Class of 2022 PF Jaret Valencia (TX/Colombia) Portal to Wichita St

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[dasher]

Kid has a lot of potential. Would not be surprised with a commit.

 

[Orangezoo]

Kid has a lot of potential. Would not be surprised with a commit.

Watching his highlights last two years and then his HS highlights this would be a better add than it might appear at first glance. Kid plays extremely hard, really good athlete and a decent looking shot. Plus another decent defender and a shot blocker.

 

[SUFan44]

These are the kids that help the versatility of a roster. Like it.

 

[Orangezoo]

These are the kids that help the versatility of a roster. Like it.

And this is a kid you could easily see blowing up as a Jr in the CAA and being a major portal target$$$ the year after. This is where Kline shows his chops in having experience as a scout.

 

[PauliePeppas]

Athletes athletes athletes. This team might block more shots in the first five games then it did all of last season.

 

[Orangezoo]

Athletes athletes athletes. This team might block more shots in the first five games then it did all of last season.

Athletes who can do more than one thing though as well. That’s the even bigger key.

 

[baggerbob]

Athletes athletes athletes. This team might block more shots in the first five games then it did all of last season.

They might get more steals and fastbreak baskets too.

 

[Orangezoo]

They might get more steals and fastbreak baskets too.

Kyle, Sadiq, Donnie, Souare and Valencia makes for ample guys who like to live above the rim.

 

[baggerbob]

Athletes who can do more than one thing though as well. That’s the even bigger key.

If you think back to Jim's early years, Eddie Moss, Rosie, Santifer, Red Bruin, a lot of good athletes, Orr, Addison, DC , Rony, Stevie, Dave Johnson. Then he let them play and get better.

 

[dasher]

Athletes athletes athletes. This team might block more shots in the first five games then it did all of last season.

Might?

 

[Consigliere]

Isn’t King Rice still the coach at Monmouth?

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Isn’t King Rice still the coach at Monmouth?

Yes. Yes he is.

 

[ezbeezy214]

Kyle, Sadiq, Donnie, Souare and Valencia makes for ample guys who like to live above the rim.

They should be a unit

 

[Niastri]

SU is linked to multiple combo forwards and no centers. That tells me Mr Freeman might see some real minutes as the biggest guy on the floor.

I think you’re right… I can’t say I agree, but having a whole bunch of bouncy 6’9 guys could work.

 

[CardiacCuse]

I think you’re right… I can’t say I agree, but having a whole bunch of bouncy 6’9 guys could work.

it could definitely work

but from a roster construction angle its a bit of a gamble to just go for one type of player and not be more versatile with the player types...i.e. a taller, more traditional big to at least give the option to play that way

 

[Niastri]

Athletes athletes athletes. This team might block more shots in the first five games then it did all of last season.

I started thinking about that this morning… Lampkin led us with 16 blocks last season in about 1000 minutes. Kyle got more blocks in about 1/3 the minutes, Souare got more in half the minutes. Even Kingz and George would have been contenders to lead the team in blocks. With Freeman, White and whoever the last transfer is, we’re likely to have a team filled with lengthy athletes who can block shots.

 

[Orangezoo]

I started thinking about that this morning… Lampkin led us with 16 blocks last season in about 1000 minutes. Kyle got more bucks in about 1/3 the minutes, Souare got more in half the minutes. Even Kingz and George would have been contenders to lead the team in blocks. With Freman, White and whoever the last transfer is, we’re likely to have a team filled with lengthy athletes who can block shots.

Which means even more importantly you force teams to think twice in how they attack the rim and force turnovers on shots or drives that are adjusted to avoid the shot blocker.

Simple but effective plus guys that can erase mistakes.

 

[Todoubled23]

I generally like how the team is being constructed on paper.

Ready for the switch back to a full time 2-3 zone!

 

[Niastri]

Which means even more importantly you force teams to think twice in how they attack the rim and force turnovers on shots or drives that are adjusted to avoid the shot blocker.

Simple but effective plus guys that can erase mistakes.

The best Syracuse defenses always had a center who’s primary skill was blocking shots, and then long versatile forwards who also were decent at blocking shots. We were often near the lead in blocks as a team along major conference teams. In fact, all four teams from 2010-2013 blocked more shots per game than the NCAA leader this year, who averaged only 6.2

 

[Orangezoo]

The best Syracuse defenses always had a center who’s primary skill was blocking shots, and then long versatile forwards who also were decent at blocking shots. We were often near the lead in blocks as a team along major conference teams. In fact, all four teams from 2010-2013 blocked more shots per game than the NCAA leader this year, who averaged only 6.2

Bingo. We also had guys who played above the rim making to take advantage of the pg play.

George likes the pick and roll along with finding guys with the lob. Valencia would be an another guy who makes life easier for our new PG.

The more I see things coming together the more it reminds me of older Cuse teams. Have smart talented guys to run the point, a few shooters and outright scorers, and elite talent at pf or sf and a bunch of athletes who defend, run the floor and play above the rim. With this you can run more simple action on offense and let whoever is running the point have more autonomy possession to possession. Then on defense you have more guys playing end to end and cleaning up some of the mistakes.

 

[baggerbob]

Bingo. We also had guys who played above the rim making to take advantage of the pg play.

George likes the pick and roll along with finding guys with the lob. Valencia would be an another guy who makes life easier for our new PG.

The more I see things coming together the more it reminds me of older Cuse teams. Have smart talented guys to run the point, a few shooters and outright scorers, and elite talent at pf or sf and a bunch of athletes who defend, run the floor and play above the rim. With this you can run more simple action on offense and let whoever is running the point have more autonomy possession to possession. Then on defense you have more guys playing end to end and cleaning up some of the mistakes.

That's why I mentioned Jim's early teams, people think all we ever played was the 2/3 zone. The early teams got up and down and sometimes in your face. Especially when Rony and DC were together.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Would be an interesting get. I would be happy with it as he would have multiple years and he’s extremely athletic. Still pretty raw with a lot of potential.

Interesting because Jaret and Sadiq are basically the same player lol. Both extremely athletic and both have similar skill sets at the point. Hard to pass up on a kid that’s 6’10 and this kind of athlete and potential though, that has multiple years left

He doesn't look close to 6-10. More like 6-8, maybe a little taller.

 

[IthacaMatt]

SU is linked to multiple combo forwards and no centers. That tells me Mr Freeman might see some real minutes as the biggest guy on the floor.

I think White will see some time. I think Freeman is going to be more of a pure forward. I don't think he wants to be stuck at center.

 

[Dmcnabbrules]

I think White will see some time. I think Freeman is going to be more of a pure forward. I don't think he wants to be stuck at center.

Offensively I don’t think there will be much difference between the two positions. Freeman will be involved in a ton of pick and rolls no matter his position.
Defensively White weighs 190 pounds, no way he can guard any centers. Freeman will be guarding centers if they want to get White minutes. Kiyan is going to play along side JJ and George at times. White needs minutes somewhere.
The only way this thing works is if Freeman plays 15+/- minutes a game as the “biggest” guy. I won’t call it center.