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Ryan Cabiles Canned / Robert Harris new Director of S&C

Cheriehoop said:
According to AI (if correct) incentives are allowed. (See below) I will admit I’m not totally sold unlike others to the accuracy of AI. Interesting regardless.
  • “NIL deals and incentives:
    NIL deals are agreements between college athletes and companies or individuals where the athlete's name, image, and likeness are used to promote a product or service. These deals can include a base salary, performance bonuses, or other incentives tied to specific achievements or activities.

  • Examples of incentives:
    Incentives could be tied to things like:
    • Performance: Achieving a certain number of wins, points, or other statistical milestones.

    • Social media engagement:Reaching a certain number of followers or achieving high engagement rates on social media.

    • Brand awareness: Contributing to increased brand awareness or sales through their NIL activities.”
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you can’t make NIL based on incentives.
 
Zelda Zonk said:
AI is dumb. But I kinda think AI is just ‘playing dumb.’ For a while. So we don’t get too scared of it. So we let down our guards. And then WHOMP! It takes over and makes us slaves.
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Right now, AI is as smart as the average of humans searching and posting stuff online. So, not very. AI is less AI and more ‘information aggregator and guesser.’
 
Thank you Cherie, well thought out post. Sort of, like a medical provider who is dealing with patients. It is truly a relationship, however if the patient does not incorporate suggestions or at least recognize the need to, the doctor's advice will provide little to no benefit. All health and wellness initiatives must be patient-driven with the skill, expertise, and plan, however laid out by the provider... Lots of fun actually if you have an amazing relationship. I agree there must be player responsibility, especially in this age of the professional collegiate athlete. I, however, suspect your rational discussion will be swept under the rug in favor of the excuse makers and blame gamers. I think coach Autry should honestly start monitoring silverware and make unannounced pizza checks. I for 1 am extremely grateful we have a nutritionist. I hope she is utilized; if she reads the board, we appreciate your work, good fuel coupled with knowledge is life-changing.
 
According to the Athletics site, it's still Cabiles, LOL...

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Hopkins16 said:
Strange that an S&C coach hasn’t been hired yet. We better have one by the time the players arrive this summer or else it’s Archie’s, Varsity, Acropolis (Are they even still around?) or whatever is on Marshall Street.
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To be fair, I don’t think an S&C coach is keeping players from eating where they want.
 
SimonSays said:
you can’t make NIL based on incentives.
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  • Third-party NIL deals: Athletes can negotiate NIL deals with businesses or brands that include incentives based on maintaining a certain level of fitness, achieving performance goals, or engaging in activities that promote a healthy lifestyle.
 
sufandu said:
But specified goals do. It's pretty common for college athletes to be told they are supposed to make a certain weight and body fat measurement... or at least it used to be.
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Goals certainly can inform their decisions.

FWIW, the players we tend to get usually aren’t the types who need to cut weight; they’re on the other end of that spectrum.
 
The second half of games last year was enough to clean house.
If she’s still employed it’s another feather in Red’s cap
 
Pretty sure they had a long initial list already in play when the news broke. Assuming they have been interviewing and will have someone in the next few weeks.
 
Need to have them working out with the football team for strength and agility than in the gym for basketball specific drills. Each player needs to add between 10 and 20 pounds of muscle.
 
Brooky03 said:
Goals certainly can inform their decisions.

FWIW, the players we tend to get usually aren’t the types who need to cut weight; they’re on the other end of that spectrum.
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Goals don't have to be about cutting weight. They can be to add weight too. Then you tie them to body fat numbers to ensure it's good weight.
 
sufandu said:
Goals don't have to be about cutting weight. They can be to add weight too. Then you tie them to body fat numbers to ensure it's good weight.
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Yes. The post that triggered this was about the players eating where they want and an S&C coach having little control over that. If they’re given a weight/fat cutting goal, yes, eating like garbage will probably show up on the scale. If they’re told to bulk, their effort in the weight room will be the difference maker.

Gaining weight with muscle is a calories in-calories out proposition. As we all know, assuming adequate protein intake (which is solved by just a handful of protein scoops, sometimes not even that), where the rest of the calories come from matters significantly less. Pizza, for example, is a great food for bulking often used by bodybuilders and strength athletes. Fried chicken works, pasta works, dairy is good.
 
Brooky03 said:
Yes. The post that triggered this was about the players eating where they want and an S&C coach having little control over that. If they’re given a weight/fat cutting goal, yes, eating like garbage will probably show up on the scale. If they’re told to bulk, their effort in the weight room will be the difference maker.

Gaining weight with muscle is a calories in-calories out proposition. As we all know, assuming adequate protein intake (which is solved by just a handful of protein scoops, sometimes not even that), where the rest of the calories come from matters significantly less. Pizza, for example, is a great food for bulking often used by bodybuilders and strength athletes. Fried chicken works, pasta works, dairy is good.
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Not sure why you're giving me a nutrition lesson.

That post you reference suggests the staff, including the S&C coach, cannot control a players nutrition. While it's technically true players can't be held by the hand and prevented from eating junk, to say some form of control can't be exerted is false. Other programs do it. So can we. It just hasn't been done in the past because we had a hands off coach running the program. A culture can be changed. If Fran can do it with 105 players. Red and his staff can do it with 15.
 
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sufandu said:
Not sure why you're giving me a nutrition lesson.

That post you reference suggests the staff, including the S&C coach, cannot control a players nutrition. While it's technically true players can't be held by the hand and prevented from eating junk, to say some form of control can't be exerted is false. Other programs do it. So can we. It just hasn't been done in the past because we had a hands off coach running the program. A culture can be changed. If Fran can do it with 105 players. Red and his staff can do it with 15.
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That remains to be seen. He was part of that "hands off" culture so he has to implement something completely new and different with his own cultural stamp.

At least he is saying the right things. Hopefully his actions will follow.
 
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