Rickie Collins

[anomander]

I get it.

But I keep hearing things thrown around like "loyalty," when I think it might just come down to a simpler explanation of Carney not being as ready right now, at this stage of his developmental curve, as Collins.

Doesn't mean that in another year he won't surpass him, or that his long-term potential might exceed Collins. But the coaches see these guys every day in practice.

I agree 100% that whatever "it" is, Collins doesn't have it. He still might be our best option to win three games

Carney may not be totally ready right now, but we believe the talent is there. I don’t think anyone can say Rickie is ready and he’s out there. At least Carney gives the offense something with his legs. Any advantage, as slight as it is, we need it at this point. I would have liked to see the switch made coming out of the bye so he would have got 2 weeks of snaps with the 1’s, but if we see the same old Rickie as the last 8 quarters, at some point he needs to pull the trigger. Plus, with Angeli coming back for 2 more years, there is a good chance we never even see what Carney has, as I doubt he will sit the bench for another 2 seasons and then have to compete against whoever we have at that point. Being from Texas those are the type of kids that wouldn’t think twice about leaving. Definitely not saying that’s the reason to play him, but I’d at least like to see what he has. What’s the worst thing that can happen? Go back to Rickie?

 

[baggerbob]

Carney may not be totally ready right now, but we believe the talent is there. I don’t think anyone can say Rickie is ready and he’s out there. At least Carney gives the offense something with his legs. Any advantage, as slight as it is, we need it at this point. I would have liked to see the switch made coming out of the bye so he would have got 2 weeks of snaps with the 1’s, but if we see the same old Rickie as the last 8 quarters, at some point he needs to pull the trigger. Plus, with Angeli coming back for 2 more years, there is a good chance we never even see what Carney has, as I doubt he will sit the bench for another 2 seasons and then have to compete against whoever we have at that point. Being from Texas those are the type of kids that wouldn’t think twice about leaving. Definitely not saying that’s the reason to play him, but I’d at least like to see what he has. What’s the worst thing that can happen? Go back to Rickie?

Most times I would agree with you, but this season has gone off the rails, and unless Rickie plays well tonight, and wins. You don't want to throw the youngster into the game on the road and possibly lose his confidence before he gets settled in.
Wait until North Carolina where he gets a full week of practice, and plays at home.
Hopefully Rickie wins tonight and we don't have to worry about starting Luke.

 

[anomander]

Most times I would agree with you, but this season has gone off the rails, and unless Rickie plays well tonight, and wins. You don't want to throw the youngster into the game on the road and possibly lose his confidence before he gets settled in.
Wait until North Carolina where he gets a full week of practice, and plays at home.
Hopefully Rickie wins tonight and we don't have to worry about starting Luke.

I wanted him to get ready to play tonight at home coming off a bye. I have a feeling we're going to see Rickie the rest of the season, no matter how bad he is.

 

[bnoro]

He shouldn't be allowed out for the second half after that INT. As basic as you can get with two high safeties and man coverage and he threw it right to him. That's a play most HS QBs don't screw up.

 

[Kalima45]

Rickie is the worst qb we have had in a long time, if he is the starter the rest of the year I won’t watch another game this season.

 

[orangefog]

He shouldn't be allowed out for the second half after that INT. As basic as you can get with two high safeties and man coverage and he threw it right to him. That's a play most HS QBs don't screw up.

Then to throw it 15 feet away from Vilari. Gill made a great catch for the TD. It shouldn't be THAT hard on that play. He is terrible.

 

[Ttk.gman2]

If Fran keeps Rickie out there he isn’t the guy and we need to move on this will cost us a bowl.

 

[Tony DeFranco]

If the defenses would make the plays they should make - not exceptional plays - Collins would average 6 ints a game

 

[RF2044]

If Fran keeps Rickie out there he isn’t the guy and we need to move on this will cost us a bowl.

Who "isn't the guy?". Fran?

I can't tell from your incoherent post.

 

[Ttk.gman2]

We ho "isn't the guy?". Fran?

I can't tell from your incoherent post.

My post makes sense you just don’t have any cognitive thinking.

 

[RF2044]

My post makes sense you just don’t have any cognitive thinking.

Nah.

You are just expressing an imbecile perspective. I actually think you're a great poster, I just don't agree with you on this. Sorry about that.

 

[Ttk.gman2]

Nah.

You are just expressing an imbecile perspective. I actually think you're a great poster, I just don't agree with you on this. Sorry about that.

Thank you we can agree to disagree then

 

[RF2044]

Thank you we can agree to disagree then

Agreed.

Meant what I have above, it's fine that we don't agree this time.

 

[The Ack]

If Fran keeps Rickie out there he isn’t the guy and we need to move on this will cost us a bowl.

Fran isn't the guy? Or Rickie?

 

[CanadianSU]

At least Carney can run. This experiment needed to end at the final whistle at SMU…

 

[Orangefan1]

Rickie is very well liked by the team. He has put in the work. He has a ton of natural talent. Will the light go on I hope so. Fran will give him a fair chance to succeed. The young Texan has talent for sure. Saturday night will most likely be Rickie's last chance to own the QB position for the rest of the year.

This didn’t age well, he could be the nicest kid in the world but he’s not ACC material, no point in playing him anymore at this point

 

[Orangefan1]

When I compare a QB to Cameron Dantley and wonder who was better you know there is a problem

 

[IHeartSUFball]

Fran and Nixon suck

 

[Blanko97]

Thank god I’m busy next week. This kid is a dud and I have no idea why Fran is sticking with him. I’m sure he’s a nice kid but it’s obvious the players don’t respect him

 

[tep624]

Thank god I’m busy next week. This kid is a dud and I have no idea why Fran is sticking with him. I’m sure he’s a nice kid but it’s obvious the players don’t respect him

Yeah if Rickie is starting the rest of the year then I’m not wasting my time. I’ll wait until next season, because this season is completely lost if that’s the case.

If they’re going to start Carney then I’ll tune in just because I want to see what he can do. But I’m done watching Rickie Collins.

 

[baggerbob]

Yeah if Rickie is starting the rest of the year then I’m not wasting my time. I’ll wait until next season, because this season is completely lost if that’s the case.

If they’re going to start Carney then I’ll tune in just because I want to see what he can do. But I’m done watching Rickie Collins.

Rickie just might not win a game as a starting QB at Syracuse.

 

[tep624]

Rickie just might not win a game as a starting QB at Syracuse.

My last shred of hope was getting Luke in yesterday to get “his feet wet” so he can start the remainder of the season.

I wish Rickie would lose our number

 

[AZOrange]

I feel bad for Rickie. To have your whole life dreams culminate this way is terrible

 

[cusefan88]

I feel bad for Rickie. To have your whole life dreams culminate this way is terrible

He got boo'd by his own fans at home. I understand why but you just shouldn't do that. A really bad look for Cuse IMO.

 

[OrangeinBoston]

I feel bad for Rickie. To have your whole life dreams culminate this way is terrible

Growing up requires that we acknowledge our strengths and weaknesses and chart a way forward. That's where Rickie is now.