OrangeXtreme
The Mayor of Dewitt
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Were we not 20-12?You all need to stop with the "20 wins!" BS too, we had 19. Full stop.
Isn’t it an indictment more than a credit? That he did better with the last guy’s players than with his own? Either way the trend is still steeply downward, and that’s down from a not very good position. Another year, for what? To trust/believe groundlessly that this year was an aberration? Or for him to learn basketball? To hope that a recruiting class can perform well enough to overcome the lack of coaching? To hope Melo buys enough top portal talent to overcome the lack of an offensive scheme and defensive technique?If Red had 2 horrible years in a row, I would agree with you. Last year was good for a 1st year coach who inherited a roster that he didn't build, guys who saw him as the good cop and an assistant from the year before who may not have treated him respectfully as a coach, malcontents such as Benny (dropped from team mid-season) and Copeland who we later learned was a handful. This year was a total miss on the portal guys and a step backwards. The comparisons to Payne is vastly unfair - The guy deserves another year.
I think the win against Chaminade gave us the 20th win, but the tournament doesn’t count that as a win because they are a division 2 school.Were we not 20-12?
Ah. Thank you.I think the win against Chaminade gave us the 20th win, but the tournament doesn’t count that as a win because they are a division 2 school.
I guess the patience, respect and understanding for most on this board was fully spent on JB. When I was hard on him since 2015 and thought he overstayed his welcome in 2016, he hung on for several more years and dragged the program deep into the toilet. Meanwhile, a lot of posters, though upset, would say a lot of reverential foolery such as "he is the program" "he built it from the ground up and so he should be able to go out on his own terms or whenever he's ready." Now Red is on the shortest leash. I wonder if McNamara was the coach instead of Red, with the same exact situation as Red, would he be given more leeway and understanding?Isn’t it an indictment more than a credit? That he did better with the last guy’s players than with his own? Either way the trend is still steeply downward, and that’s down from a not very good position. Another year, for what? To trust/believe groundlessly that this year was an aberration? Or for him to learn basketball? To hope that a recruiting class can perform well enough to overcome the lack of coaching? To hope Melo buys enough top portal talent to overcome the lack of an offensive scheme and defensive technique?
Why should we keep hoping for the perfect formulation of new toys to overcome the basic, foundational issue?
Hey admin boss, can you ask these folks to take the Red convo over to the BBall board and this needs to be only for Sadiq White, thank you?
I'm no O79 (who is?)...but will say it here - Sadiq White people!
(insert Al Roker eyes picture here)
Its hard not to be excited aboutKid is a natural leader also. In the article he states about the recruiting class and also JJ being there next year along with Donnie possibly coming back. There will be some excitement if that all comes true
It is when you realize who's probably coaching themIts hard not to be excited about
Transfer PG/Fennell
JJ/Choppa
Kiyan
Freeman/Sadiq
1 Mil Transfer C/Petar
Thats why i dont want to get excitedIt is when you realize who's probably coaching them
I wouldnt plan on DonnieIts hard not to be excited about
Transfer PG/Fennell
JJ/Choppa
Kiyan
Freeman/Sadiq
1 Mil Transfer C/Petar
Don't worry. We won't plan on anybody on the current roster. That is what this sh!tshow is now...and I obviously don't mean just our team.I wouldnt plan on Donnie
If we are starting Kiyan, Sadiq and Fennell we aren’t winning sht.Its hard not to be excited about
Transfer PG/Fennell
JJ/Choppa
Kiyan
Freeman/Sadiq
1 Mil Transfer C/Petar