Regardless of who you blame, does anyone think Autry is a good coach?

[Capt. Tuttle]

Red running practice corresponds to the decline in SU basketball. The stuff isn’t that difficult to diagnose.

So does JB’s ineptitude recruiting. Remember when he lied to us all about his last class? Yes, LIED!!

 

[Blanko97]

I wonder what people would be saying if we had made 3 more FTs and were 8-2 and ranked in the top 25. Remember everyone seemed happy with Red when we lost by 1 to Houston.

BTW, those 3 FTs would raise our season average from 56.7 all the way up to 58.9% Hard for me to blame Red for the FT % - it is very hard to change your form after you have been doing it for many years (ask Shaq or Wilt), and besides, our guys with good form are also missing. A sports psychologist may help. Maybe one shouldn't recruit iffy FT shooters.

I also think we would 8-2 if Donnie was playing.

Given that, without a big improvement when Donnie comes back I would expect this is Red's last season. I'm ready to move on.

They weren't iffy shooters though, 3 of the starters shot FAR better last year than they are here. That cant possibly be a coincidence.

JJ: 69%
George: 79%
Kingz: 82%

Kyle and Betsy were bad but Betsy had like 7 attempts all year.

 

[cuseinseattle]

Every thread devolves into placing some blame elsewhere. The only question that really matters is Autry a good coach or even a mediocre coach? If your answer is yes then please share the things you believe he does well.

For transparency, I think he is not a good coach and is in the bottom tier of coaches we see patrolling the major conference sidelines. His best quality appears to be recruiting at the high school level. However, if we view that as a strength then his coaching and developmental ability would be deemed as a negative as the talent does not translate into results.

Frustrated with another wasted season but Go Cuse!

Every thread turns into everything being Autry fault. Nothing bad has happened that he is not blamed for.

 

[cuseinseattle]

Years 1 and 2 both the D and O stunk... this year the D is much better, but I would argue it's because of better players more so than better coaching, but I'll give Autry credit, they know what they want to do and are committed to it. The O is a trainwreck... maybe next year the offense is better?

I think Autry could be a good coach, but it's clear that he is learning on the job. For better or for worse, it seems like Autry will run out of time before he evolves to becoming a good coach.

So the defense is the players doing but the offense it Autry. LOL. You can't make this stuff up.

 

[Bulldog04]

Why? He has proven that with GREAT recruits, he can’t really sustain a winning program. And that was in the PAC 10

The timing was right to be a powerhouse if he took over when he was supposed to. Was more so talking about that timing of him running things

 

[tbonezone]

I wonder what people would be saying if we had made 3 more FTs and were 8-2 and ranked in the top 25. Remember everyone seemed happy with Red when we lost by 1 to Houston.

ah the christmas candy's , ifs and buts.

 

[sufan59]

The timing was right to be a powerhouse if he took over when he was supposed to. Was more so talking about that timing of him running things

Yeah, I think we forget how many key pieces we lost out on when Hopkins left. Also, Hopkins didn’t take enough of the Syracuse pieces to run a powerhouse they thought he would out in Washington.

 

[Fly Rodder]

So the defense is the players doing but the offense it Autry. LOL. You can't make this stuff up.

Syracuse KP Offensive efficiencies rank in the Autry Era:
2024 (Primetime for the best recruiting class ever): 83
2025 (that was great, let's run it back!): 106
2026 (OK, that sucked, how about a whole new roster): 107

Syracuse KP Defensive efficiencies rank in the Autry Era:
2024 (Primetime for the best recruiting class ever): 85
2025 (that was great, let's run it back!): 152
2026 (OK, that sucked, how about a whole new roster): 46

So three really rough offenses despite a wholesale roster change and two really rough defenses plus a middling third year with a new roster of guys who actually play defense. We need those ranks in the top-30 to be pushing for a decent seed, so yeah, not great. The defense is improved, yes, but has been trending down all season despite some good showings against Houston and Tennessee (their worst shooting night, by far, all season was against SU). And it's not elite by any stretch of the definition. It's decent and can improve a lot.

 

[tbonezone]

Yeah, I think we forget how many key pieces we lost out on when Hopkins left. Also, Hopkins didn’t take enough of the Syracuse pieces to run a powerhouse they thought he would out in Washington.

20 plus years as squire and cup holder to JB landed him a six yr contract at Washington. his HC final gig.

 

[RF2044]

The timing was right to be a powerhouse if he took over when he was supposed to. Was more so talking about that timing of him running things

I think that's the fantasy about Hopkins that wasn't supported by the results when he got his shot at the P5/4 level.

He would have certainly benefited from being able to leverage his recruiting contacts short term, had he gotten our job. But he wouldn't have been any better of a head coach than he what he proved to be at Washington, which would have limited his performance long-term.

He just didn't have enough tools in his tool belt. The same as Autry now.

 

[orangecuse]

So the defense is the players doing but the offense it Autry. LOL. You can't make this stuff up.

In regards to your; "you can't make this stuff up" remark.

This quote is from an NBA head coach whose team's defense had been the best in the league his last two there prior to moving on to a perennial bottom feeder team whom he got in the playoffs his first season there last year. And, this year, currently has his team with the best record in the NBA Eastern Division.

"If you want to win and win in this league at the level that we hope to, you can't do it if you don't guard. And defense comes down to the effort you're willing to put in. The second effort, the third effort, the fourth effort that you're willing to put in. And right now, we don't have enough guys that are putting in the second, third and fourth effort."

Kind of self explanatory. His point is that one (the players) have to be voluntarily willing to to dig deep down within themselves to play good consistent defense, a mental toughness, mindset type of deal.

Offense, is a different animal all together, and that's where a coach's talent, prowess, etc. for same is far more critical.

 

[NKR1978]

I think a way to look at this is that I can't imagine any coach in the country is afraid to play us because of him.

 

[Cuseball]

I think a way to look at this is that I can't imagine any coach in the country is afraid to play us because of him.

I looked at the 18 teams in the SEC and the 18 teams in the Big Ten.

I would be hard pressed to find one coach that Autry would be considered better than. In the Big 10, maybe you could say Steve Pikiell (rutgers) but Pikiell has actually won over 300 games in his career and if both were available I would imagine SP would get far more offers. In the SEC there would be no one.

In the ACC the bottom five would have to be the BC coach, the new FSU coach, the Ga Tech coach, Capel and Autry.

This can not be the Orange Standard

 

[cuseinseattle]

In regards to your; "you can't make this stuff up" remark.

This quote is from an NBA head coach whose team's defense had been the best in the league his last two there prior to moving on to a perennial bottom feeder team whom he got in the playoffs his first season there last year. And, this year, currently has his team with the best record in the NBA Eastern Division.

"If you want to win and win in this league at the level that we hope to, you can't do it if you don't guard. And defense comes down to the effort you're willing to put in. The second effort, the third effort, the fourth effort that you're willing to put in. And right now, we don't have enough guys that are putting in the second, third and fourth effort."

Kind of self explanatory. His point is that one (the players) have to be voluntarily willing to to dig deep down within themselves to play good consistent defense, a mental toughness, mindset type of deal.

Offense, is a different animal all together, and that's where a coach's talent, prowess, etc. for same is far more critical.

Whatever. Autry won't survive this season so you don't need to worry about that. It's stupid to blame him for everything but at same time not give him credit for improvements in areas. The idea that 18 and 19 year old kids are capable of playing good defense without coaching is not correct in my opinion.

 

[RedtheGOB]

I looked at the 18 teams in the SEC and the 18 teams in the Big Ten.

I would be hard pressed to find one coach that Autry would be considered better than. In the Big 10, maybe you could say Steve Pikiell (rutgers) but Pikiell has actually won over 300 games in his career and if both were available I would imagine SP would get far more offers. In the SEC there would be no one.

In the ACC the bottom five would have to be the BC coach, the new FSU coach, the Ga Tech coach, Capel and Autry.

This can not be the Orange Standard

Accurate assessment. Get the job posted on linked in today! Just have an AI chatbot run the team the rest of the year. It could give a better presser for sure