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Some ‘Eye Test’ stuff today:

• Weird, but in the first ten+ minutes, offensively with JJ running point, there was close to no movement from anyone who didn’t have the ball. All iso-ish stuff. When Carlos came in, immediately, there was significant movement. Two or three other players actively running sets or just cutting/working for space/playmaking. That substitution also brought in Bell and Cuffe, the two guys most noticeably doing ‘Something’ other than just watching the dribbling. That motion didn’t last that long, though.

• I decided to actually count the number of ‘easy baskets’ we got vs gave up. In half point increments. Like, vaguely, if it was a wide open, uncontested shot or layup/dunk as if resulting from a completely blown defense or fast break [full point], vs just a lazy defense, poor rotation, etc. resulting in an easy attempt. We lost that contest 10.5 to 2.

• I think our defense has actually been improving these past “couple three” games, but it really is hard to know what’s been Us vs playing against very unimpressive competition. We do look less Wholesale Incompetent, and now might just be Not Good. I guess we will find out for sure Feb 5. I anticipate carnage.

• JJ had such a hitch in his ft today it looked like a convulsion. The second one looked like a hiccup. He made both. He’s playing very well on one side of the court, but still looks occasionally like the left hand is a problem. He still can’t keep his man in front of him, and it often looks like he thinks the guy he’s guarding is opposite-handed. That’s how easily guys just go around him. Weird, since he is probably our quickest player.

It really sucks that the losses amass and I have zero feeling about them. Still watch every minute, but at this point the degree of futility has become a laughing point. Always rather see a win, but if we lose, I’d almost rather see a loss that contributes to the AD’s recognition that this is an untenable situation.

I don’t watch other college basketball games anymore. Not interested because the overall quality just doesn’t impress and there aren’t ’stars‘ anymore. I did tune into Michigan at Purdue because I read Michigan runs a 7’ point guard with a high-low action with a 7’ center or somesuch, but I didn’t see that in the part of the game I watched. What I did see was an incredible college game atmosphere at Purdue. Loud. Not loud as in one dork yelling into an announcer's mic for 20 minutes. Loud, as a wall of excitement, chants, and passion. Purdue, without many real athletes, plays tough defense. The fans have a scoreboard specifically for Defense. They created a lot of turnovers and no 11 Purdue Just dominated no 21 Michigan, though they had similar records.

A bunch of sturdy dudes who all knew how to play the game. No hotdogging, no flash, no dumb celebrations. No slop. We have a lot of slop. We had one play where JJ was passing to Moore who had to tightrope the sideline and barely got the ball back to JJ… and right after that, a play where it was like volleyball/hot potato between 3 guys, fumbling The ball around. Another one where Lampkin caught a saved ball on the perimeter and seemed to accidentally dribble between his legs, while tightly defended. Then, of course, there were the countless Eddie flip ups, taps, and quick shots that barely graze the rim, and the inevitable Cuffe missed layups. We just don’t seem like we practice against ‘traffic’ at the rim.

We also don’t have the kind of athleticism that lets us explode at the rim. Where we have height, we don’t have lift, where we have lift, we don’t have the playmakers/playmaking to exploit it. If we had an offensive scheme and defense that creates opportunities, some of that athleticism disadvantage would be mitigated. But….
 
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There’s no way he’s getting 3 million a year. Hubert isn’t even getting 2 million for UNC.
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If Red is getting more than they paid JB, with no resume, no HC experience, and no other programs bidding for his services…. Well, that would be bizarre and dumb. Even considering JB took a discount.
 
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If Red is getting more than they paid JB, with no resume, no HC experience, and no other programs bidding for his services…. Well, that would be bizarre and dumb. Even considering JB took a discount.
He got a bump. When he was first hired he was under 2 million. There’s no way Red is getting 3.
 
Crazy that Bing got those rebound numbers at 6’3“ 180 lbs.
In 1966 6'3" small forwards were common. The center on that team was 6'6". He was probably the best player on the court in just about all the games.
 
I’m willing to give JW the benefit of the doubt that he isn’t a completely incompetent moron…not having a national search and hiring Red was likely dictated by politics and others in the university. I suspect that in part because JW has had a successful career, and the Syracuse University administration has been a clownshow for 30+ years.
He's going to have to answer for both hoop programs soon. Taking Frans call has been his best move.
 
Well they certainly didn't have a good pulse on the state of the bball program. Is that part of their job?

Thing is, it's college sports at a very high level, hires that don't work out happen all the time--median job tenure of a power five coach is like 4 years.

I'm not sure Red gets another year here, but big picture, I think the reason this is all so tough is because we've been lucky enough to avoid experiencing the ups and downs of coaching transitions for several decades. I mean, as bad as things are, a lot of people are saying we should've booted Jim earlier and gone with an outside hire. Imagine we did just that in 2022, when Kenny Payne and Kyle Neptune were two of the big outside names on the market. Oof.
 
Probably speculation. Even though there is no confidence in AA for year 3, the first year wasn't that bad so it's not consecutive embarrassing seasons only 1. Also if JW dismisses AA after 2 years it's an admission of failure in deciding to hire him, for some reason they think it looks better to do it after 3 years instead of 2. And then there are the contract details that aren't public. People have been posting $3 million a year, 5 year contract that made my jaw hit the floor and fall out of my chair to give a guy who is 50 and never been a head coach before. There's a reason no school in a small time conference ever offered or hired him to get his feet wet.
I agree 100%. I assume he's back as well. But I was just curious if you knew something.
 
Guys also couldn't put the ball in the ocean, so there were more rebounds to go around.
Baseball was the dominant sport back then and college hoops players were smaller and less athletic so shooting percentages were lower. The game featured plenty of great players like Jerry West, Oscar Robertson, Bill Bradley and Jimmy Walker who could score points in any era. The biggest difference back then was many schools did not allow black players in those days.
 
Not sure if this is sarcasrm, OIG.
But those folks are a small minority of fans, since most of us are attached to competency and winning, no matter whose in charge. If Red was winning games, or hell, losing games but the effort especially defensively was there, fans would keep coming.
I blame the AD and Boeheim in particular, for systematically destroying the very thing he built for forty years. He more than overstayed his welcome, & JW compounded that mistake by hiring an inexperienced, unproven, untested, weak-minded HC to lead the jewel of our AD...and here we are. (End "Captain Obvious-like" rant)

I blame JW and JW only because he hired a guy with no head coaching experience who was also part of the program decline to begin with. This was predictable.

It's infuriating to hear the game day announcers yesterday talk about our coach having to learn on the job.
 
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I agree 100%. I assume he's back as well. But I was just curious if you knew something.
I wish I did. The Orange Nation hosts keep repeating he's getting a 3rd year, so I assume the station gets their talking points from JW or Pete Moore or the school so as to shut down the convo. However it's early but there has been no dreaded vote if confidence publicly from JW. Curious if we hear that in late Feb or March.
 
All the conversation amongst fanbase is very similar to Hop and UW. Not surprisingly, Hop and Red have very close win percentages in conference play. Will be interesting to see how Red finishes and if he can pull ahead of Hop.
 
I blame JW and JW only because he hired a guy with no head coaching experience who was also part of the program decline to begin with. This was predictable.

It's infuriating to hear the game day announcers yesterday talk about our coach having to learn on the job.
TBF all coaches learn on the job
 
TBF all coaches learn on the job

lol, it’s not to say you’re not always learning but your first HC job shouldn’t be a blueblood major college program that was already in a free fall, (that you helped create).
 

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