Red's Postgame Presser | Cornell

[Lukeyloo]

“Coach doing you dirty”? Their yes-men friends are morons and don’t help matters.

they’re, as the kids say, glazing him.

 

[richmondcuse03]

Bell won't ever be a pro if he can't fight through his problems. I was hoping having veteran seniors would help him but TBD.

He should delete social media and just focus on basketball. No outside distraction.

Not sure we really have veteran seniors who are actual leaders. Carlos isn't it. Neither is Taylor. Eddie is closest to senior leadership.

The guy who can actually be the vocal leader on this team is Choppa and he's a freshman not even starting. There's a gap here, sadly yet again.

 

[two3zone]

Not sure we really have veteran seniors who are actual leaders. Carlos isn't it. Neither is Taylor. Eddie is closest to senior leadership.

The guy who can actually be the vocal leader on this team is Choppa and he's a freshman not even starting. There's a gap here, sadly yet again.

I was thinking Donnie too, he was more vocal than I've ever seen him and he definitely took charge and was far more assertive. On this squad, he could be an efficient 20/10. I believe it.

 

[baggerbob]

So we only gotta wait 6 more games you're saying .

I think Billy missed the first 14 games, but if Chance gives us close to what Billy did that year we are in a good place.

 

[tptcuse]

I think he's implying that the team was better with Judah, Maliq, and Quadir.

The team that lost by 30 each game in Hawaii? Maybe he should do something about that. Those guys are all doing worse and/or getting less playing time with their new teams.

 

[RyanCuse44]

I think Billy missed the first 14 games, but if Chance gives us close to what Billy did that year we are in a good place.

14 if you include the exhibition, 12 regular. Made sure to look that up before I posted it lol.

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[Mstumpy50]

So some dude says the best player on the team is sitting, what the heck is he watching.

Adolescent observation without a doubt. However it wasn't that the kid wrote benched best player it was that CB liked what he wrote that got me

 

[bballbeadle]

Yes and it's still up.

I’m sorry, who posted that?

 

[bballbeadle]

I’m sorry, who posted that?

After reading through this thread, I realize it was Bell. Oh, Bell, what the hell? You make me yell. Will he ever jell? We don’t want to say farewell. I guess time will tell.

Will someone turn that into a rap song for me?

 

[OrangeXtreme]

After reading through this thread, I realize it was Bell. Oh, Bell, what the hell? You make me yell. Will he ever jell? We don’t want to say farewell. I guess time will tell.

Will someone turn that into a rap song for me?

Move, Bell, get out the way
Get out the way, Bell, get out the way

 

[djorange1989]

Bench Bell and Carlos, roll with JJ/Choppa/Taylor/Donnie/Eddie. This team is going nowhere with Bell and Carlos starting, shake things up, it likely can’t be worse

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I was thinking Donnie too, he was more vocal than I've ever seen him and he definitely took charge and was far more assertive. On this squad, he could be an efficient 20/10. I believe it.

I want to see a big man that busts his tail to get position down low, and when his guards don't reward that, he spends the next entire time out barking at them with a death stare, so the next time he's down there they get him the ball, then he congratulations and high fives them all the way back down court.

 

[sufan59]

That's a bit of a harsh take. We're not seeing Chris do anything toxic; he had a bad game (maybe a skid), got benched, and is upset about it. He looked dejected as he went through the handshake line, I legit felt sorry for him.

That's not an abnormal reaction, nor is it a good headspace to play any sport at your best. And that sort of sport psychology absolutely falls under coaching IMHO. Like when Fran was consoling Kyle after all the interceptions at Pitt--lots of people didn't like that, yet, Kyle bounced right back the next game.

So it’s not toxic to be passive aggressive on social media after a tough individual performance after your team won and saw breakout performances by two freshmen.

 

[Sherman20]

I do.

I actually saw more promise this game than I did the previous two which I know won't be a popular opinion.

A. No Eddie, we win by 20 with him healthy probably, they wouldn't have had an answer.

B. Like you said, he sat who he should've sat.


I do believe you about Bell because from just from the outside looking in, I wouldn't have believed it but there is obviously something he showed Red to keep him around.


As long as Red is open to adjusting the minutes on a full time basis then let's gooooooo, but if we're playing until Bell and Carlos fail, we are in trouble.

Red's not a dummy, I don't think anyone thinks that, I just think he believes in some guys more than they'll ever believe in themselves. At some point you cut the cord.

Agreed. I still believe in Bell’s upside as an elite shooter, and even if he’s mediocre in other areas, we need his shooting badly. He needs to get his head on straight and be a team player. But with Carlos, I think it’s time to fully shift into giving Moore and Taylor the majority of the playing time at the other guard spot.

 

[pearl31]

Bell’s upside as an elite shooter

except when he has no interest being involved in the offense whatsoever

 

[IthacaMatt]

I don’t agree with this comparison at all. McCord legitimately wants to win and was upset he was hurting the team. Chris comes off as being angry he didn’t get his. It’s not hard to play hard when you’re not making shots. That’s all people are asking for. -16 plus/minus last night tells you he doesn’t give a crap about the other end if he’s not scoring. Multiple possessions on defense he was caught napping.

Sit his ass down much sooner. Give him until the first time out. If he's not working, he's out and Davis is in.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Agreed. I still believe in Bell’s upside as an elite shooter, and even if he’s mediocre in other areas, we need his shooting badly. He needs to get his head on straight and be a team player. But with Carlos, I think it’s time to fully shift into giving Moore and Taylor the majority of the playing time at the other guard spot.

Here's the thing; Cole Swider was an elite shooter, too. So was Buddy. They both did a lot more to help the team win in other parts of their game.

 

[McCuse]

Besides Brown, the rest are doing nothing and are playing at schools we’ll never hear from them again. If Bell doesn’t want to suck it up and get coached hard, just leave now and spare the coaching staff of being psychologists to keep his head on straight. He did nothing tonight that garnered any playing time. He deserved to sit. He can whine about it or do something to change the way he’s playing.

Hopefully it will make him hungrier to play harder. He has great ups, we've seen some amazing blocks from him, so he has the tools. He just needs the will. Glad to hear Red say that ship has sailed if people aren't giving effort. We're much better without him when he's not contributing.

 

[Sherman20]

Here's the thing; Cole Swider was an elite shooter, too. So was Buddy. They both did a lot more to help the team win in other parts of their game.

Both were slow footed and poor defenders too, but were hidden a bit in the zone. Bell is quicker, has better hops and is more athletic than both Buddy and Swider. Bell needs to get his head screwed on right and be a team player. Who knows if he’ll get there but the raw materials are there. It wasn’t a crazy bet for Red to think that Bell could improve a lot as a junior and become more consistent. Of course it hasn’t happened yet but we’ll see.