Pete Thamel

[Madbiker]

They gave Red, an unproven first time HC, a 5 year contract?
Talk about stupidity. Who else was offering him? Nobody. He wanted the job desperately. Good grief.

 

[Millhouse]

Dumbest contract ever!

Get rid of Wildhack

 

[gmacfor3]

I was told from a university source that it would cost 9-10 million to buy out Red (which corroborates with what others have said), then whatever the buyout is for the new coach, then to pay the new coach. People talk about lost revenue next season, and I totally get it (it’s likely gonna get even worse), but that is in the future. To fire red and hire a new coach you are looking at around 14-15 million conservatively, and the athletic department simply doesn’t have the money right now. Apparently Cuse only has raised around 1 million in their new 50 million dollar fundraising campaign. Usually these campaigns don’t even get announced until 50% is already raised, and Cuse announced theirs when they had 2% raised. It reeks of desperation.

Don’t shoot the messenger(s)…it’s obvious to nearly everyone that this is a sinking ship with an unqualified captain. But we all better grab our life preservers because our captain isn’t going anywhere any time soon.

 

[Cusefan0307]

I was told from a university source that it would cost 9-10 million to buy out Red (which corroborates with what others have said), then whatever the buyout is for the new coach, then to pay the new coach. People talk about lost revenue next season, and I totally get it (it’s likely gonna get even worse), but that is in the future. To fire red and hire a new coach you are looking at around 14-15 million conservatively, and the athletic department simply doesn’t have the money right now. Apparently Cuse only has raised around 1 million in their new 50 million dollar fundraising campaign. Usually these campaigns don’t even get announced until 50% is already raised, and Cuse announced theirs when they had 2% raised. It reeks of desperation.

Don’t shoot the messenger(s)…it’s obvious to nearly everyone that this is a sinking ship with an unqualified captain. But we all better grab our life preservers because our captain isn’t going anywhere any time soon.

They raised a million yesterday alone from one person. I was called yesterday afternoon to donate myself.

 

[gmacfor3]

They raised a million yesterday alone from one person. I was called yesterday afternoon to donate myself.

My information is several days old, so that makes sense. Meant to post earlier this week but didn’t get a chance to.

 

[Fly Rodder]

I was told from a university source that it would cost 9-10 million to buy out Red (which corroborates with what others have said), then whatever the buyout is for the new coach, then to pay the new coach. People talk about lost revenue next season, and I totally get it (it’s likely gonna get even worse), but that is in the future. To fire red and hire a new coach you are looking at around 14-15 million conservatively, and the athletic department simply doesn’t have the money right now. Apparently Cuse only has raised around 1 million in their new 50 million dollar fundraising campaign. Usually these campaigns don’t even get announced until 50% is already raised, and Cuse announced theirs when they had 2% raised. It reeks of desperation.

Don’t shoot the messenger(s)…it’s obvious to nearly everyone that this is a sinking ship with an unqualified captain. But we all better grab our life preservers because our captain isn’t going anywhere any time soon.

I’m starting to think that Fran is exception rather than the rule. The dome is going to be a mausoleum next season for basketball.

 

[sufan59]

I was told from a university source that it would cost 9-10 million to buy out Red (which corroborates with what others have said), then whatever the buyout is for the new coach, then to pay the new coach. People talk about lost revenue next season, and I totally get it (it’s likely gonna get even worse), but that is in the future. To fire red and hire a new coach you are looking at around 14-15 million conservatively, and the athletic department simply doesn’t have the money right now. Apparently Cuse only has raised around 1 million in their new 50 million dollar fundraising campaign. Usually these campaigns don’t even get announced until 50% is already raised, and Cuse announced theirs when they had 2% raised. It reeks of desperation.

Don’t shoot the messenger(s)…it’s obvious to nearly everyone that this is a sinking ship with an unqualified captain. But we all better grab our life preservers because our captain isn’t going anywhere any time soon.

How we have a 9-10 million dollar buy out on a guy in his 2nd season as a head coach is wild stuff lol

 

[richmondcuse03]

My information is several days old, so that makes sense. Meant to post earlier this week but didn’t get a chance to.

The information was also incorrect regarding the campaign when it started too.

 

[phil77]

I was told from a university source that it would cost 9-10 million to buy out Red (which corroborates with what others have said), then whatever the buyout is for the new coach, then to pay the new coach. People talk about lost revenue next season, and I totally get it (it’s likely gonna get even worse), but that is in the future. To fire red and hire a new coach you are looking at around 14-15 million conservatively, and the athletic department simply doesn’t have the money right now. Apparently Cuse only has raised around 1 million in their new 50 million dollar fundraising campaign. Usually these campaigns don’t even get announced until 50% is already raised, and Cuse announced theirs when they had 2% raised. It reeks of desperation.

Don’t shoot the messenger(s)…it’s obvious to nearly everyone that this is a sinking ship with an unqualified captain. But we all better grab our life preservers because our captain isn’t going anywhere any time soon.

This is the second person that stated that number, not that I think Dashers numbers are wrong, but hearing it twice really hammers it home. WHAT A GOD AWFUL CONTRACT !!!!!! Whoever gave him that contract and thought that contract was a good idea should be fired as well. That is so so so bad I can't even explain how bad that is for an unproven coach who has never even interviewed for another P4 head coaching job in his entire career or any head coaching job at any level. That is total malpractice to be honest and unacceptable.

People need to start being held accountable for the dumb decision that our athletic department continues to make over and over again.

 

[richmondcuse03]

I’m more concerned when some AD sources keep trying to throw a few individuals under the bus by sharing inaccurate information.

 

[gmacfor3]

How we have a 9-10 million dollar buy out on a guy in his 2nd season as a head coach is wild stuff lol

100% agree. The fact that Red was apparently given a 5 year contract at approximately 3 million a year is absolutely a fireable offense for JW.

 

[OrlandoCuse]

They gave Red, an unproven first time HC, a 5 year contract?
Talk about stupidity. Who else was offering him? Nobody. He wanted the job desperately. Good grief.

I guess GMac must have wanted 6 years at guaranteed $4m per year……….

 

[BlackSquirrels]

Can our message board brother JWILD44 donate some of his salary back to the athletic department again?

Or has he done that anonymously already?

 

[FrancoPizza]

I’m more concerned when some AD sources keep trying to throw a few individuals under the bus by sharing inaccurate information.

Explain? I’m a bit slow.

 

[ar inj]

It isn't that. It's on the altar of money. We aren't going to eat 9 million bucks plus paya new coach

Stop. It is not $9M, and I understand that is meant to represent Autry plus. Even so, I doubt they pull the plug.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Apparently Cuse only has raised around 1 million in their new 50 million dollar fundraising campaign. Usually these campaigns don’t even get announced until 50% is already raised, and Cuse announced theirs when they had 2% raised. It reeks of desperation.

How do you plan on raising $50 million without announcing that you're trying to raise $50 million?

 

[elimunelson]

Unserious program. Watching St. John’s is infinitely more entertaining at this point. They must be a bigger program now. Good for them.

 

[DilemaCuse]

Red is not making $3 million a year. Zero chance. Nadda. You don’t pay him more than JB. If JW did, he should be shown the door. He might not even make $2 million.

Boy I hope your right, I'm hoping you know more than me.

 

[gmacfor3]

How do you plan on raising $50 million without announcing that you're trying to raise $50 million?

That was my thought but apparently that isn’t how you do it in the fundraising world.

 

[Sherman20]

I still can’t comprehend how someone at Syracuse would give Red $3m/year on a 3-4 year guaranteed contract. That makes zero sense for an unproven coach. I really hope is just a bad rumor that has zero merit.

Same.

 

[Sherman20]

I was told from a university source that it would cost 9-10 million to buy out Red (which corroborates with what others have said), then whatever the buyout is for the new coach, then to pay the new coach. People talk about lost revenue next season, and I totally get it (it’s likely gonna get even worse), but that is in the future. To fire red and hire a new coach you are looking at around 14-15 million conservatively, and the athletic department simply doesn’t have the money right now. Apparently Cuse only has raised around 1 million in their new 50 million dollar fundraising campaign. Usually these campaigns don’t even get announced until 50% is already raised, and Cuse announced theirs when they had 2% raised. It reeks of desperation.

Don’t shoot the messenger(s)…it’s obvious to nearly everyone that this is a sinking ship with an unqualified captain. But we all better grab our life preservers because our captain isn’t going anywhere any time soon.

I still don’t understand this $9 million figure. Wildhack and the university lawyers are fools and should be fired immediately if they’re paying Red $3 million per year with a 5 year contract. Is that what people are suggesting? He had ZERO experience as a head coach. They should have been prepared that this might not work out and we would need to fire him. How much was JB being paid in his final years?

 

[Bayside44]

That was my thought but apparently that isn’t how you do it in the fundraising world.

It's for NIL fundraising where they needed the money yesterday. This isn't building a building where they need seed money to continue.

 

[Scooch]

I’m not challenging anyone, but I’m also very skeptical that there’s a buyout that high. It makes no sense.

 

[Janner]

I still don’t understand this $9 million figure. Wildhack and the university lawyers are fools and should be fired immediately if they’re paying Red $3 million per year with a 5 year contract. Is that what people are suggesting? He had ZERO experience as a head coach. They should have been prepared that this might not work out and we would need to fire him. How much was JB being paid in his final years?

100% right. This is shocking if true. Utterly shocking. JW needs to be called out for this level of absolute incompetence if this is the case. How do you not learn your lesson, or at least be cautious, after the Babers debacle?! ADJW might have just signed his own death sentence because this program will be dead by the time Autry get fired. God help us.

 

[RF2044]

I still can’t comprehend how someone at Syracuse would give Red $3m/year on a 3-4 year guaranteed contract. That makes zero sense for an unproven coach. I really hope is just a bad rumor that has zero merit.

Unfathomable.

If true, then the JB replacement was botched in just about every conceivable way, end-to-end.