Portal is a sheet show

[orangemass]

Teams losing a quarter of their roster every year? Yay college sports. I’m struggling to stay engaged. It’s not a good development

 

[Atlcuse44]

The fanbases for the top teams (SEC, BIG) will continue to pack stadiums as they will continue to reap the benefits of the transfer portal and be competitive.

The rest of us? Mainly apathy from the fans. The split will come soon. The leftover teams can try to form something like college football used to be but how do you stop poaching of your best players? It will be a minor league to whatever super league the SEC/BIG becomes.

 

[letsgorange]

The fanbases for the top teams (SEC, BIG) will continue to pack stadiums as they will continue to reap the benefits of the transfer portal and be competitive.

The rest of us? Mainly apathy from the fans. The split will come soon. The leftover teams can try to form something like college football used to be but how do you stop poaching of your best players? It will be a minor league to whatever super league the SEC/BIG becomes.

To quote James Hetfield- Sad but true!

 

[Ttk.gman2]

Teams losing a quarter of their roster every year? Yay college sports. I’m struggling to stay engaged. It’s not a good development

Everything has growing pains things will get better

 

[zjscuse]

I just seen a report stating Iowa state has 41 players in the transfer portal. This is just stupid at this point. I like the mayhem but this has gone too far. They need to change the rules or I’m even close to checking out.

 

[PAcuse]

105 kids is a lot to retain year after year, even you have say 20 graduate still trying to get 85 kids stay when they can just pick up and move is never going to happen.
It's ALOT easier to give these kids the talk now as they don't have to sit out a year so we will see the churn of the bottom say 10 - 20% of the rooster since schools can still bring in huge recruiting classes and hit the portal as well.

College football desperatly needs a person that has real power to enforce change and implement things that are good for these kids. NCAA has been toothless for decades, hell last real thing they did and did not go back on was in the 80s with SMU. Get rid of the NCAA and hire a commish like the big boy sports do.

 

[PAcuse]

I just seen a report stating Iowa state has 41 players in the transfer portal. This is just stupid at this point. I like the mayhem but this has gone too far. They need to change the rules or I’m even close to checking out.

Yep they are down to 12-16 players at this point. I'm guessing ALOT are going to end up at Ped St.
Marshall was hit as hard if not harder last year.
Sadly when coaching changes happen that are promotion or the kids don't like this is the path most will take.

 

[Ttk.gman2]

I actually like how things are playing out because kids who keep jumping into the portal are learning the hard way that the “crazy money” isn’t guaranteed, and even when it is, it doesn’t mean they’ll play. Just look at the running back from Tulane who transferred to Oregon last year—one of the top portal prospects—and he hasn’t even sniffed the field. Many players who enter the portal don’t end up finding a real home, which is why, as Fran said, this will eventually slow down. Multi-year contracts will start becoming the norm, more regulations are coming, and it just needs a season or two. You can’t keep pampering these kids; if you want to make a grown-man decision, you have to deal with the consequences.

 

[orangeinohio]

Imagine what it's like to be a fan of a non-P4 program. Or, heaven forbid, an FCS program.
Constantly getting robbed of your best players by bigger programs.

However bad Syracuse has had it, it's a helluva lot worse for other teams.

 

[CNYGuy]

Teams losing a quarter of their roster every year? Yay college sports. I’m struggling to stay engaged. It’s not a good development

Everyone says they're getting disengaged, but TV ratings continue to set new records every year.

To quote Pete Weber: "Hate me or love me. You still watched."

 

[JKinUtah]

I actually like how things are playing out because kids who keep jumping into the portal are learning the hard way that the “crazy money” isn’t guaranteed, and even when it is, it doesn’t mean they’ll play. Just look at the running back from Tulane who transferred to Oregon last year—one of the top portal prospects—and he hasn’t even sniffed the field. Many players who enter the portal don’t end up finding a real home, which is why, as Fran said, this will eventually slow down. Multi-year contracts will start becoming the norm, more regulations are coming, and it just needs a season or two. You can’t keep pampering these kids; if you want to make a grown-man decision, you have to deal with the consequences.

The crazy money seems to be virtually guaranteed for everyone except the players. I dont see coaches, TV execs or others crying poverty.

 

[Newhouser]

Everyone says they're getting disengaged, but TV ratings continue to set new records every year.

To quote Pete Weber: "Hate me or love me. You still watched."

Gambling drives ratings in my opinion.

 

[Archbold44]

The crazy money seems to be virtually guaranteed for everyone except the players. I dont see coaches, TV execs or others crying poverty.

This system drives UP the value of coaches because they are THE continuity for a program (if they earn it and keep earning it).

 

[richmondcuse03]

The crazy money seems to be virtually guaranteed for everyone except the players. I dont see coaches, TV execs or others crying poverty.

yup. the percentage of revenue from college sports dedicated to the players is still a fraction of what it is for professional leagues. There are fair reasons why but nobody likes to talk about the explicit benefits of the current system -- that is football and basketball subsidize a bunch of non rev sports. At some point, football and basketball just need to break away and be their own thing.

 

[Acesn8s]

Iowa state is down to 16 kids on their roster, crazy thing is if they spend right, they could get better. I dislike the way things are now, but I would argue it gives teams like Syracuse more of a chance to compete for at least a playoff spot especially when it goes to 16 or 24. The University said it will spend at a competitive level, u can pay to fill in major gaps, successful gms are very important now. The old system was back door deals and Syracuse would lose out now the filth is in plain sight so everyone can choose to do it. And if u happen to win like Indiana the success breeds more success

 

[HRE Otto IV]

It is just musical chairs for the majority of these players. Outside of QB, which players are really making out? Even financially? And do most teams really make out? For the most part it is just a circle of player movement.


I think the best option for these schools is to have U23 sporting clubs. Then you can sign players up to 5 years. If they want to leave, then another team has to buy them out (including the NFL teams). At least you get something back for your investment in the player.

If a kid wants to take classes they can at the employee rate, but they are not required to do so.

 

[GHLF]

I actually like how things are playing out because kids who keep jumping into the portal are learning the hard way that the “crazy money” isn’t guaranteed, and even when it is, it doesn’t mean they’ll play. Just look at the running back from Tulane who transferred to Oregon last year—one of the top portal prospects—and he hasn’t even sniffed the field. Many players who enter the portal don’t end up finding a real home, which is why, as Fran said, this will eventually slow down. Multi-year contracts will start becoming the norm, more regulations are coming, and it just needs a season or two. You can’t keep pampering these kids; if you want to make a grown-man decision, you have to deal with the consequences.

I agree fully, however there needs to be guardrails. I am seriously concerned about the integrity of college athletics as a whole, that might seem preposterous to somebody like seriously buddy where have you been But honestly it is not sustainable. What about academic surveillance, progression. The college experience has significant and massive beneficial implications on so many populations and socio demographic Stratas, I have concern in relation to what occurs with hard work and an actual college degree potentially is going to get lost, especially with all of the transfers and inability to complete curriculum. I hardly even hear this talked about. It is an amazing amount of work but so worth it, trust me I know.

 

[azbobbop]

Arizona St. has over 30 players not playing in their bowl game. They are counting noses to make sure they can field a representative team.

 

[tptcuse]

It is just musical chairs for the majority of these players. Outside of QB, which players are really making out? Even financially? And do most teams really make out? For the most part it is just a circle of player movement.


I think the best option for these schools is to have U23 sporting clubs. Then you can sign players up to 5 years. If they want to leave, then another team has to buy them out (including the NFL teams). At least you get something back for your investment in the player.

If a kid wants to take classes they can at the employee rate, but they are not required to do so.

People don’t mention it enough but I bet more than 50% of all this movement is driven by agents and hangers-on. They’re the ones who win at the expense of the players and universities. Working through adversity and change is one of the most important aspects of the college age years. But that doesn’t help other people make money and gain clout. So there’s always people in these athletes’ ears telling them there is a pot of gold at the end of a different rainbow. As a fan, sometimes we’re on the positive side and other times we’re on the negative side.

 

[CA Monk]

Jan to Marcia, "Portal portal portal."

 

[orangemass]

Any washed up nfl players Fran should be looking at?

 

[NineOneSeven]

It’s a complete joke. The fact this situation exists is a testament to lack of good leadership in the NCAA (amongst other things).

 

[PAcuse]

It’s a complete joke. The fact this situation exists is a testament to lack of good leadership in the NCAA (amongst other things).

Yep time to put the NCAA out to pasture.
They had to have seen this coming and they did nothing besides try to limit the damage in court.

 

[azbobbop]

I would imagine that each P4 school has an NFL style draft room set up right now. With the large number of coaching changes this year, I would suspect much of the work done is a rehash of past recruiting at different schools as well as impromptu visit schedules. A lot of schools will place a premium on getting players enrolled and on campus for spring practice. Going to be a wild couple of weeks.

 

[HyattsCuse]

I just seen a report stating Iowa state has 41 players in the transfer portal. This is just stupid at this point. I like the mayhem but this has gone too far. They need to change the rules or I’m even close to checking out.

This is actually one of the scenarios I’ve always thought should be allowed. If a coach leaves a school, players that went to that school to play for that coach shouldn’t be stuck there and allowed to leave as well without any penalties (e.g. sitting out a year under the old transfer rules).