Rick Barnes out at Texas, in at Tennessee

[OrangeXtreme]

Jeff Goodman ‏@GoodmanESPN
Texas will fire Rick Barnes, sources confirmed to ESPN.

ESPN College BBall ‏@ESPNCBB
BREAKING: Texas will fire Rick Barnes after 17 seasons with the Longhorns, according to ESPN's Jeff Goodman & the Austin American-Statesman.

 

[rrlbees]

Marshall, Smart or Buzz Williams.

 

[longtimefan]

Marshall, Smart or Buzz Williams.

For sure, they have plenty of money to throw at whomever they target. The downside for the candidates is--do you want to be a basketball coach at a football school? Worked for Donovan at Florida, not nearly as well at the rest of the non-basketball SEC schools. And what do FSU and Clemson care about basketball?

 

[bpo57]

Marshall.

 

[cto]

For sure, they have plenty of money to throw at whomever they target. The downside for the candidates is--do you want to be a basketball coach at a football school? Worked for Donovan at Florida, not nearly as well at the rest of the non-basketball SEC schools. And what do FSU and Clemson care about basketball?

Has worked in most of the Big 10 (e.g., two of them in the Elite Eight this weekend -- both of whom have a good shot at the Final Four).

 

[Czar]

That took way too long.

Bad news for Kansas.

 

[NineOneSeven]

Has worked in most of the Big 10 (e.g., two of them in the Elite Eight this weekend -- both of whom have a good shot at the Final Four).

And OSU

 

[2-3zone]

Since 2009 there have been 19 top 25 recruits in the ESPN top 100 from the state of Texas and Barnes landed a total of 2

2 of 19 from your home state is awful for a program like Texas

 

[jncuse]

For sure, they have plenty of money to throw at whomever they target. The downside for the candidates is--do you want to be a basketball coach at a football school? Worked for Donovan at Florida, not nearly as well at the rest of the non-basketball SEC schools. And what do FSU and Clemson care about basketball?

- It's an easy place to recruit with many prized recruits in the last 10 years to demonstrate this. It's not reasonable to compare this to a Florida St or a Clemson from a recruiting perspective.
- Has shown to be a place you can get to second or 3rd weekend in the tourney conistently.
- Beautiful City
- Significant resources provided for basketball for a long time now.
- Seemingly not too demanding an AD / Trustees or reluctant to change... look how long they kept Barnes and Brown.

I stand by my stance that this is a top 5, top 10 job. It's not a hard place to have elite results, and has shown to be fairly reluctant to change.

Let's say JB left after this year. The Texas job is the better job than Syracuse, unless you have sentimental / regional attraction to a certain school or area. Sorry to those who I have offended with this comment

 

[jncuse]

Since 2009 there have been 19 top 25 recruits in the ESPN top 100 from the state of Texas and Barnes landed a total of 2

2 of 19 from your home state is awful for a program like Texas

Barnes has landed quite a few prized recruits out of state. But I agree a new coach can land them in state and out of state. And a new coach can probably coach better.

This program can be so much better in basketball, because the school is willing to throw money at it.

 

[longislandcuse]

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Let's say JB left after this year. The Texas job is easily the better job than Syracuse, unless you have sentimental / regional attraction to a certain school or area. Sorry to those who I have offended with this comment

Sureeeee it is.

 

[jncuse]

Sureeeee it is.

I did remove the "easily" after re-reading and editing my comment, and prior to seeing your post.

Easily may have exaggerated it, but it is a better job in my view.

 

[Cusefannotindc]

The guy had Kevin Durant and DJ Augustin in 2007 and got bounced in the 2nd round, long overdue.

 

[Quazzum69]

For sure, they have plenty of money to throw at whomever they target. The downside for the candidates is--do you want to be a basketball coach at a football school? Worked for Donovan at Florida, not nearly as well at the rest of the non-basketball SEC schools. And what do FSU and Clemson care about basketball?

Texas has so much money that it doesn't even matter. Outside of UK, Syracuse, Duke, etc. what job would be better than Texas? I'm not even sure those jobs are intrinsically good anyways - it's pretty much the current coach and/or historical success and tradition.

Who would pick St John's over Texas? Villanova over Texas? Outside of the bluebloods, Texas has to be right there for best job. They could become a blueblood pretty easily with the right person.

 

[bpo57]

Texas is also building a new basketball arena. Sure it's a football school but it's also has incredible upside in hoops. One way it's better than SU is the $$$$ they can afford to pay.

 

[690West]

Marshall, Smart or Buzz Williams.

I think texas is viewing it as Marshall........smart, buzz

 

[HOFCeluck]

Texas will have fan support once they start winning again. I agree, it's a better job than Syracuse.

 

[Ghost]

Trade him for Buzz Williams. Barnes is a horrible coach, and we get rid of Buzz from the ACC.

WIN/WIN!!!!

 

[CuseLegacy]

Mark Titus ‏@clubtrillion 3h3 hours ago
Tom Crean to Texas confirmed. RT @SportsCenter: BREAKING: Texas will fire Rick Barnes. Barnes made one Final Four in 17 years at UT.

 

[HOFCeluck]

What

 

[Ghost]

Mark Titus ‏@clubtrillion 3h3 hours ago
Tom Crean to Texas confirmed. RT @SportsCenter: BREAKING: Texas will fire Rick Barnes. Barnes made one Final Four in 17 years at UT.

Tom Crean? What?

That makes no sense. Tom Crean, from Indiana, to Texas?

And this is why Texas basketball sucks.

 

[jncuse]

Mark Titus ‏@clubtrillion 3h3 hours ago
Tom Crean to Texas confirmed. RT @SportsCenter: BREAKING: Texas will fire Rick Barnes. Barnes made one Final Four in 17 years at UT.

I don't think that has actually been confirmed.

But let's say it is.

The fan interest level at Indiana may be higher -- which creates a high you can't get at Texas. But the resources are no better, the recruiting trails are no easier, its not easier to win at Indiana, and more importantly the "lows" are much easier to handle at Texas.

 

[rrlbees]

- It's an easy place to recruit with many prized recruits in the last 10 years to demonstrate this. It's not reasonable to compare this to a Florida St or a Clemson from a recruiting perspective. - Has shown to be a place you can get to second or 3rd weekend in the tourney conistently. - Beautiful City - Significant resources provided for basketball for a long time now. - Seemingly not too demanding an AD / Trustees or reluctant to change... look how long they kept Barnes and Brown. I stand by my stance that this is a top 5, top 10 job. It's not a hard place to have elite results, and has shown to be fairly reluctant to change. Let's say JB left after this year. The Texas job is the better job than Syracuse, unless you have sentimental / regional attraction to a certain school or area. Sorry to those who I have offended with this comment

I dint know how it's automatically a better job than SU because of money. We've been the better program forever it seems, draw the largest crowds in the country, have played in the 2 best conferences ever and are a TV household name.

 

[HOFCeluck]

Meh. Job =/= program.

 

[jncuse]

I dint know how it's automatically a better job than SU because of money. We've been the better program forever it seems, draw the largest crowds in the country, have played in the 2 best conferences ever and are a TV household name.

Why does crowd size make the job any better if the resources are no better? If anything, especially coming off NCAA sanctions and a HOF coach it creates a pressure cooker that impedes success.

Some people equate not wanting to work at a pressure cooker or school with manic fan interest as not being driven to succeed. It's a false premise in my view. People that are driven to win, are looking where they can get the resources and the framework they need for the program to get success. Number of fans does not really play into that in all places.

At the end of the day, I think Texas is a great underrated job. Syracuse is still a great job and we will get a good coach who is hopefully the right fit post JB.