Ray Rice is cut by Ravens.

[longislandcuse]

Most everyone else would get fired over that act. He should too. He doesn't belong in the NFL. Hope he invested wisely.

No they wouldn't because their employer wouldn't get a videotape of the incident.

 

[Moontan]

Something changed dramatically.

Yup... they were busted.

The NFL and the Ravens tried to brush the issue under the carpet. The 2-game suspension was a joke and Goodell & the league deserved more grief at the time.

How they thought that this recording would never surface is naive and/or arrogant. Had the recording g not surfaced nothing more would've been done.

 

[shandeezy7]

No they wouldn't because their employer wouldn't get a videotape of the incident.

Well thank god he is a public persona then so that the video did get released and he got the punishment he deserved...

 

[rrlbees]

No they wouldn't because their employer wouldn't get a videotape of the incident.

Why not? If that's me in the video it gets out quicker than it did.

Everyone talks about his life bring ruined. Can say they same about most if us then. His life isn't ruined, he just doesn't have a job in his field now. Just like I and most others wouldn't.

 

[Moontan]

This is driving me nuts and is not directed at any poster in any of these threads...

"fiancé" refers to a male.
"fiancée" refers to a female.

Ray Rice was the fiancé, Janay Palmer was the fiancée.

 

[IthacaBarrel]

When was the last time you saw someone serve time for punching anyone in the face? That never happens.

He would have been better off if he never punched a woman, much less his fiance/wife in the face.

I always equate this type of situation to the real world. Would he lose his job if he was a truck driver or an accountant? Probably not and most likely nobody would know outside of his and her family.

...But in this case, playing in the NFL is a privilege not a right and they have the ability to choose who plays in the league and who doesn't and they don't want anyone at this point in time that can put a smudge on the league's reputation or image.

In this day and age, how can anyone possibly not know that this video was A- out there and B- that everyone would eventually see it on the web.

Mind- boggling first and foremos the stupidity of Ray Rice and the NFL.

People go to jail for domestic abuse all the time. Which this is. Call it punching someone in the face if you like.

 

[shandeezy7]

This is driving me nuts and is not directed at any poster in any of these threads...

"fiancé" refers to a male.
"fiancée" refers to a female.

Ray Rice was the fiancé, Janay Palmer was the fiancée.

You learn something new every day on this board I tell ya

 

[Toga]

This is driving me nuts and is not directed at any poster in any of these threads...

"fiancé" refers to a male.
"fiancée" refers to a female.

Ray Rice was the fiancé, Janay Palmer was the fiancée.

I've struggled with that.

 

[qdawgg]

No they wouldn't because their employer wouldn't get a videotape of the incident.

Not accurate and becoming less true for many professions. I would be 100% fired at my place of employment. He's a public figure and throughout the history of public figures their actions are at times more scrutinized than others. It is the way it is. If he wanted to work for a company where it wouldn't matter if you punched a female in the face, he could have done a lot of other things. But clearly the NFL has their image to protect because it impacts their relationship with sponsors and thus the bottom line = $. Ray Rice was part of that whole process, he screwed up big time and now he's paying the price. Their is nothing over reactionary about anything that has happened to him. At the end of the day it's entirely a business decision and nothing more.

 

[OrangeTown]

This is driving me nuts and is not directed at any poster in any of these threads...

"fiancé" refers to a male.
"fiancée" refers to a female.

Ray Rice was the fiancé, Janay Palmer was the fiancée.

I consider myself a partial grammar critic, and I was not aware of that. Thanks for the extra ammo!

 

[Todd Gack]

This is driving me nuts and is not directed at any poster in any of these threads... "fiancé" refers to a male. "fiancée" refers to a female. Ray Rice was the fiancé, Janay Palmer was the fiancée.

Maybe the dingo ate your baby.

 

[Upstate]

Didn't realize he did this in HS, too!

http://yonkers.dailyvoice.com/sport...pts-memory-punch-ex-westchester-star-threw-hs

 

[longislandcuse]

Janay Rice:

"I woke up this morning feeling like I had a horrible nightmare, feeling like I'm mourning the death of my closest friend," she wrote.
"But to have to accept the fact that it's reality is a nightmare in itself. No one knows the pain that the media & unwanted options from the public has caused my family. To make us relive a moment in our lives that we regret everyday is a horrible thing. To take something away from the man I love that he has worked his [butt] off for all his life just to gain ratings is a horrific. THIS IS OUR LIFE! What don't you all get. If your intentions were to hurt us, embarrass us, make us feel alone, take all happiness away, you've succeeded on so many levels. Just know we will continue to grow & show the world what real love is! Ravensnation we love you!"

 

[RF2044]

Janay Rice:

"I woke up this morning feeling like I had a horrible nightmare, feeling like I'm mourning the death of my closest friend," she wrote.
"But to have to accept the fact that it's reality is a nightmare in itself. No one knows the pain that the media & unwanted options from the public has caused my family. To make us relive a moment in our lives that we regret everyday is a horrible thing. To take something away from the man I love that he has worked his [butt] off for all his life just to gain ratings is a horrific. THIS IS OUR LIFE! What don't you all get. If your intentions were to hurt us, embarrass us, make us feel alone, take all happiness away, you've succeeded on so many levels. Just know we will continue to grow & show the world what real love is! Ravensnation we love you!"

Wow.

I mean, what Ray Rice did was reprehensible. And yet, a lot of what she says makes a lot of sense. I'm not sure that lives / careers / reputations need to be destroyed if this really is a one-off mistake that happened in the heat of the moment, to satisfy short-term moral outrage. :noidea:

Not condoing Rice's actions in any way, shape, or form--but this puts a human spin on the opposite side of the story that hasn't been covered in the 24/7 media feeding frenzy over this topic.

 

[shandeezy7]

Wow.

I mean, what Ray Rice did was reprehensible. And yet, a lot of what she says makes a lot of sense. I'm not sure that lives / careers / reputations need to be destroyed if this really is a one-off mistake that happened in the heat of the moment, to satisfy short-term moral outrage. :noidea:

Not condoing Rice's actions in any way, shape, or form--but this puts a human spin on the opposite side of the story that hasn't been covered in the 24/7 media feeding frenzy over this topic.

It could also be that she has been effectively brainwashed into believing that this was a one-time incident. I mean, she took blame for getting knocked the out by a man. That's not something a clearheaded individual would do.

 

[RF2044]

It could also be that she has been effectively brainwashed into believing that this was a one-time incident. I mean, she took blame for getting knocked the out by a man. That's not something a clearheaded individual would do.

It could be. I was thinking something similar even as I wrote the above. But I don't think that at face value we can say--external to the sitatuion--that she's brainwashed, or covering up, or make any other attribution about her motivation, rationality, etc.

I get that what she's expressing doesn't fit the discourse happening around the nation today, but she was the one directly impacted by Rice's actions. Why shouldn't her opinion be relevant?

 

[shandeezy7]

It could be. I was thinking something similar even as I wrote the above. But I don't think that at face value we can say--external to the sitatuion--that she's brainwashed, or covering up, or make any other attribution about her motivation, rationality, etc.

I get that what she's expressing doesn't fit the discourse happening around the nation today, but she was the one directly impacted by Rice's actions. Why shouldn't her opinion be relevant?

Her opinion should be taken with a grain of salt I think, and the psychology of abuse victims would tend to back that up.

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/09/why-they-stayed/379843/

 

[RF2044]

Her opinion should be taken with a grain of salt I think, and the psychology of abuse victims would tend to back that up.

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/09/why-they-stayed/379843/

That article is instructive in the sense that many of the limitations ascribed to the abused women might not apply to Janay Rice--who presumably has the resources [and certainly would have the public support] needed to extricate herself from her current situation. Maybe she's staying because what happened wasn't the norm behaviorally. Or maybe--like you're suggesting--she's a trapped victim suffering from an acute case of stockholm syndrome. I just don't agree with unilaterally dismissing her perspective on the matter, since she's the one involved in the situation. It's not like her remarks [from above] were a press conference with her reading a prepared, disingenuous statement. To the contrary, she seems completely genuine in her reaction.

I want to be clear: I'm not defending Ray Rice. I have two daughters and a sister, and I think what he did was criminal. He deserves whatever legal consequences he gets. But I also believe that if he doesn't have a criminal record or a past history of such violence, that he doesn't need to be stoned to death over this, or be black listed from his profession merely to quell social outrage, or because Roger Goodell and the NFL are now over-compensating to cover their a$$e$ in the aftermath of giving him too light of a penalty. I'm tired of knee jerk reactions, and people not thinking things through instead of just reacting to stimulus--and the more salacious the trigger, the greater the faux outrage demanding a pound of flesh. I'm not accusing you of this, shandeezy, just talking in general about how society gets oversaturated with scandal coverage in today's 24 hour news media.

I hope Ray Rice gets punished to the full extent of the law for what he did. But if the preponderance of his past / track record warrants some conditional leniency, then he shouldn't be overpenalized just because people are screaming for his head, or because the NFL is now desperate to make an example of him to make up for not doing their job the first time around.

 

[Melancer46]

Honest question--aren't the obligated to contest it, since Rice is a member? Not trying to be funny--serious question.

I thought this was the case as well.

Seriously why is Rice not in jail if the DA had access to this video?

First time offenders generally don't go to jail. The usual punishment is probation and some sort of therapy.