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Personal foul on Richards

FAL said:
I’m from Missouri...show me.
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show you what? Did you watch the game? Because if so, I don't see how anyone could debate that tuazama's play was worth getting tossed. There's no place for that type helmet-to-helmet cheap shot in the game. By the way, the booth review lasted approximately thirty seconds before they tossed him oh, that should be telling.
 
RF2044 said:
show you what? Did you watch the game? Because if so, I don't see how anyone could debate that tuaozma's play was worth getting tossed. There's no place for that type helmet-to-helmet cheap shot in the game. By the way, the booth review lasted approximately thirty seconds before they tossed him oh, that should be telling.
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I was at the game. Saw the clean hit right in front of me. So again: BS!
 
just watched a hit in the FSU game that was way worse on the QB and it never even got a look
 
Didn’t see second one as game was off. The Richards’ hit wasn’t targeting imo. He hit him with his forearms first. It looked much worse because the idiot qb stood there like a moron with zero resistance. He basically hit a scare crow.
 
PhatOrange said:
Don’t lower the head. Keep your eyes up and see what you’re tackling. It’s simple really you can’t hit some one with the crown of your helmet. If he’d hit him with his face mask it’s fine.
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I don’t think people realize that the rule is in place to protect the defensive players as much as the offensive. Leading with the crown of your helmet is a major risk to your spine.

There were a lot of people in my section screaming that the quarterback wasn’t defenseless so it shouldn’t be a penalty. But I can’t argue with the refs on this one. He lowered his head
 
RF2044 said:
You loved him launching himself like a missile, and making clear helmet-to-helmet contact with that QB? Okay...
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It absolutely was not helmet-to-helmet, (see link above). He did lead with his helmet, (into the guy's shoulder), and, as stated the rule is there to protect the defensive player as well as the offensive player. Put me in the camp of it should have been a penalty but not ejection.
 
SWC75 said:
It absolutely was not helmet-to-helmet, (see link above). He did lead with his helmet, (into the guy's shoulder), and, as stated the rule is there to protect the defensive player as well as the offensive player. Put me in the camp of it should have been a penalty but not ejection.
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The camp you're in is irrelevant -- officials who know how to interpret the rules spent 10 seconds evaluating before declaring it a no-brainer ejection.
 
RF2044 said:
The camp you're in is irrelevant -- officials who know how to interpret the rules spent 10 seconds evaluating before declaring it a no-brainer ejection.
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You are correct that my opinion is not the basis of the decision. That doesn't mean i can't have one. I agreed that it should have been a penalty. I recall the decision taking longer than 10 seconds. And, as I pointed out, it was not helmet-to-helmet. That is a fact, not an opinion.
 
PhatOrange said:
Don’t lower the head. Keep your eyes up and see what you’re tackling. It’s simple really you can’t hit some one with the crown of your helmet. If he’d hit him with his face mask it’s fine.
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This is great in theory but it is 100 percent physically impossible. Try running full speed into something and not dipping the crown of your head the slightest.
 
RF2044 said:
Need to get your eyes checked, then.

Shortest booth review I've ever seen, because there was zero doubt.
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Yeah, I even said in the game thread that there really wasn't a need to review it (other than I believe it is required for ejection, but I could be wrong about that).

Literally no doubt about the hit's ejectability. And yes, I just created a new word. :)
 
You can't launch yourself at someone helmet-first and expect not to get called. Lead with your shoulder if you are going to lay a hit like that. Or just wrap up, our guys have enough problems with that...
 
SWC75 said:
You are correct that my opinion is not the basis of the decision. That doesn't mean i can't have one. I agreed that it should have been a penalty. I recall the decision taking longer than 10 seconds. And, as I pointed out, it was not helmet-to-helmet. That is a fact, not an opinion.
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The link above didn't show the Tuazama hit, which was clearly helmet-to-helmet. That's what was being discussed -- not the Richards play.

As stated numerous times throughout this thread, I agree 100% that Richards did not hit the guy with his helmet, did not target, and should not have been tossed.
 
PhatOrange said:
It’s below the shoulders so no it’s not targeting, I get that. But Richards hit the kid with the crown of his helmet and that’s spearing, clear as day. 15 yard penalty. He should’ve stayed in the game then...I’ll compromise.

These officials were the worst I’ve seen all year. Where were they from?
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I thought it was his forearms and shoulder. I saw no leading with the crown of the helmet. What were you watching? Watch again.
 
CIL said:
This is great in theory but it is 100 percent physically impossible. Try running full speed into something and not dipping the crown of your head the slightest.
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I’ve done it plenty, it’s easy not to hit someone with the crown of your head. Who would want to, it hurts. instinctually the head might dip and go to the side as you really want to hit with the shoulder. You know that.
 
PhatOrange said:
I’ve done it plenty, it’s easy not to hit someone with the crown of your head. Who would want to, it hurts. instinctually the head might dip and go to the side as you really want to hit with the shoulder. You know that.
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I do. I’m referring to Richards’ hit. He. Had forearm up, and hit him square but only for the crown to dip after. That was a bad call - it looked worse because the QB was literally standing there and probably wasn’t used to seeing that type of closing speed.

Tuazama’s on The other hand...
 
CIL said:
I do. I’m referring to Richards’ hit. He. Had forearm up, and hit him square but only for the crown to dip after. That was a bad call - it looked worse because the QB was literally standing there and probably wasn’t used to seeing that type of closing speed.

Tuazama’s on The other hand...
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Agree. Only thing I guess Richards could do different is try to move his head to the side and go more with the shoulder. But given his speed, and a QB who couldn't react to a delayed blitz coming RIGHT AT HIM, he still might have ended up with targeting because the QB's head snapped. Wasn't even called on the field.

Tuazama, no question. Ref called it right away. Surprised they had to replay for more than 1 second. Head right up on the head. Someone does that to our QB, we'd all want him out of the game.
 
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