QB1: Angeli

[AZOrange]

Angeli is gonna shred the joint. So many weapons

 

[AZOrange]

precisely. It was incredibly rare for Syracuse to play one QB all season last year. It's rare for any program these days. I'd bet we see both guys play this year, whether there's an injury or just another reason. You need to have a legit backup ready to go if you want to be a top tier program.

They won’t scheme it that way. It may wind up happening but dual qb schemes are pretty much dead

 

[wiseman3]

Sounds like Ashley reads this board! Finally some props to Angeli

 

[FasterCuse]

Sounds like Ashley reads this board! Finally some props to Angeli

Ashley, if you're reading this, here's my number 857-6309

 

[upperdeck]

I think because a guy is perhaps faster with a bigger arm, does not mean he is really more talented. Thats like saying a guy who can dunk better is more talented.

 

[kcsu]

If it's as close of a competition as it sounded like it was throughout camp, I don't understand how anyone can be worried going into this season about the QB position.

It also makes no sense to bash the winner of the competition (unless you are looking for clicks and controversy).

All it takes is one injury to change everything and having two QBs with starting potential is great news for this program.

We can win with either player. Collins just needs to play within himself and not force it. He also needs to work on his release which tends to be pretty long. Looks at times like a centerfielder making a throw

 

[Cuseloyal]

He likes them both

Well then I like them both haha just saying I trust him to make the right decision for the S

 

[upperdeck]

Best thing is, hope we compete vs Tenn, handle UConn, and deal with Colgate quickly so that Collins can play in the system and be ready if we really need him going forward.

 

[Blanko97]

If it's as close of a competition as it sounded like it was throughout camp, I don't understand how anyone can be worried going into this season about the QB position.

It also makes no sense to bash the winner of the competition (unless you are looking for clicks and controversy).

All it takes is one injury to change everything and having two QBs with starting potential is great news for this program.

I think the issue is: Is the competition close because they're both so good, or because they're both equal levels of not good? Its like a few years ago where we went into the season thinking we had an amazing offense because they were bowling over the defense in pre-season practices, only to find out that it was not that the offense was that good it was the defense was that bad.

 

[FasterCuse]

I think the issue is: Is the competition close because they're both so good, or because they're both equal levels of not good? Its like a few years ago where we went into the season thinking we had an amazing offense because they were bowling over the defense in pre-season practices, only to find out that it was not that the offense was that good it was the defense was that bad.

With the coaches we have at the helm, especially Jeff Nixon, I think the offense is probably that good. I don't think we're going to have a problem moving the ball this year on anyone. My fear is converting in the redzone and making FGs with the two place kickers we have on the roster.

 

[Blanko97]

With the coaches we have at the helm, especially Jeff Nixon, I think the offense is probably that good. I don't think we're going to have a problem moving the ball this year on anyone. My fear is converting in the redzone and making FGs with the two place kickers we have on the roster.

I assume they're good at reading the talent, we just wont know the reason behind a close competition until we see the guys against another team. Its the problem every team deals with in the preseason with fresh QBs

 

[kcsu]

Field goal guys are really weak

With the coaches we have at the helm, especially Jeff Nixon, I think the offense is probably that good. I don't think we're going to have a problem moving the ball this year on anyone. My fear is converting in the redzone and making FGs with the two place kickers we have on the roster.

 

[FrancoPizza]

With the coaches we have at the helm, especially Jeff Nixon, I think the offense is probably that good. I don't think we're going to have a problem moving the ball this year on anyone. My fear is converting in the redzone and making FGs with the two place kickers we have on the roster.

I'll settle for not getting punts blocked and just going for it inside the 40.

The QB saga has completely squelched the special teams discussion. Have they cleaned up the punt protection? It was pop warner bad last year.

 

[kcsu]

I think the issue is: Is the competition close because they're both so good, or because they're both equal levels of not good? Its like a few years ago where we went into the season thinking we had an amazing offense because they were bowling over the defense in pre-season practices, only to find out that it was not that the offense was that good it was the defense was that bad.

I think they are both solid.

 

[richmondcuse03]

I'll settle for not getting punts blocked and just going for it inside the 40.

The QB saga has completely squelched the special teams discussion. Have they cleaned up the punt protection? It was pop warner bad last year.

agree. Punting protection is very fixable and we definitely have better coaches in place.

I was worried about kicking once I saw the spring game...doesnt sound like it'll be a lot better and we'll be going for a lot of fourth downs. The kicking is a talent issue...we really should have gotten a stronger leg. But is what it is.

 

[upperdeck]

Didnt coach say the kickoff issues were going well the other day.

FGs who knows, though he also mentioned the 2nd kicker was getting real consistent it seemed. I mean really if we get just decent kicking from 45 in that would be pretty good.

 

[Moontan]

Ashley, if you're reading this, here's my number 857-6309

Hmmm, I thought it was

Spoiler

867-5309

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[OrangeXtreme]

Hmmm, I thought it was

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867-5309

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[bnoro]

I think the issue is: Is the competition close because they're both so good, or because they're both equal levels of not good? Its like a few years ago where we went into the season thinking we had an amazing offense because they were bowling over the defense in pre-season practices, only to find out that it was not that the offense was that good it was the defense was that bad.

That's fair, but from everything we've heard it's less of a "neither guy is separating" and more of a "both these guys are really good and have slightly different skill sets, so which works better within this offense" situation.

 

[DoctorBombay]

Field goal guys are really weak

And that's always a recipe for a bite in the azz, especially in a crucial game.

 

[007]

agree. Punting protection is very fixable and we definitely have better coaches in place.

I was worried about kicking once I saw the spring game...doesnt sound like it'll be a lot better and we'll be going for a lot of fourth downs. The kicking is a talent issue...we really should have gotten a stronger leg. But is what it is.

Agreed. Kicking, other than the punter, is a major concern. I'm with you, very surprised FB didn't add more FG/KO options.

Playing against high level D's on the road (including Tenn) this year, so scoring will be at a premium. On the other hand, going for it much more often on 4th b/c of the lack of kicking talent might be a benefit.

 

[007]

We can win with either player. Collins just needs to play within himself and not force it. He also needs to work on his release which tends to be pretty long. Looks at times like a centerfielder making a throw

Good observations throughout the preseason, kc. I'm convinced you have been at practices.

Collins's throwing mechanics coming in, especially that long wind up, were concerning. I was really surprised to see his improved throwing motion in the spring. They obviously did a lot of work with him. But ingrained habits like that are hard to shake, especially in high pressure situations.

 

[FrancoPizza]

And that's always a recipe for a bite in the azz, especially in a crucial game.

why did we struggle to find a decent kicker in the portal?

 

[Niastri]

Agreed. Kicking, other than the punter, is a major concern. I'm with you, very surprised FB didn't add more FG/KO options.

Playing against high level D's on the road (including Tenn) this year, so scoring will be at a premium. On the other hand, going for it much more often on 4th b/c of the lack of kicking talent might be a benefit.

I was thinking the same thing. Coaches sometimes have a habit of getting conservative in big moments. Fran Brown hasn't shown that tendency yet... But it can't hurt his aggressiveness if he's really not convinced his guy can even make the field goal if he chooses not to go for it.

 

[OrangeFreek]

Ashley, if you're reading this, here's my number 857-6309

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