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I think that's how Shrader started out.

But after working with Anae / Beck, he improved substantially as a passer.

More than adequate as a passer his final two years.
I wish they had real sack numbers in college.

When her actually threw the ball, it was usually because everything else went well. Protection, open receiver etc.

His passing numbers were similar per pass to McCord but McCord made a million tough throws at the same efficiency while shrader just ate the ball all the time

But since they didn't keep track of sacks which is crazy, you can't make any way adjustment they way they do in the pros (adjusted net yards per attempt)

I'm glad they switched to him and he had his moments
 
Shrader’s issue was being a dual threat QB with an undersized line that was unable to protect him. This led to more scrambles and more hits behind the LOS resulting in his inability to stay healthy. Most of his bad passes came with an injured shoulder even though we didn’t know it at the time.

Shrader was a winner and a freakin BALLER
Yeah, he didn't get great protection on passes, but he also could have protected himself better on runs, and he often kept the ball on read options when he could have given it. His best trait, his tough running, is what injured him and hurt his passing.
 
Maybe not always correct, but there is a reason why the majority of coaches defer. 93% of NFL teams will defer. "There is statistical evidence to support that deferring to start the second half results, on average, in an extra point on the scoreboard and a 12% chance of stealing a possession." Sharp

Of course there are reasons why some teams take the ball first. I'm not saying that's a good or bad thing. But, there is slight statistical advantage to support why most teams defer.
Yes absolutely...
The trick to swing the defer into your advantage is to manage the clock during the 2nd half of the 2nd quarter to piggy back possessions.
If executed well and with good results it is the same thing as causing a turnover.
Potential 14 point swing with the other offense not even taking the field.
I would always defer unless i was a big underdog on the road. In that case id wanna score first and not play from behind. At the same time try to have the last possession of the first half. Depending on where ya stand at half you have the option to onside kick to start 2nd half.
 
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I think whether Schrader is good or mediocre is a matter of context.

Robinson/Schafer/Babers era expectations, he’s good, no doubt in my mind.

Pasquoloni/McPherson/Schwartzwalder eras, he’s probably a backup or a somewhat disappointing starter.

Despite recent setbacks I think the HCFB era will be firmly in the later camp. I appreciate what Schrader did for us and loved watching him play. But moving forward, he’s not the caliber we should be targeting either.
 
I think whether Schrader is good or mediocre is a matter of context.

Robinson/Schafer/Babers era expectations, he’s good, no doubt in my mind.

Pasquoloni/McPherson/Schwartzwalder eras, he’s probably a backup or a somewhat disappointing starter.

Despite recent setbacks I think the HCFB era will be firmly in the later camp. I appreciate what Schrader did for us and loved watching him play. But moving forward, he’s not the caliber we should be targeting either.
I would give my left nut to have a healthy Schrader start vs SMU today.
 
I would give my left nut to have a healthy Schrader start vs SMU today.

I get that, but Schrader would've very likely sat behind Kyle and Steve too, especially as a sophomore.

When I say Schrader would be a QB2, that's not me endorsing Rickie's QB2 performance to date.
 
I'm just as mortified by the pass protection on that play. Were they out partying all week after the Clemson win? Seems eerily reminiscent of our "preparation" for Stanford following the big GTech win last year.
Perhaps the philosophy going forward is after a big win Fran comes in on Monday all piss and vinegar and busts their butts like they got pummeled. It's easier to get to the top than it is to stay there.
 
Perhaps the philosophy going forward is after a big win Fran comes in on Monday all piss and vinegar and busts their butts like they got pummeled. It's easier to get to the top than it is to stay there.

There’s a video somewhere of a furious Saban calling a timeout because he called nickel and his defense wasn’t in it. Which sounds reasonable, but notably they were way up and the game was in garbage minutes.

There’s no ‘off’ at the pointy end, no coasting.
 
Perhaps the philosophy going forward is after a big win Fran comes in on Monday all piss and vinegar and busts their butts like they got pummeled. It's easier to get to the top than it is to stay there.
I wish the issue was just complacency.
 
I think whether Schrader is good or mediocre is a matter of context.

Robinson/Schafer/Babers era expectations, he’s good, no doubt in my mind.

Pasquoloni/McPherson/Schwartzwalder eras, he’s probably a backup or a somewhat disappointing starter.

Despite recent setbacks I think the HCFB era will be firmly in the later camp. I appreciate what Schrader did for us and loved watching him play. But moving forward, he’s not the caliber we should be targeting either.
He would have been good enough to be a good starter on teams in between McPherson, Graves, and McNabb. He was no worse than Kevin Mason, who was solid. He was better than every QB between McNabb and Nassib, at least when he was healty. I think he stays healthier in those eras to.
 
I’m feeling more and more by the quarter that it was a “we named him the starter in spring and don’t want to completely disrespect him” thing because this wasn’t even a little close. 0 touchdowns in 8 quarters with Rickie. Unfortunately he is just not it. Treb was telling the truth. Imagine going from Kyle to this kid..
 
He's got all the physical tools but can't read the game. It's a shame.
I’m not impressed with anything he does. He’s just a bad player period. The Program should cut ties with him at half time. We have 10 points in the past 7 quarters since he took over. The END
There is no way the coaches are going to keep a better player from playing to hide them if winning is in the line. Heck, Fran called his FR OG a potential Top 10 pick. He ain’t insecure.
well then if he’s not better than this then they’re pretty bad at evaluating high school quarterbacks. I can’t believe Luke would be worse
 
Don't want to bash the kid, i'm sure he's trying his best. Chewing him out on the sidelines doesn't help. I'm second guessing the coaching in the summer saying this competition was even remotely close between the quarterbacks...
 
I’m feeling more and more by the quarter that it was a “we named him the starter in spring and don’t want to completely disrespect him” thing because this wasn’t even a little close. 0 touchdowns in 8 quarters with Rickie. Unfortunately he is just not it. Treb was telling the truth. Imagine going from Kyle to this kid..
At the present moment. I think Trebor might be feeling he ended up in a lose lose situation. Allar either needs to turn this around quick or they are going to make a change.
 
Don't want to bash the kid, i'm sure he's trying his best. Chewing him out on the sidelines doesn't help. I'm second guessing the coaching in the summer saying this competition was even remotely close between the quarterbacks...
All I will say (as a coach of a different sport in HS) what you say in public is not always what is actually the case. You always publicly back as many of your players as humanly possible.

But it is pretty clear so far that Rickie and Angeli were performing on two very different levels in actual games this season.

Losing a capable trigger man and turning to one of the weakest players of the position in D1 according to whatever publication that ranked him 64/68 is an incredible fall off for the offense as a whole. When the defense is acting like they can’t stop a nosebleed and every QB is carving us up, it’s a recipe for abject disaster.
 

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