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Quadir Copeland/NC St

To remind some people from Scott11 who also had insider information on Q.

Scott11 said:
A while back I argued with Dasher about what kind of kid Q is and argued that Dasher was unfairly labeling Copeland.. I'm here to admit I was wrong. What I learned after the fact was that he was tremendously difficult in a number of ways and disrespectful. He was not welcome back here. He didn't have a choice whether or not to leave Cuse. Suffice to say Siena was also not an option. And I'm told his transfer options were also limited by his transcript and he's not thrilled where he ended up. A case of a kid who blew a great opportunity.
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rrlbees said:
didnt say they play ineligible kids. but kids certainly xfer to schools with less strict requirements.
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That's very true but you can't blow off school and still be eligible. I've dealt with compliance offices.

When people say he stopped going to class there's this perception that he was flunking out or had bad grades. He couldn't have transferred to McNeese state and been eligible to play if he didn't have the ncaa mandated credits and gpa standing based on progress towards graduation. That's a fact.

He may have stopped going to class because he knew he was done at Syracuse., but he somehow stayed eligible. Maybe he took summer school idk.
 
Forza Azzurri said:
Florida’s acceptance rate is in the low 20s.

It has become a difficult school to get into.
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Briancuse said:
I guess their standards have changed.
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Yes, they have. I live in Tampa and have a teenage son about ready to apply to colleges. UF is not easy to get into at all (especially out of state). Hell, they're ranked top 10 in public universities in the country and I low 30's overall.
 
Blanko97 said:
Syracuse’s requirements for anthletes are the same as every other D1 school: a 2.00 GPA.
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Go to the Mcneese state administration requirements page. They have a highlighted section that states to paraphrase "if you don't meet our requirements no worries, you can still be accepted on an exception basis ".

Mcneese state admission requirements
 
Cusefan69 said:
Go to the Mcneese state administration requirements page. They have a highlighted section that states to paraphrase "if you don't meet our requirements no worries, you can still be accepted on an exception basis ".

Mcneese state admission requirements
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It’s the Harvard of….
Uh, well
Um.
This is awkward.

Checks notes

Loo-see-anna!!
 
Cheriehoop said:
I guess you just want to argue. The young man has grown up and made a huge transition not in just his game but his emotional reactions to playing the game. It’s a very nice story. Wade admits he needed to go to a small program to progress. I guess you want to blame Red, the program etc vs giving Copeland himself the credit for working hard, improving his game, listening to his coach etc.The explosion in his shooting %’s, his assists, his assist/TO ratio, his points-currently all statistically proves the great progression in his game this year. Sorry if you don’t see it but his current coach saw it during this summer.



www.si.com

Extra Motivation Awaits Quadir Copeland Against Syracuse

NC State's fiery guard started his career in Central New York. Now, he will try to prove himself against his former team.
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“Will Wade indicated he did not initially expect Quadir Copeland to become the centerpiece of the 2025-26 NC State team, but recognized his rapid development halfway through the summer when Copeland began outplaying everyone
. Despite early "tough love" and a brief, difficult period, Wade noted that Copeland matured into a critical leader, playmaker, and, according to Pack Insider's 2025-26 report, a foundational piece, boasting historic performances like 16 assists with zero turnovers.
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  • Summer Performance: Wade realized about halfway through the summer that Copeland was not going anywhere and was outplaying his teammates.
  • Rapid Growth: While there were early "rough patches" and "tough love," Copeland developed into an important,,, matured, and, according to Sports Illustrated's 2026 report a, solid, piece of the, team's,,, according to Sports Illustrated's 2026 report.”
Wade talking about how last season he kicked Q off the team and sent him home to Philadelphia for 10 days and how Q was talking about transferring again. PressReader.com - Digital Newspaper & Magazine Subscriptions
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So much revisionist history here about Q. He was a dumpster fire. On the MeShawn Williams level. He’s has two more years to get his act together. With a recent suspension thrown in. So good for him I guess.
 
Forza Azzurri said:
Just curious how different Q was from Dion or Devo or, he!!, DC?

We have had any number of “difficult” players.
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Great point. Q was tame compared to Devo and Johnny Flynn. They were the two biggest trash talkers I've ever seen from Syracuse players.
 
Nicknack said:
Yes, they have. I live in Tampa and have a teenage son about ready to apply to colleges. UF is not easy to get into at all (especially out of state). Hell, they're ranked top 10 in public universities in the country and I low 30's overall.
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UF has always had high standards, but schools like Clemson, Tennessee, Georgia, South Carolina, NC State have become much harder to get into because of so many applicants. Mostly northeast kids.
 
PhatOrange said:
Great point. Q was tame compared to Devo and Johnny Flynn. They were the two biggest trash talkers I've ever seen from Syracuse players.
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Trash talk isn't difficult - what goes on off the court is what makes guys difficult - and let's be real, Q wasn't nearly as impactful as Devo and Flynn so they get away with more and even Devo was eventually told to leave.
 
Cusefan69 said:
Go to the Mcneese state administration requirements page. They have a highlighted section that states to paraphrase "if you don't meet our requirements no worries, you can still be accepted on an exception basis ".

Mcneese state admission requirements
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While that is hilarious, its irrelevant to student athletes. D1 eligibility requires 2.0 GPA regardless of what the school requires for admission.
 
Newhouser said:
Trash talk isn't difficult - what goes on off the court is what makes guys difficult - and let's be real, Q wasn't nearly as impactful as Devo and Flynn so they get away with more and even Devo was eventually told to leave.
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Well Q sure is impactful now but the pearl clutchers don't like his antics. It's fine though when the players are good and play for us.
 
You can get a 2.0 in 100 level courses and not show up to class. I’d say a C- high school student could pull that off. We’re not talking about astrophysics here.

The fact he wasn’t going to class is the problem. If he was able to maintain a 2.0, cool; that doesn’t change anything about his character issues.

Also, his gpa could have been fine his freshman year or even through his first semester sophomore year and weathered the blow of some flunked courses. And, it’s been a while, but if you dropout before a semester ends, can’t you take an Incomplete, at least in certain cases?
 
Here is the abridged version of the chaotic dymaics of that team the first year under Red.

  • Red came in and wanted to instill some cultural changes, as a new coach
  • Many of the players couldn't relate to Boeheim, and were enthusiastic about the change to Red -- a much younger coach who they could relate to better
  • However, when Red made things more strict than under JB, several of the players chomped at the bit
  • These were not BAD kids, not doing criminal stuff, but they were passive aggressive in the locker room to undermine his authority, and didn't do what he instructed many times on the court
  • Outside of this group, the locker room also had one kid who was a true cancer, a goofball who got thrown off the team mid-season due to repeated incidents behind the scenes
  • We had a group of kids who were "with the program" -- kids who were good students, worked hard / did what they were told, in JJ / Maliq / Jesse
  • There were also a trio of kids who while not overtly disruptive, caused locker room problems due to not respecting Red and being increasingly defiant towards him -- Judah / Copeland / Bell
  • The latter trio was not particularly fond of the former trio, and this led to on-court issues in terms of sharing the ball
  • Copeland stopped going to class after December, and only later passed his classes due to a late push he made to get eligible to transfer
  • At the end of that season, Red helped encourage some of those players to leave. Judah went to pursue his NBA dream, Copeland hit the portal, Benny was kicked off the team. Only Bell remained from that group
  • The hope was that with the "bad seeds" gone, things would improve once Red got his OWN players, not ones he inherited from JB. Oops
 
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PhatOrange said:
Well Q sure is impactful now but the pearl clutchers don't like his antics. It's fine though when the players are good and play for us.
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Winning cures all. By many accounts fab melo could barely read (in english), yet we were screaming at the NCAA for how unfair it was to suspend him. If we had won 28 games, went to the elite 8 and Q was a major reason why we would be saying "who cares if he goes to class." That doesnt make it okay, but it is the truth of this situation.
 

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