roster / injury report for WMU ?

[orangezen]

havent seen one .. whois in or out ?

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Week 4 Depth Chart for WMU

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[RF2044]

Servais back at LT.

Here's hoping Heckel is healthy / a full go.

 

[orangezen]

Week 4 Depth Chart for WMU

syracusefan.com

thanks

 

[Chip]

Servais back at LT.

Here's hoping Heckel is healthy / a full go.

Can he play RT too?

 

[gmoney44]

Can he play RT too?

Can he play LT, RT and C at the same time?

 

[sutomcat]

Servais back at LT.

Here's hoping Heckel is healthy / a full go.

I think Dino indicated a big reason we have not run tempo so far this year is because Alexander can’t handle it. If Heckel can play, sounds like Carlos moves to RT and running tempo is possible. Would be huge for several reasons...

 

[SWC75]

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They have a lot of people out, most of them for the season. But looking at their two deep in Athlon, I see the following:

Trevor Campbell is listed as the second string center.
Corvin Moment was supposed to be their middle linebacker.
Wesley French was to be their nose tackle.
Ken Aguirre was his back-up.

So they might be vulnerable up the middle.

 

[RF2044]

I think Dino indicated a big reason we have not run tempo so far this year is because Alexander can’t handle it. If Heckel can play, sounds like Carlos moves to RT and running tempo is possible. Would be huge for several reasons...

personally, I'm very disappointed in Alexander. When he got work almost exclusively at left tackle in camp, I thought there was a chance he was going to prove to be very good. So for him to emerge is a non-factor, admittedly early, is disappointing

 

[Chip]

I think Dino indicated a big reason we have not run tempo so far this year is because Alexander can’t handle it. If Heckel can play, sounds like Carlos moves to RT and running tempo is possible. Would be huge for several reasons...

Was he the guy with the red face from Dino’s comment on the radio show?

Is there no one else who is somewhat ready to play (which is how I would describe Alexander anyway) who is also in shape enough to keep up with the tempo?

 

[W'boro'Cuse315]

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They have a lot of people out, most of them for the season. But looking at their two deep in Athlon, I see the following:

Trevor Campbell is listed as the second string center.
Corvin Moment was supposed to be their middle linebacker.
Wesley French was to be their nose tackle.
Ken Aguirre was his back-up.

So they might be vulnerable up the middle.

Lester: “Is anyone else out this week?”

WM Head Trainer: “Just a Moment...”

 

[kcsu]

Our OL run like Deer. And so far inside the 5 yard line block like Bambi. Need to find a happy medium.

 

[SUFan44]

Was he the guy with the red face from Dino’s comment on the radio show?

Is there no one else who is somewhat ready to play (which is how I would describe Alexander anyway) who is also in shape enough to keep up with the tempo?

Agreed. Really tough to understand how we can’t have 8 guys ready to play at that position each year. Given there are 14-16 of them on scholarship each year, you’d think 5 would be decent?

 

[SWC75]

Agreed. Really tough to understand how we can’t have 8 guys ready to play at that position each year. Given there are 14-16 of them on scholarship each year, you’d think 5 would be decent?

From my pre-season preview:

Offensive line
Seniors: Evan Adams 6-6 352; Ryan Alexander 6-3 307; Andrejas Duerig 6-3 326;
Juniors: Mike Clark 6-8 318; Patrick Davis 6-5 317; Sam Heckel 6-4 280; Airon Servais 6-6 273; Sophomores: Austin Chandler 6-4 303; Dakota Davis 6-5 327; Darius Tisdale 6-4 295
Freshmen: Matthew Bergeron 6-4 311, Wil Froumy 6-6 314; Ryan Kisselstein 6-6 312; Josh Kosciol 6-1 275; Anthony Red 6-5 281; Carlos Vettorello 6-4 283: Qadir White 6-7 336

This is the one unit of the team that raises the most concern but it’s not because it’s likely to be a weakness. We lost three starters and are having to shuffle players around and have once again brought in a grad transfer to shore up the unit. It doesn’t mean they won be an asset to the team. The players cross-train at multiple positons to give Babers versatility. A unit of Servais back at center surrounded by Adams or Heckel and Dakota Davis and then Vettorello and Alexander could be a strong one.

Adams was 326 last year. Do the coaches really want him at 352? Duerig and Clark also added weight. Once you are above 300 I suspect there’s a law of diminishing returns here. Servias is probably our best lineman and he’s a svelte 6-6 273. I still remember the success the Denver Broncos had with ‘undersized’ offensive linemen of 275-280 in the Mike Shanahan Era when they had a whole series of backs become 1,000 yard rushers. Get there first with the most men! But Baber’s full out practices will sort things out.

Servais “plans to bulk out during camp” per Syracuse.com. “Servais brings versatility and mobility on an NFL frame.” He’s been playing center and is experimenting with a shift to tackle. He’s been a starter since he was a freshman and was named preseason All-ACC second team by Athlon. They had Adams as a third teamer, (they list him as being 341). The only other O-lineman with starting experience is Heckel, who is coming off an injury in the spring and has been held out of practice early in the fall with an “unspecified injury”. (Do they hurt more than the specified ones?) He also has a rare blood disorder that requires plasma injections to make up for lack of an enzyme. Syracuse was one of the rare schools to give him a chance to play football and it’s paid off. He started at guard as a freshman when Aaron Roberts got hurt and was the third guard last year when Roberts came back for his senior year.

Alexander is this year’s grad transfer O-lineman, replacing Koda Martin from last year. Martin came from Texas A&M, Alexander from South Alabama but that doesn’t mean Alexander might not be as good or better. I saw a lot of plays last year where Martin was helping his quarterback up after a sack. Alexander was All-Sun Belt honorable mention and SU beat out Penn State, Texas and Iowa, among others for his services. He has 28 game starts under his belt. Insidetheloudhouse.com: “The first thing that jumps out to me is Alexander’s ability to seal the edge and get linebackers sucked up at the line of scrimmage. This is very useful for plays that are designed to go to the outside, trying to get the edge getting athletes out in space. While Syracuse tends to run the ball up the middle, they do still use the bubble screen to get their shifty receivers out in space…appears to have good feet, getting off the ball well, especially in run-blocking. He fires off the ball on the snap engaging with his blocking assignment. Upon his contact, he is an extremely physical tackle who plays through the whistle. His highlight tape is filled with blocks of him knocking defensive ends, linebackers, and defensive backs on their butt. “

I’ve been waiting for Dakota Davis to get his shot. From last year’s preview: “He is, as they say a “beast”: Syracuse.com calls him “a road grader who teammates say sometimes run-blocks defensive players 25 yards downfield”. He told his hometown newspaper: “It’s fun to pancake people and break other people’s will play after play.” He played 50 offensive snaps last year and saw a lot of action blocking for our successful kicks. Syracuse.com this year: “The road grader shed 14 pounds from his listed weight on the spring ball roster and looked noticeably trimmer… Davis may be the most ready lineman among returners without starting experience.”

“Vettorello is viewed by the staff as a player with potential. He endured a rough spring, working as a first-team tackle against two of the ACC's best pass rushers in Kendall Coleman and Alton Robinson.” Carlos used the 4 game redshirt rule last year, an indication that the staff sees him as a future starter. Practicing against Coleman and Robinson might not be pleasant but we won’t see anybody better lining up for the other teams.

White was supposed to be a package deal with another 4 star tackle prospect, Tyrone Sampson but Tyrone bugged out for Fresno State at the last moment. Both of them redshirted and didn’t play at all last year, which is interesting considering their reputation. Syracuse.com: “One of the most highly touted recruits of the Babers era, White has quietly been developing behind the scenes. He's gradually losing weight and gaining endurance.”

Duerig is “one of the strongest players on the team” and has played in 37 games – all as a reserve, which is still likely to be his status, barring injuries. Like Heckel he’s missed some practice early due to an injury, (unspecified, of course), of his own. Pat Davis “appeared in seven games last fall, primarily as part of the punt unit.” Clark has “seen action in 15 games” but “worked behind two younger players this spring.” Froumy redshirted last year. He was a 3 star recruit. Bergeron was “rated the #2 prospect in Canada” but “even with positions to fill, he'll likely spend his first year on campus conditioning for SU's tempo offense -- a standard Year 1 experience for offensive linemen under Babers.” Tisdale was “rated the #20 JUCO offensive tackle last cycle”. Red “like Vettorello, spent the spring getting ripped apart by premier pass rushers. It was a learning experience, and if he grows into what the staff believes he can, one he'll likely look back on fondly.”

Matthew Bergeron was another late recruit from Canada with excellent credentials: “No. 2 overall prospect from Canada, according to ESPN.com … Rated among the top offensive tackles in his class by ESPN (No. 69), (No. 73) and the 247Sports.com composite index (No. 81)”

Chandler, Kisselstein and Kosciol are all walk-ons, although Chandler has gained a fair amount of experience in his three years here.


Comment: If the guys we have been using can't get the job done vs. WMU, maybe it's time to give Duerig, White, Bergeron, Tisdale and Froumy a closer look.

 

[orange44]

Totally agree with your point of view and I feel the same way about our receivers!

 

[GreekFreak]

Iffy not dressed.

 

[GreekFreak]

Heckel not dressed.

 

[Orangtiz]

Iffy and Cisco both OUT

 

[Cuse'91]

Iffy is so rugged looking, but proving to be fragile...

 

[SUalldway]

Iffy and Cisco both OUT

Next Men Up!

 

[OrangeDW]

I’m curious how Q. White is coming along in practice.

4 star recruit. This is his second year in the program. Hoping he’s on track to be a big factor in the somewhat near future?

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Iffy is so rugged looking, but proving to be fragile...

Wait, why?

 

[OrangeXtreme]