Rickie Collins

[Millhouse]

I think that's how Shrader started out.

But after working with Anae / Beck, he improved substantially as a passer.

More than adequate as a passer his final two years.

I wish they had real sack numbers in college.

When her actually threw the ball, it was usually because everything else went well. Protection, open receiver etc.

His passing numbers were similar per pass to McCord but McCord made a million tough throws at the same efficiency while shrader just ate the ball all the time

But since they didn't keep track of sacks which is crazy, you can't make any way adjustment they way they do in the pros (adjusted net yards per attempt)

I'm glad they switched to him and he had his moments

 

[sufandu]

Shrader’s issue was being a dual threat QB with an undersized line that was unable to protect him. This led to more scrambles and more hits behind the LOS resulting in his inability to stay healthy. Most of his bad passes came with an injured shoulder even though we didn’t know it at the time.

Shrader was a winner and a freakin BALLER

Yeah, he didn't get great protection on passes, but he also could have protected himself better on runs, and he often kept the ball on read options when he could have given it. His best trait, his tough running, is what injured him and hurt his passing.

 

[atlanticuse]

This is starting to sound like the “Jarred Kelenic isn’t as bad as you think” type thread.

 

[Idiocuse22&]

Maybe not always correct, but there is a reason why the majority of coaches defer. 93% of NFL teams will defer. "There is statistical evidence to support that deferring to start the second half results, on average, in an extra point on the scoreboard and a 12% chance of stealing a possession." Sharp

Of course there are reasons why some teams take the ball first. I'm not saying that's a good or bad thing. But, there is slight statistical advantage to support why most teams defer.

Yes absolutely...
The trick to swing the defer into your advantage is to manage the clock during the 2nd half of the 2nd quarter to piggy back possessions.
If executed well and with good results it is the same thing as causing a turnover.
Potential 14 point swing with the other offense not even taking the field.
I would always defer unless i was a big underdog on the road. In that case id wanna score first and not play from behind. At the same time try to have the last possession of the first half. Depending on where ya stand at half you have the option to onside kick to start 2nd half.

 

[OttosShoes]

I think whether Schrader is good or mediocre is a matter of context.

Robinson/Schafer/Babers era expectations, he’s good, no doubt in my mind.

Pasquoloni/McPherson/Schwartzwalder eras, he’s probably a backup or a somewhat disappointing starter.

Despite recent setbacks I think the HCFB era will be firmly in the later camp. I appreciate what Schrader did for us and loved watching him play. But moving forward, he’s not the caliber we should be targeting either.

 

[DomeHolmes]

I think whether Schrader is good or mediocre is a matter of context.

Robinson/Schafer/Babers era expectations, he’s good, no doubt in my mind.

Pasquoloni/McPherson/Schwartzwalder eras, he’s probably a backup or a somewhat disappointing starter.

Despite recent setbacks I think the HCFB era will be firmly in the later camp. I appreciate what Schrader did for us and loved watching him play. But moving forward, he’s not the caliber we should be targeting either.

I would give my left nut to have a healthy Schrader start vs SMU today.

 

[OttosShoes]

I would give my left nut to have a healthy Schrader start vs SMU today.

I get that, but Schrader would've very likely sat behind Kyle and Steve too, especially as a sophomore.

When I say Schrader would be a QB2, that's not me endorsing Rickie's QB2 performance to date.

 

[Offthedome]

I'm just as mortified by the pass protection on that play. Were they out partying all week after the Clemson win? Seems eerily reminiscent of our "preparation" for Stanford following the big GTech win last year.

Perhaps the philosophy going forward is after a big win Fran comes in on Monday all piss and vinegar and busts their butts like they got pummeled. It's easier to get to the top than it is to stay there.

 

[OttosShoes]

Perhaps the philosophy going forward is after a big win Fran comes in on Monday all piss and vinegar and busts their butts like they got pummeled. It's easier to get to the top than it is to stay there.

There’s a video somewhere of a furious Saban calling a timeout because he called nickel and his defense wasn’t in it. Which sounds reasonable, but notably they were way up and the game was in garbage minutes.

There’s no ‘off’ at the pointy end, no coasting.

 

[FrancoPizza]

Perhaps the philosophy going forward is after a big win Fran comes in on Monday all piss and vinegar and busts their butts like they got pummeled. It's easier to get to the top than it is to stay there.

I wish the issue was just complacency.

 

[sufandu]

I think whether Schrader is good or mediocre is a matter of context.

Robinson/Schafer/Babers era expectations, he’s good, no doubt in my mind.

Pasquoloni/McPherson/Schwartzwalder eras, he’s probably a backup or a somewhat disappointing starter.

Despite recent setbacks I think the HCFB era will be firmly in the later camp. I appreciate what Schrader did for us and loved watching him play. But moving forward, he’s not the caliber we should be targeting either.

He would have been good enough to be a good starter on teams in between McPherson, Graves, and McNabb. He was no worse than Kevin Mason, who was solid. He was better than every QB between McNabb and Nassib, at least when he was healty. I think he stays healthier in those eras to.

 

[bnoro]

I've seen enough. Woof.

There were 3 men covering that guy.

 

[Ernie44]

God, Collins sucks. He is carlos Del Rio-wilson reincarnate.

 

[Ozcuse]

Collins is a one read liability at qb

 

[cusefan88]

I've seen enough. Woof.

There were 3 men covering that guy.

He's got all the physical tools but can't read the game. It's a shame.

 

[Cuseregular]

Oy ve this kid

 

[ezbeezy214]

I’m super sad that it hasn’t worked out

 

[MadNY3]

He’s not him.

The gameplan is clear. Nixon is legit trying to run, but Rickie is just not wired to be a P4 QB.