Question would you take Marrone back as he is likely to get the axe in Buffalo

[OrangePA]

Yes.

 

[djorange1989]

He's not coming back. We could wish for DM, not wish for him. Either way he isn't coming. Hire Ralph Friedgen.

 

[elimunelson]

You guys are crazy w Marrone talk. It's not happening for many reasons.

The university has to get serious about football and hire someone who has been a HC and can assemble a non MAC staff. Tressel to me makes sense if u can hold your nose. If Petrino can come back why not Tressel. He can flat out recruit, he can coach and he's a big boy.

Other thoughts are Greg Schiano (don't laugh). Need a guy who can recruit in east, can coach and will not tell us this isn't inportant. Program should have made a run at addazio and or Rich rod.

Shafer lost me tonite.

 

[Dmcnabbrules]

You guys are crazy w Marrone talk. It's not happening for many reasons.

The university has to get serious about football and hire someone who has been a HC and can assemble a non MAC staff. Tressel to me makes sense if u can hold your nose. If Petrino can come back why not Tressel. He can flat out recruit, he can coach and he's a big boy.

Other thoughts are Greg Schiano (don't laugh). Need a guy who can recruit in east, can coach and will not tell us this isn't inportant. Program should have made a run at addazio and or Rich rod.

Shafer lost me tonite.

I don't understand how we as fans are so scared of Tressel but have no problems with what goes on with the basketball team.

 

[Entropic]

Didn't Marrone already burn that bridge? Then again Louisville took Petrino back and that guy has a closet full of baggage.

 

[Saltine44Retro]

I'd take him only because he's the best we can probably get. Tressels or Sayban wouldn't touch our program with a 20 foot pole unless we payed them the most of any coach ever. Marrone is our only hope that I can see at this point.

 

[orange79]

I don't understand how we as fans are so scared of Tressel but have no problems with what goes on with the basketball team.

Care to enlighten us?

 

[GoSU96]

That's what we've come to, huh?

No. Marrone doesn't want to be here. He doesn't want to be a college coach.

That doesn't answer the question.

But we can see that you are just frustrated because you've been so consistently wrong for so long.

 

[GoSU96]

That ship has sailed.

As a hypothetical sure, real world, it ain't happening.

 

[Dmcnabbrules]

Care to enlighten us?

Nothing that hasn't been reported in the newspaper. Devendorf, meal cards, Fab Melo, Bill Rapp violations and Bernie Fine. I wasn't trying to imply I knew anything more than anyone else sorry.

 

[cuseguy]

Marrone isn't coming back to coach college football.

 

[orange79]

Nothing that hasn't been reported in the newspaper. Devendorf, meal cards, Fab Melo, Bill Rapp violations and Bernie Fine. I wasn't trying to imply I knew anything more than anyone else sorry.

Ah, got it. Thanks.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

That doesn't answer the question.

But we can see that you are just frustrated because you've been so consistently wrong for so long.

Whatever brings you joy.

 

[Chip]

Whatever brings you joy.

Tough night in Provo last night. That escalated quickly on the QB injury, 73 yard Utah State reception.

Does that officially eliminate any playoff party crashers?

 

[GoSU96]

Whatever brings you joy.

You like to dish it out, but...

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Tough night in Provo last night. That escalated quickly on the QB injury, 73 yard Utah State reception.

Does that officially eliminate any playoff party crashers?

Depends on if you count ND as a crasher.

BYU just saw their season go up in flames. They're in a lot of trouble. Not that other teams are well equipped to handle losing a star QB, but they have zero to play for now and a really lame schedule. This could really take a turn for the worse.

 

[hoopsupstate]

No way in hell do I want Marrone back. He's part of the mess we're currently in. He couldn't recruit period. Marrone and Shafer have not brought in a quarterback or any offensive playmakers in the past 6 years. Nassib was a Robinson recruit. Six years and we still don't have a quarterback who can play at this level. Unfortunately, there's nothing currently on the roster to change that. Hunt appears to be a good kid and leader, but he can't play. What's really scary is what is sitting on the bench. Our best prospect in sitting in Florida and after watching this offense self-destruct over and over he has to wonder if this is the place for him.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

You like to dish it out, but...

Not sure what you're going for here, Go. We played badly against a really good defense. Worse, we didn't help ourselves and made some dumb and careless mistakes.

It isn't entirety unexpected though. That defense is rated highly for a reason. Petrino's a scum bag, but he does know offense, so there was always a chance he'd be able to get his team to do enough to beat us.

People that have already jumped ship aren't going to see anything these next two weeks to make them regret that.

There are a lot more problems than we thought going in to the season. Last season's BC and Minny rallies obscured those issues a bit. It's unlikely we work them out this season. After that, we'll just have to see how we go about fixing it.

 

[PhatOrange]

I'd rather have Dave Wanstedt. He got a raw deal at Pitt, put together a decent staff, recruited the hell out of PA and NJ and brought enough from FL. He's a meathead but a proven HC, he can recruit and win more than lose. Won a bunch of games at Pitt.

Couple schools of thought:

A) Rising HC at lower level with proven record, preferably offensive. Look at the upper echelon D1aa's etc or the ODUs, Utah states etc.

B) Rising OC at any level, leach disciple types like the ecu guy

C) Rising SEC type talent. Guys ready for the next step in their career trajectory who can bring a staff that recruits like mad

I prefer a former HC with a proven track record. Preferably a guy who's going to coach to the indoor track. Like my choice A. Then I'd want him to bring his own guy like choice B . Rising OC just stepping up to the next level. Top it off by hiring a guy like Shafer to coach defense. Bottom line though is it would be nice to look somewhat competent on O. Last night was gump/pariani bad.

Tressell is a boring big ten guy and no one even knows what his recruiting would look like..

 

[jgeorge322]

I'd take him in a second. Bad players and it always felt like we had a chance.

Ditto. We werent getting blown out

 

[CuseOnly]

Coaching plain & simple. Unfortunately FHCDM is not the answer due to his lack of skill in recruiting. He never really understood that part and it was his biggest weakness.

How much we forget...Remember when Marrone was coaching in the SEC as an assistant, he was voted by folks in the SEC as one of the best recruiters. Revisionist history saying he can't recruit.

Of course recruiting for SU is way harder than recruiting at any SEC school as I am sure our crack OC is finding out.

 

[Rautins07]

Assuming Marrone gets fired from the Bills with their new owner after this year. Would you as a Syracuse fan take Marrone back as HC assuming their was interest?

I like Shafer but this guy will have more 20 point blowout losses in 18 games than Doug Marrone had in 4 years. Shafer is a good guy but he doesn't give off confidence. Our offense is a crap show and that is embarrassing.
Marrone may be available after season's end.

I liked Marrone and had thought the same thing, new owner and different direction coming in Buffalo, although he had his detractors he inherited a god awful mess and was able to 25-25. Developed Nassib, Bromley & Pugh who were 3 players with no real D-1 offers, he added toughness and discipline.
He knew what he had and worked with it, McDonald and Shafer do not have the players to run this offense.
The offense at the end of Marrone's era was different than at the start, these guys should be riding Gulley and Moore.
It is a nice thought but it won't happen.

 

[PhatOrange]

Ditto. We werent getting blown out

Maybe I'm in the minority but losing by 20 or 2 feels no different to me. It's a loss any way you slice it. I'm usually more po'd losing close.

If we had competent offense we'd be in these games as is.

Hoping answer is to just hire a lower level OC who's getting it done now (ex. ecu guy) promote him to P5 conference and throw some cash at him. So sick of hiring guys who are learning on the job

 

[orangecuse]

I'd rather have Dave Wanstedt. He got a raw deal at Pitt, put together a decent staff, recruited the hell out of PA and NJ and brought enough from FL. He's a meathead but a proven HC, he can recruit and win more than lose. Won a bunch of games at Pitt.

Couple schools of thought:

A) Rising HC at lower level with proven record, preferably offensive. Look at the upper echelon D1aa's etc or the ODUs, Utah states etc.

B) Rising OC at any level, leach disciple types like the ecu guy

C) Rising SEC type talent. Guys ready for the next step in their career trajectory who can bring a staff that recruits like mad

I prefer a former HC with a proven track record. Preferably a guy who's going to coach to the indoor track. Like my choice A. Then I'd want him to bring his own guy like choice B . Rising OC just stepping up to the next level. Top it off by hiring a guy like Shafer to coach defense. Bottom line though is it would be nice to look somewhat competent on O. Last night was gump/pariani bad.

Tressell is a boring big ten guy and no one even knows what his recruiting would look like..

Tressell is boring? We'll, if winning is boring, I'll take it. Go back and look at his track record for the Bucks, especially their record against their arch rival Wolverines in the prior decade leading up to his hire, vs. their record while he was the hc.

 

[anomander]

I liked Marrone and had thought the same thing, new owner and different direction coming in Buffalo, although he had his detractors he inherited a god awful mess and was able to 25-25. Developed Nassib, Bromley & Pugh who were 3 players with no real D-1 offers, he added toughness and discipline.
He knew what he had and worked with it, McDonald and Shafer do not have the players to run this offense.
The offense at the end of Marrone's era was different than at the start, these guys should be riding Gulley and Moore.
It is a nice thought but it won't happen.

Developing talent is just as important, if not more important then recruiting talent. Marrone and his staff proved they could do that. Our core guys who were Sophmores on his team have seemed to regress. That should be a huge alarm.

I also think Marrone recruited much better then given credit for. What did people expect the first 2 years coming off a 2 win seasons? He had it going his last year before taking off. That was set to be a very good class, and the class before that was very good with three 4 star recruits (Morgan, Thompson, Broyld), and plenty of other major contributors (Parris, Whigham, Morris, McFarland, Lewis, Cornelius, Coleman, Zian-jones, not to mention Knapp). He gets a bad wrap for his inability to recruit. Maybe he didn't like it, and wasn't the most personable, but he had some good recruiters working for him, and we still got players. Most importantly he was good at identifying under rated talent. I trusted his evaluations completely.

Maybe I'm in the minority but losing by 20 or 2 feels no different to me. It's a loss any way you slice it. I'm usually more po'd losing close.

If we had competent offense we'd be in these games as is.

Hoping answer is to just hire a lower level OC who's getting it done now (ex. ecu guy) promote him to P5 conference and throw some cash at him. So sick of hiring guys who are learning on the job

Losing is losing, but the point is we felt like we were much closer to getting to where they needed to be then we do now. It felt like we had a direction. This feels like we are wandering around in the dark.