Rutgers matchup questions/thoughts/guesses

[DoctahLexus]

I have a Rutgers question... why does the game start so damn late? 9:30? On a Tuesday? After a Bills Monday nighter?

The 'Bing opens at 9:30.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I lived in Mountain Time for awhile and was not a weekend warrior yet...

NFL Sunday’s were amazing... 11 am kick offs, get to the bar an hour or so before game time for some bloodies with a side omelette and hash browns.

Sunday night football was done by 9:30.

Yeah, mountain time zone is awesome for sports.

Local Syracuse fans hate noon kickoffs and tipoffs, but when you're in MST and can wake up, have a leisurely morning and breakfast, turn on the game at 10 and be done with plenty of day left, it's pretty great.

 

[Orangezoo]

Yeah, mountain time zone is awesome for sports.

Local Syracuse fans hate noon kickoffs and tipoffs, but when you're in MST and can wake up, have a leisurely morning and breakfast, turn on the game at 10 and be done with plenty of day left, it's pretty great.

And for tourney time, early games no matter what time zone, when we get a win make for the most enjoyable game watching the rest of the afternoon and evening.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[CuseFaninVT]

And for tourney time, early games no matter what time zone, when we get a win make for the most enjoyable game watching the rest of the afternoon and evening.

But losses can turn into some really bad day-drinkin'.

 

[Orangezoo]

But losses can turn into some really bad day-drinkin'.

Hey now let's not go there...

 

[Trueblue25]

We have 15 fouls to spare from our centers. Let them get in there and tussle for a few minutes at a time.

This. This should be huge. Not to mention how active Alan and Q are down low.

 

[NateW]

But losses can turn into some really bad day-drinkin'.

Exhibit A (for me anyways: ) The Blake Griffin game.

Booze was a bad choice.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

Thats just not true haha

They’re seven spots higher than us on Kenpom and we’re 5 spots higher on Torvik. AP poll rankings are meaningless, just something to feel good about.

With Marek on the floor we’re a matchup nightmare for most teams in college basketball

Why are AP rankings any more meaningless than Kenpom or whatever Torvik is?

 

[UpstateSM]

Why are AP rankings any more meaningless than Kenpom or whatever Torvik is?

Kenpom and Torvik provide objective, number-based analysis and predictive metrics that tell you something about teams and the games that they play while AP rankings are a compilation of lists that beat writers who focus on single teams/conferences make

 

[Orangezoo]

The obvious objective with any game is to win. Given our predicament with two starters out, I am looking more to see if this is a carbon copy of PSU/Okie state or if we are a better team who can beat a team like this. Last year it was clear we were not going to win OSU/PSU/Iowa far before the final whistle. That is the other change I am looking for. Obviously winning the game settles that but being down two starters to their 1, I am looking at how competitive we are as well.

 

[ssbriefcase]

The obvious objective with any game is to win. Given our predicament with two starters out, I am looking more to see if this is a carbon copy of PSU/Okie state or if we are a better team who can beat a team like this. Last year it was clear we were not going to win OSU/PSU/Iowa far before the final whistle. That is the other change I am looking for. Obviously winning the game settles that but being down two starters to their 1, I am looking at how competitive we are as well.

I’m mostly hoping our rebounding and pg are real. I’m not counting on anything from the flashes of the other youngins yet.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

Kenpom and Torvik provide objective, number-based analysis and predictive metrics that tell you something about teams and the games that they play while AP rankings are a compilation of lists that beat writers who focus on single teams/conferences make

This early in the season, none of the rankings mean anything more than the others. There are no real results to compare, so who cares if their analysis is more complete?

 

[AZOrange]

I’m thinking this is a 2010 UNC type game for us. Where we take Rutgers to the woodshed and expose what we have this year. CBB is down this year...could be a special year

 

[UpstateSM]

This early in the season, none of the rankings mean anything more than the others. There are no real results to compare, so who cares if their analysis is more complete?

So you think Rutgers is better because they’re ranked and we’re not? Genuinely asking because that was your initial point

 

[CuseFaninVT]

So you think Rutgers is better because they’re ranked and we’re not? Genuinely asking because that was your initial point

They've been consistently ranked higher than us since before the season started, so yes. I also think the games we've played haven't really done anything to vault us over them. Kadary is a potential game changer though.

 

[lindros2]

We have 15 fouls to spare from our centers. Let them get in there and tussle for a few minutes at a time.

Do coaches think this way too?

 

[NKR1978]

Exhibit A (for me anyways: ) The Blake Griffin game.

Booze was a bad choice.

Never being in that game saved me some heartbreak. I loved that 09 team though. It was sad to see that year end. I can't wait for the next team like that one in terms of getting us back to the top 15/normal after some down years.

 

[Cuse House]

I watched Rutgers last game, the vast majority of their points came from right next to the rim. If we can be active at the top of the zone and limit easy entrance passes, I think Rutgers will struggle to score. Just watch the highlights from their last game, they had to have 15 dunks.

 

[Cusefan0307]

I’m thinking this is a 2010 UNC type game for us. Where we take Rutgers to the woodshed and expose what we have this year. CBB is down this year...could be a special year

It would be so Syracuse to have a great team during a pandemic in a season that might not even get played to conclusion.

 

[lindros2]

It would be so Syracuse to have a great team during a pandemic in a season that might not even get played to conclusion.

Like... 2019-20?

 

[NKR1978]

It would be so Syracuse to have a great team during a pandemic in a season that might not even get played to conclusion.

Well, we could be Rutgers. Suffer a 30 year NCAA drought and 13 straight losing seasons and have what was likely to be an NCAA bid lost to COVID. I actually feel bad for their basketball fans.

 

[721Comstock]

Well, we could be Rutgers. Suffer a 30 year NCAA drought and 13 straight losing seasons and have what was likely to be an NCAA bid lost to COVID. I actually feel bad for their basketball fans.

Annnnnnnd - I've over it!

Let's give them a legit reason to feel bad, with a big ol' L, for old times' sake.
Jonny Flynn says HI!

 

[NKR1978]

Annnnnnnd - I've over it!

Let's give them a legit reason to feel bad, with a big ol' L, for old times' sake.
Jonny Flynn says HI!

Here's a walk down memory lane from the Rutgers board:

"Nice to see some of you are optimistic - I personally am forever scarred by this matchup. Sure, we beat the Carmelo team. But I also remember the horrors of:

a) The Hakim Warrick full court press comeback game (washed away RUs 20 pt halftime lead in 2 mins at the RAC)
b) Terrence Roberts’ OT buzzer beater (his 5th career 3 that cost the NCAAs in all likelihood
c) The Johnny Flynn dunk on Mike Rosario that was to me, the official commencement of the downward spiral to come

It’s a new era but these live in my brain. Hopefully we smash them and create new memories"

 

[Briancuse]

Well, we could be Rutgers. Suffer a 30 year NCAA drought and 13 straight losing seasons and have what was likely to be an NCAA bid lost to COVID. I actually feel bad for their basketball fans.

No one on this board hates Rutgirls as much as me, but I felt bad for them too, they had some good wins they deserved to finally see their name on Selection Sunday.