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Regardless of who you blame, does anyone think Autry is a good coach?

For those that don’t know, Autry ran practices every year he worked for JB.. JB believed in him and he had the makings of a good HC. However, it hasn’t translated. Love the guy and the staff, but you have to win. And you have to win with this roster. I know they are missing Donnie, but when ya know ya know
 
I think Autry could be a good coach, but it's clear that he is learning on the job. For better or for worse, it seems like Autry will run out of time before he evolves to becoming a good coach.

Syracuse did him a bit dirty by giving him this job. Obviously, it’s a great opportunity, but a P5 school is not the place to learn on the job. There’s too much money, and with that, too much pressure. Sometimes it works out. This is one of the many times it hasn’t.
 
For those that don’t know, Autry ran practices every year he worked for JB.. JB believed in him and he had the makings of a good HC. However, it hasn’t translated. Love the guy and the staff, but you have to win. And you have to win with this roster. I know they are missing Donnie, but when ya know ya know

Wait, I thought Hopkins ran the practices until he left.
 
You are right That was 9 years ago he left though and I was talking in most recent time
Ok, that’s what I thought. That was not trying to be snarky, either. I just know Red’s been on the staff to some extent since 2011. Your point is taken regardless.
 
Don’t blame Autry for his failures as SU mens basketball program.

The blame for Autry’s failures and the program’s decline rests solely upon the shoulders of the knuckleheads that hired him.

Why the heck would the SU braintrust hire someone who did not have any head coaching experience to take over SU’s national billboard program?

I can give you a long list of former assistants coaches who lacked head coaching experience that failed when they took over a top men’s basketball program.

Yep, Autry was a good recruiter for Boeheim but being a recruiter (a/k/a “salesperson”) is different from the duties as the men’s head coach.

Autry has failed. Terminate him at the end of the season. Hire a 45+/- year old who has distinguished himself as the head coach at a mid major.
Couldn't have said it any better myself. Solid post. He is a horrible in game coach. Clearly not an X and O guy. Unable to make adjustments on the fly. The last play of the Tennessee game was a perfect example of coaching malpractice. Only an idiot would put Starling back underneath the basket, instead of a big guy. Nearly lost as a result
 
For those that don’t know, Autry ran practices every year he worked for JB.. JB believed in him and he had the makings of a good HC. However, it hasn’t translated. Love the guy and the staff, but you have to win. And you have to win with this roster. I know they are missing Donnie, but when ya know ya know
That would explain a lot actually... the offense at Syracuse didn't all of the sudden get so bad. They are running the same "sets" they always have, but with much much worse offenslve players.

I'll say what I said again.. Autry could eventually become a really solid coach, but he needs probably about 5 years to get there. Unfortunately with the way the last decade of JB went down Autry has ZERO margin for error so he's (deservedly) out after this year if things go the way they are looking.
 
Autry is in over his head. He should have started out coaching at a lower level school. Some guys can go straight to a Power school and succeed right away but not all can.

The only in house person I’d be fine with as our next coach is Hop. He’s had experience at Washington and now at the NBA level. Hopkins 26.
 
Autry is in over his head. He should have started out coaching at a lower level school. Some guys can go straight to a Power school and succeed right away but not all can.

The only in house person I’d be fine with as our next coach is Hop. He’s had experience at Washington and now at the NBA level. Hopkins 26.
I think Hopkins would be better as the associate HC for whoever gets the job. He had his shot at Washington and it didn't work out.
 
Years 1 and 2 both the D and O stunk... this year the D is much better, but I would argue it's because of better players more so than better coaching, but I'll give Autry credit, they know what they want to do and are committed to it. The O is a trainwreck... maybe next year the offense is better?

I think Autry could be a good coach, but it's clear that he is learning on the job. For better or for worse, it seems like Autry will run out of time before he evolves to becoming a good coach.
I would be pretty stunned if Autry gets another D1 HC job at any level. Has to go back to the asst route. HC isn’t for everyone.
 
Every thread devolves into placing some blame elsewhere. The only question that really matters is Autry a good coach or even a mediocre coach? If your answer is yes then please share the things you believe he does well.

For transparency, I think he is not a good coach and is in the bottom tier of coaches we see patrolling the major conference sidelines. His best quality appears to be recruiting at the high school level. However, if we view that as a strength then his coaching and developmental ability would be deemed as a negative as the talent does not translate into results.

Frustrated with another wasted season but Go Cuse!
No one thinks he's good. Some people feel noble pretending to disagree
 
what specifically does he do or not do that informs people to say he isn’t? The only two things I can speak on are his substitution patterns at times make no sense and he waits too long to call TO when the other team goes on a run. We don’t know how he’s coaching behind the scenes .

Look what happened when Hofstra switched to zone.

We were absolute deer-in-the-headlights.

We burned numerous timeouts trying to stop the bleeding to no avail. Hofstra play zone sets regularly and it was in any basic scouting report on them. We should have been prepared for it and we looked anything but...

Our team finally coalesced with pure effort/will/athleticism to turn the tide late, but it was day-late, dollar-short...
 
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Look what happened when Hofstra switched to zone.

We were absllute deer-in-the-headlights.

We burned numerous timeouts trying to stop the bleeding to no avail. Hofstra play zone sets regularly and it was in any basic scouting report on them. We should have been prepared for it and we looked anything but...

Our team finally coalesced with pure effort/will/athleticism to turn the tide late, but it was day-late, dollar-short...
Earlier in the year, they handled zone defenses easily. I think Donnie was probably playing at that time.
 
I actually believe he’s an average ACC coach. I can find 7-8 other ACC coaches that give the same coaching vibes and results as Autry. Most of those coaches won’t last long either tho just moving between 6-12th place in the ACC and hoping for stars to align to make the tourney play in game.

There’s just no time for learning on the job here. I also think that average means we’re prob looking at the bubble every year and that’s just not good enough for this program either.

I believe Autry doesn’t have confidence or focus real time in games and that seeps into everything on game day. Our guys see that so struggle, the other team and coaches see weakness then they play better and our fans see it too so don’t show up.

There’s a world where Autry might’ve been able to fake it until he makes it as HC but that’s gone.
 
For those that don’t know, Autry ran practices every year he worked for JB.. JB believed in him and he had the makings of a good HC. However, it hasn’t translated. Love the guy and the staff, but you have to win. And you have to win with this roster. I know they are missing Donnie, but when ya know ya know
Any insight into why Red didn't bring in another coach to assist? I know he made the correct call on strength and conditioning, but he could have added a seasoned staff member as an assistant or analyst/advisor and he didn't.
 
The only in house person I’d be fine with as our next coach is Hop. He’s had experience at Washington and now at the NBA level.

Hopkins’ in conference record at Washington was a miserable 62 and 52 being a 46% win- loss record which is why he got canned.

Yeah, Hopkins may be a nice guy who pulls at your sentimental heart strings but the reality is, as a head men’s basketball coach Hopkins is a loser.

Had Hopkins been respected by P5 ADs and his fellow coaches then he would have received another fat contract to coach in college.

Hopkins should be a hard- hard pass.
 
Any insight into why Red didn't bring in another coach to assist? I know he made the correct call on strength and conditioning, but he could have added a seasoned staff member as an assistant or analyst/advisor and he didn't.
Dan was supposed to be “the guy”
 
In the end, if he doesn’t reach the tournament, he’ll be fired and you all will be happy. The stupid thing here is, if we shot free throws at even a 67% clip, we would have 2, maybe even 1 loss right now. Autry would be considered doing a very good job. I guess you can have the opinion that free throws are on the coach as many here do. I tend to blame the players for missed free throws……but that’s just me.
So you believe Red’s a good coach. I mean, it’s a position you can take. Own it and defend it, that’s what message boards are for.
 

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