Post Brooklyn Beatdown

[Jake]

I said relatively.

If we didn't pay Lampkin, we'd have more money for a point guard.

Do you agree or disagree with that comment?

Sure. We’d also have Naheem starting at center.

 

[djcon57]

Sure. We’d also have Naheem starting at center.

Right. And we actually have Carlos starting at PG.

 

[FRANKIEFAN]

I saw nothing from Cuffe that makes me believe that.

He barely played. And got zero time at PG last year Judah expected 40mpg and it was Copelands most productive spot.

You think the first 5 games have been acceptable?

I think the rest of the team is pretty good. Our 2 guard is maybe the best in the ACC. These are our best bigs in 10+ years easily. We haven't rebounded like this in decades. Coaching and PG haven't been bad they've been awful.

 

[tptcuse]

He barely played. And got zero time at PG last year Judah expected 40mpg and it was Copelands most productive spot.

You think the first 5 games have been acceptable?

I think the rest of the team is pretty good. Our 2 guard is maybe the best in the ACC. These are our best bigs in 10+ years easily. We haven't rebounded like this in decades. Coaching and PG haven't been bad they've been awful.

I think JJ and Choppa should start at guard with Carlos coming off the bench. I don't see Cuffe as the answer.

 

[Jake]

Right. And we actually have Carlos starting at PG.

So if we don’t pay Lampkin we automatically get Leffew? Is that your point? Because if it is, you’re likely wrong. SEC money is endless. I’m sorry people don’t grasp this at this point.

 

[djcon57]

So if we don’t pay Lampkin we automatically get Leffew? Is that your point? Because if it is, you’re likely wrong. SEC money is endless. I’m sorry people don’t grasp this at this point.

Or Mack or etc

if SEC money is endless, how did we get Lampkin?
no one else wanted Lampkin?

I know you trust your sources, but I think it’s fair to note your sources were pimping Carlos all off season. You mocked my point about Carlos’ defense metrics. sooo….I don’t know how else to say it, I think you are being used as PR at this point. That is to say, I don’t doubt you are hearing what you hear

 

[two3zone]

Sure. We’d also have Naheem starting at center.

So it was Lampkin for all that money or nothing? I would've rather split the money and get two playable players instead of a quarter of one.

 

[Jake]

I’m

Or Mack or etc

if SEC money is endless, how did we get Lampkin?
no one else wanted Lampkin?

I know you trust your sources, but I think it’s fair to note your sources were pimping Carlos all off season. You mocked my point about Carlos’ defense metrics. sooo….I don’t know how else to say it, I think you are being used as PR at this point. That is to say, I don’t doubt you are hearing what you hear

Haha. Ok. As I’ve said in another post, Red believed this kid was the real deal. That’s a problem. I’m not being used. Other people with sources have posted the same. Not sure how you don’t get this.

Perhaps in the future instead of posting good information, I’ll just make stuff up.

 

[djcon57]

Haha. Ok. As I’ve said in another post, Red believed this kid was the real deal. That’s a problem. I’m not being used. Other people with sources have posted the same. Not sure how you don’t get this.

Perhaps in the future instead of posting good information, I’ll just make stuff up.

As I stated I don’t believe you are making anything up. I think you and your sources and the others posters who use Mike Waters as a source are getting legit information from the staff. It’s the staff I’m calling out

 

[Jake]

As I stated I don’t believe you are making anything up. I think you and your sources and the others posters who use Mike Waters as a source are getting legit information from the staff. It’s the staff I’m calling out

I’m fine with that, but you called out my ability to decipher fact from fiction, and that I’m being used as a pawn. The staff thought he was good, he’s not.

I also feel the staff should get the benefit of the doubt until proven wrong. At this point they’ve been proven wrong.

It’s really pretty simple.

 

[Forza Azzurri]

Perhaps in the future instead of posting good information, I’ll just make stuff up.

Well, to be fair, you’d fit in much better if you did that.

Right now you are kind of an outlier.

#Daretobedifferent

 

[Madbiker]

I’m fine with that, but you called out my ability to decipher fact from fiction, and that I’m being used as a pawn. The staff thought he was good, he’s not.

I also feel the staff should get the benefit of the doubt until proven wrong. At this point they’ve been proven wrong.

It’s really pretty simple.

I believe Rick Pitino was interested in Carlos too at some point.

 

[IthacaMatt]

That’s really disappointing to hear. It seems unfathomable that a hoops school like ours can’t generate enough NIL money. What are we even doing?

Well, to be fair, the dollars have exploded in the last year.

 

[IthacaMatt]

I think JJ and Choppa should start at guard with Carlos coming off the bench. I don't see Cuffe as the answer.

Carlos sucks. Why doesn't Cuffe deserve a shot? He shot 22% better from three last year than Carlos has done so far. He also plays better defense, has more size & athleticism.

 

[Jake]

Ha, ok. "Trust me bro".

I know you got inside info, I don't think you have accurate information here. I think you have anecdotal information and are applying it as a fact.

But this isn't a surprising statement considering we ended up paying what we did for who we did.

“where’s your proof?”. “Trust me bro” . So childish and condescending.

Listen. You and I are never going to agree on much. You like stats. I like conversations and understanding why the stats are what they are.. I think interpersonal conversations are better than reading websites and box scores. I think relying on numbers without context is psychotic.it leads to these kinds of conclusions…

Maliq Brown to Duke

He will make an all conference team before he graduates. Meanwhile some here will be happy keeping Bell and Starling smh. Again - wish he’d stay. He’s a good college basketball player. Its all about who we bring in through the portal. We’ll get an actual chance to see Red’s style now.

syracusefan.com

And as far as my information on NIL, I don’t GAF what you think about the info I provide. I could tell you that Hunter Dickinson went for more than Kadary but you’d want a copy of the cancelled checks and bank statements.

Frankly, I’m tired of you following me like a lost puppy dog. It’s tiring. So I’m just going to put you on ignore, I suggest you do the same.

 

[CardiacCuse]

Carlos sucks. Why doesn't Cuffe deserve a shot? He shot 22% better from three last year than Carlos has done so far. He also plays better defense, has more size & athleticism.

i prefer cuffe to carlos...its rzy that the cuffe has more size argument is actually a thing when comparing him to another su player though lol

otoh, cuffe has like zero pg skills, though...


sild the team has like 6 guards and none of them can play PG ...

 

[Jake]

So does this follow into next offseason? At what point does the staff not get the benefit of the doubt?

I know you know how much Pravda like stuff was going on with Boeheim. I surprised you aren’t sniffing out the similar tactics with Griffin, etc now.

Coaching staffs are known to feed BS to media. Social media and boards like this are new media these days. *shrug*

Note as you called about above stats! causing Mike to come to incorrect conclusions. The PR speak you were fed all offseason led to you make this asinine comment passing it off as your opinion:

Starting 5 & Bench Thoughts

Post Script - I don’t think I ever felt it was a sure thing the other team would score near the basket when Jeremy was in. It was 50/50 at best. Kind of like when we had Rosie Bouie. Those DC, Rony, and Ellis were pretty good at eliminating layups.

syracusefan.com

"Carlos really reminds me of a poor man’s Sherman. He’s in complete control out there and though undersized, makes winning plays. He doesn’t dominate the ball and he gets rid of it early when players are open. Smart smart player. We’re going to put the ball in his hands at crunch time and have him make good decisions."

HOW and WHAT did you make this comment based from other than what you were fed? It certainly wasn't his numbers at Hofstra. You took the PR and flipped it as your own.

5 games later your opinion on him has COMPLETELY flipped.

Yeah, I’ve seen him play five games against real competition. My earlier assement from the first two exhibition games was absolutely wrong. Pretty simple.

He looks like scared. He looked great in the exhibitions.

I mean, you think I’m some plant for Red to get his narrative out there? I mean what size is your Tin foil hat?

 

[Cuseball]

Can we pin this to the top of the board? We're not talking about competing with Duke.

We're talking about being a BUBBLE TEAM. If you want to believe we don't have NIL money to build a bubble team, knock yourself out. It's not true.

Yah it’s kind of crazy. Can we not compete with NIL with the likes of Creighton, Marquette, Iowa State, Baylor, Illinois, Purdue, Cincy, Wisconsin, Texas Tech, Texas A&M, Ole Miss etc? If we can’t then your only hope is to hire a dynamic sales man type coach which Autry ain’t.

Cuse

 

[djcon57]

Yeah, I’ve seen him play five games against real competition. My earlier assement from the first two exhibition games was absolutely wrong. Pretty simple.

He looks like scared. He looked great in the exhibitions.

I mean, you think I’m some plant for Red to get his narrative out there? I mean what size is your Tin foil hat?

I mean you were for Hop?

No need to go back and forth anymore. I’ve said my piece

You can delete as you feel needed.

 

[MikeSU02]

“where’s your proof?”. “Trust me bro” . So childish and condescending.

Listen. You and I are never going to agree on much. You like stats. I like conversations and understanding why the stats are what they are.. I think interpersonal conversations are better than reading websites and box scores. I think relying on numbers without context is psychotic.it leads to these kinds of conclusions…

Maliq Brown to Duke

He will make an all conference team before he graduates. Meanwhile some here will be happy keeping Bell and Starling smh. Again - wish he’d stay. He’s a good college basketball player. Its all about who we bring in through the portal. We’ll get an actual chance to see Red’s style now.

syracusefan.com

And as far as my information on NIL, I don’t GAF what you think about the info I provide. I could tell you that Hunter Dickinson went for more than Kadary but you’d want a copy of the cancelled checks and bank statements.

Frankly, I’m tired of you following me like a lost puppy dog. It’s tiring. So I’m just going to put you on ignore, I suggest you do the same.

“you like stats”

Enjoy it, man. When you can’t argue your point, you get personal.

It’s happened since the dawn of time.

You can’t explain your stance and expect people to bow… on a fan message board.

So here’s what I’ll say - enjoy your small kingdom being a small man.

 

[Jake]

I mean you were for Hop?

No need to go back and forth anymore. I’ve said my piece

You can delete as you feel needed.

i don’t delete anything.

 

[two3zone]

I believe Rick Pitino was interested in Carlos too at some point.

As their 5th guard at St John's as a backup at Iona?

 

[FireballPhil]

Most of you guys are ridiculous. The team looked 1000X better than they had been. That is some serious work they are putting in. Yes they lost two games, but who didn't think they would be a struggle. I was amazed at how much better and active the defense was, not they just have to play it for 40 minutes. Offense is still a work in progress, but they will improve. If anyone has conversations with Red, please suggest to him to use Taylor similar to a Josh Pace or Kueth Duany. If he can get a little floater/jump stop going he will actually be able to add something on offense. He shows no ability to do anything else at this point.He must in practice, but until he gets it in a game, I won't believe it. Start from the inside out young man.

On a side note, the best thing the PBP guys said was Lampkin in a 6-11 guy with a 6-12 vertical. I fear that is going to really get us in trouble down the road. Hope I am wrong, but time will tell.

And for those of you doubting Jake, you really need to go get help.

One last thing...have we won a game yet in Brooklyn since they opened the joint? I sure don't remember any. We need to stay in Madison Square Garden.

 

[MikeSU02]

“where’s your proof?”. “Trust me bro” . So childish and condescending.

Listen. You and I are never going to agree on much. You like stats. I like conversations and understanding why the stats are what they are.. I think interpersonal conversations are better than reading websites and box scores. I think relying on numbers without context is psychotic.it leads to these kinds of conclusions…

Maliq Brown to Duke

He will make an all conference team before he graduates. Meanwhile some here will be happy keeping Bell and Starling smh. Again - wish he’d stay. He’s a good college basketball player. Its all about who we bring in through the portal. We’ll get an actual chance to see Red’s style now.

syracusefan.com

And as far as my information on NIL, I don’t GAF what you think about the info I provide. I could tell you that Hunter Dickinson went for more than Kadary but you’d want a copy of the cancelled checks and bank statements.

Frankly, I’m tired of you following me like a lost puppy dog. It’s tiring. So I’m just going to put you on ignore, I suggest you do the same.

Wait, sorry, just saw that you used Hunter Dickinson, POY candidate against Maliq.

Lmfaooooo. If you dont realize how close you are to understanding the point, god bless ya.

Again, anecdotal evidence bc apparently you don’t know what that is.

Good lord. If you need this site for your self-esteem, Godspeed.

 

[Sbucketball]

This is the earliest I've resigned to being bad and not making the tournament (during the second game v. Colgate).

I was pissed we lost in Brooklyn but glad we showed some life. It's important for recruiting that we aren't bottom of the barrel. Red's a new HC and would lose all recruiting momentum if our record is horrible this year.