Class of 2019 S Cornelius Nunn Jr (FL) SIGNED NLI TO SYRACUSE 12/19/18

[Trueblue25]

I mean, we replaced those guys but not with better players...

Remains to be seen

 

[bnoro]

Remains to be seen

it won't be seen because one is playing at a mid major and the other might not play d1 college fb. But Sampson & Jordan would have been contributors if they had made it here...

But back to Cornelius. Definitely encouraging tweets from him of late but I remain skeptical. Unless Miami gave him a deadline to flip and then pulled his offer I still think there's a long battle.

 

[sdhall01]

it won't be seen because one is playing at a mid major and the other might not play d1 college fb. But Sampson & Jordan would have been contributors if they had made it here...

But back to Cornelius. Definitely encouraging tweets from him of late but I remain skeptical. Unless Miami gave him a deadline to flip and then pulled his offer I still think there's a long battle.

I’m not trying to put words in your mouth. However, it seems like Howard is likely to contribute faster than Jordan would have. No way Jordan was sniffing the field for two years (155lbs as a RB in the ACC? Please). Howard is physically ready now.

That doesn’t mean Jordan doesnt have a higher upside (though, honestly, I don’t see it). It just means that Howard has the physical tools to contribute faster than Jordan. Also, if we wanted a speedy 155lb person consistently running the ball, then we would have let Riley run it last year.

 

[PhatOrange]

I don't think he flips to Miami unless a bag of cash finds it's way into his home.

 

[Trueblue25]

I just believe there’s a difference between prospect and player

 

[bnoro]

I’m not trying to put words in your mouth. However, it seems like Howard is likely to contribute faster than Jordan would have. No way Jordan was sniffing the field for two years (155lbs as a RB in the ACC? Please). Howard is physically ready now.

That doesn’t mean Jordan doesnt have a higher upside (though, honestly, I don’t see it). It just means that Howard has the physical tools to contribute faster than Jordan. Also, if we wanted a speedy 155lb person consistently running the ball, then we would have let Riley run it last year.

I like Howard but in terms of pure talent, Jordan was electric and would have been our best player in space almost immediately.

 

[rackman18]

I’m not trying to put words in your mouth. However, it seems like Howard is likely to contribute faster than Jordan would have. No way Jordan was sniffing the field for two years (155lbs as a RB in the ACC? Please). Howard is physically ready now.

That doesn’t mean Jordan doesnt have a higher upside (though, honestly, I don’t see it). It just means that Howard has the physical tools to contribute faster than Jordan. Also, if we wanted a speedy 155lb person consistently running the ball, then we would have let Riley run it last year.

I couldn't agree any more. Howard is I believe going to be a stud and a workhorse.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I’m not trying to put words in your mouth. However, it seems like Howard is likely to contribute faster than Jordan would have. No way Jordan was sniffing the field for two years (155lbs as a RB in the ACC? Please). Howard is physically ready now.

That doesn’t mean Jordan doesnt have a higher upside (though, honestly, I don’t see it). It just means that Howard has the physical tools to contribute faster than Jordan. Also, if we wanted a speedy 155lb person consistently running the ball, then we would have let Riley run it last year.

Have we actually heard anything about Howard yet? I mean, the guy takes a nice picture, but has anybody said anything about how good he actually is?

 

[sdhall01]

Have we actually heard anything about Howard yet? I mean, the guy takes a nice picture, but has anybody said anything about how good he actually is?

Not that I know of. This is all based strictly on the fact that Howard is physically ready at 5’10 210. Jordan, on the other hand, was like 5’10” 155. They both had nice film (but I loved Howard’s blocking for this offense).

In short, Howard needs to understand our offense before he can play, but he is physically ready now. Jordan would have needed two years minimum to merely be PHYSICALLY ready.

EDIT: Jawhar Jordan is taller than I thought. 5'10''

 

[CuseLegacy]

Have we actually heard anything about Howard yet? I mean, the guy takes a nice picture, but has anybody said anything about how good he actually is?

No. Just the usual " he is going to be a star" before he has played a down of college football talk.

 

[sdhall01]

No. Just the usual " he is going to be a star" before he has played a down of college football talk.

That’s what’s fun though! We get to speculate wildly about the potential success of two players that will never be side by side when neither have played a down of college ball.

 

[rackman18]

That’s what’s fun though! We get to speculate wildly about the potential success of two players that will never be side by side when neither have played a down of college ball.

I said it about Alabama's QB Tua Tagovailoa , before he even landed one foot on the team.

 

[721Comstock]

I said it about Alabama's QB Tua Tagovailoa , before he even landed one foot on the team.

You speculated wildly about the potential success of a top-ranked QB recruit, playing at the best college program in the country?
Wow - way to go out on a limb there!

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I like Howard but in terms of pure talent, Jordan was electric and would have been our best player in space almost immediately.

I think this is true.

 

[Trueblue25]

I said it about Alabama's QB Tua Tagovailoa , before he even landed one foot on the team.

Brave

 

[rackman18]

You speculated wildly about the potential success of a top-ranked QB recruit, playing at the best college program in the country?
Wow - way to go out on a limb there!

Sure is

 

[bnoro]

Not that I know of. This is all based strictly on the fact that Howard is physically ready at 5’10 210. Jordan, on the other hand, was like 5’6” 155. They both had nice film (but I loved Howard’s blocking for this offense).

In short, Howard needs to understand our offense before he can play, but he is physically ready now. Jordan would have needed two years minimum to merely be PHYSICALLY ready.

Jordan was also 5'10". Listed at 160 but easily could have been 185 before the season with a full summer. He would have been bigger than Moe as a freshman, and Moe played as a freshman.

Not that it matters anymore, since Jawhar isn't coming, but let's not create a narrative that's simply not true.

 

[CA Monk]

Bnoro keeping us on point.
If I'm elected to anything he can be my press secretary.

 

[sdhall01]

Jordan was also 5'10". Listed at 160 but easily could have been 185 before the season with a full summer. He would have been bigger than Moe as a freshman, and Moe played as a freshman.

Not that it matters anymore, since Jawhar isn't coming, but let's not create a narrative that's simply not true.

I was going from memory on Jordan. I legitimately didn't realize he was that tall (I edited my post). Regardless, putting 25 lbs on even after a full summer seems a bit steep. Regardless, maybe you're right.

 

[SmilinBob]

I mean, we replaced those guys but not with better players...

Maybe...we'll see if either of those 2 make an impact for any school.

 

[SmilinBob]

Also, we didn't lose Sampson...

He ain't on the roster. Semantics.

 

[CuseLegacy]

 

[bnoro]

Maybe...we'll see if either of those 2 make an impact for any school.

Their performance at another school can't be compared to what they could have done at SU.

 

[djorange1989]

I don't think he flips to Miami unless a bag of cash finds it's way into his home.

so, you're saying he is going to flip?

 

[CuseLegacy]