantage... "Fran is all talk. He will bolt if the next opportunity comes along."

I think that it might be tempting for anyone to leave for a Penn State, Alabama, or Georgia level job. Just not sure it makes sense for him to bounce before 2026 just to get more money to be at "an SEC school." And he might be better off NOT being the guy to follow Kirby Smart. In a few years (at most), Alabama might be open. If he is in the running there and then, then very good things must be happening here.

forgot the State tax in NY versus Florida, makes a difference as well

 

[baggerbob]

Penn State is the job I’d worry about the most. He could get every top Jersey kid, play in 100K stadium and compete for titles.

I said before He knows about Penn St, and Paterno, and Franklin. Fran's values put him above that cesspool.

 

[OrangeFreek]

Ok I am guilty in this but why are we discussing this?? Its just driving us nuts.. lol. God the last 20-23 years prior made us like this!! Fudge. And Also! He said the he prayed for this!! He is not gonna break his faith for the all mighty dollar..

 

[Archbold44]

Marrone was always going to take an NFL head coaching job. He was never going to stay in college having to coach new kids every year.

Not much of a dream job if you hate one of the top 3 responsibilities of it...

 

[kingtidge]

USA Today throwing the clickbait title out already...

Syracuse's Fran Brown will be hottest SEC coaching target in next hiring cycle

After an impressive start to his Syracuse football rebuild, Fran Brown will be biggest name in 2026 college football hiring cycle.

www.usatoday.com

Also, not surprised, but the number of Florida fans on socials saying he WILL be their next coach is a little unsettling but Napier will be owed like $25 mill if he's canned after this year, so not sure the Gators are ready to absorb that...

National media spotlight on Fran Brown's success an unwelcome distraction

When you have USA Today national college football writer Matt Hayes coming out with his proclamation that Brown will be coaching in the SEC in 2026, as he did

www.si.com

 

[RedtheGOB]

USA Today throwing the clickbait title out already...

Syracuse's Fran Brown will be hottest SEC coaching target in next hiring cycle

After an impressive start to his Syracuse football rebuild, Fran Brown will be biggest name in 2026 college football hiring cycle.

www.usatoday.com

Also, not surprised, but the number of Florida fans on socials saying he WILL be there next coach is a little unsettling but Napier will be owed like $25 mill if he's canned after this year, so not sure the Gators are ready to absorb that...

National media spotlight on Fran Brown's success an unwelcome distraction

When you have USA Today national college football writer Matt Hayes coming out with his proclamation that Brown will be coaching in the SEC in 2026, as he did

www.si.com

Hah the same media and Clemson fans that said their team was going to win a Natty this year and now they say Nixon is going to come to Clemson to be their OC. Just because they're used to lighting their money on fire and winning doesn't mean they can now.

They're all morons. People do realize that after Tennessee and Uconn OT they had nothing good to say except making us 17.5 dogs to Clemson.

 

[zjscuse]

I know there are certain money levels where we cannot compete. But I am just not sure why everyone finds it inevitable that a sane person MUST choose $11M over $7.5M.

First, at Florida, maybe you have a better chance at winning a title. But you also have to win how many of them to dethrone Spurrier and Meyer in the eyes of Florida fans? If you go 10-2, but lose to FSU and Georgia... the fans are not only not happy, but upset. Is it worth it? At Syracuse, he could go 10-2 and we would not care that he lost to Colgate. Record trumps rivalries. If he wins 10 games a year, he will get a statue here. At Florida?

Syracuse might be $7.5M per year... but lower expectations means longer tail on the contract. If he gets 10 years here, that is $75M. Florida could be $11M for 5 years, but you get fired after 3 years because of "fan/booster" expectations. You end up with the $55M (as guaranteed) and having to take another job just to match what you would have gotten from Syracuse for those next 5 years. So you go from Florida to a low P4 rebuild or even a school in the American. Probably make similar money by the time it gets done.

Most importantly, if you are selling relationships/trust/character building in the specific way that Fran is, I am not sure that translates well if you are a mercenary coach always looking for 19 to 23% more money. Building husbands/fathers means more than chasing dollars and shortcuts to success. He cannot do it himself and expect people to buy into it. That will not work as well the second time if he leaves after 2 years. Other recruiters will use it to their advantage... "Fran is all talk. He will bolt if the next opportunity comes along."

I think that it might be tempting for anyone to leave for a Penn State, Alabama, or Georgia level job. Just not sure it makes sense for him to bounce before 2026 just to get more money to be at "an SEC school." And he might be better off NOT being the guy to follow Kirby Smart. In a few years (at most), Alabama might be open. If he is in the running there and then, then very good things must be happening here.

Email this to him now lol

 

[azbobbop]

It’s time for Wildhack to take this issue off the table. Pay the man. Maybe not $11MM but $9MM ish sounds good. I don’t want to go through the next year hearing about this every day.

Syracuse is a ridiculously rich school. The enrollment gains that come with top tier sports teams is proven. A couple of million is a rounding error for Syracuse.

 

[RedtheGOB]

If people really want to see some good stuff, just watch all the Clemson postgame podcasters and insiders still melting down a week later. They have a bye week which makes it even worse waiting around to see if they'll be Florida State bad or just middle of the pack ACC.

It's not very often that in 1 game a team and coach completely ruins an entire program but I think Fran did it. Everything is being questioned there, every player, every staff member, Dabo's approach, pretty much every single person that is involved in the program in some way.

 

[SuFTW]

If Nixon is gone next year it will be a good thing.

It would be developing Coach Frans coaching tree.

This allows him to bring in better candidates.

That’s the name of the game for assistant positions.

Something that fans at Syracuse haven’t been used to in a long long time

Are you saying better Candidates than Nixon?
If so, I don’t think that will be easy.

 

[GoSU96]

USA Today throwing the clickbait title out already...

Syracuse's Fran Brown will be hottest SEC coaching target in next hiring cycle

After an impressive start to his Syracuse football rebuild, Fran Brown will be biggest name in 2026 college football hiring cycle.

www.usatoday.com

Also, not surprised, but the number of Florida fans on socials saying he WILL be there next coach is a little unsettling but Napier will be owed like $25 mill if he's canned after this year, so not sure the Gators are ready to absorb that...

National media spotlight on Fran Brown's success an unwelcome distraction

When you have USA Today national college football writer Matt Hayes coming out with his proclamation that Brown will be coaching in the SEC in 2026, as he did

www.si.com

He’s not going to Florida

 

[GoSU96]

It’s time for Wildhack to take this issue off the table. Pay the man. Maybe not $11MM but $9MM ish sounds good. I don’t want to go through the next year hearing about this every day.

Syracuse is a ridiculously rich school. The enrollment gains that come with top tier sports teams is proven. A couple of million is a rounding error for Syracuse.

Hey Jimmy, is that you?

Ridiculously rich? Come on man.

 

[Ttk.gman2]

This is something that doesn’t get talked about enough — NIL has to increase if we want to stay competitive. It directly impacts recruiting, roster retention, and the transfer portal. If we want to keep building on the momentum Coach Brown and his staff have created, we need stronger NIL support. That’s the only way to stay on the same trajectory as our coaching.

 

[bnoro]

What are you implying?

I think you can figure it out. I would kill for him to be here for the next 10 years though.

 

[GoCuse14]

*Publicly mentioned.

All I'm saying is enjoy the ride while we can. The restoration of SU Football is finally here.

I get where you are going.

But as emphatically as he said it, in public, on record. With everything else he has said about being himself, being real and being loyal.

I just don’t see a world where he doesn’t stand by that. It would take something egregious by the University for him to bounce just for money.

That’s my opinion.

 

[orangetrain]

6m
Solid assistant money

15 to 16 out of the 20.3

Additional 10m in NIL

Add 2M to assistant pool, 10m is good for NIL, but we aren’t even close, and fan support.
Then get his salary to 7m and he stays.

 

[orangetrain]

Fran said last summer that he needs around $6-8 million more than what the University now provides, which is around $14-15 million. He needs at least $20 million to be very competitive. They should be able to reach those numbers. Area businesses are the key. Micron and the spinoff companies are going to bring in a lot of opportunities. They should also bring in more people, which may mean tickets might be hard to come by.

Area businesses are the key

 

[Nick44]

Can the admins permanently pin the various Syracuse Football NIL options at the top of this board for those who would like to contribute? Might be helpful for those of us who don’t know where to go but trust this board for that guidance. Might also encourage some giving amongst this site. Thanks!

 

[upperdeck]

if you told me i could make 4 million and 3 million would help my team win or i could make 7 million and my team would struggle, would I really care that I am losing 1+ a yr after taxes by going someplace else?

At that point you have the money you need, quality of life and can you compete come into play.

 

[orangetrain]

From what I’ve been told the only one that Football and the university acknowledges is SUFootball NIL

 

[bothsocksup]

I think you can figure it out. I would kill for him to be here for the next 10 years though.

can someone explain what bnoro is saying here?