I said that line once and like I said it wasn't even directed at you but whatever stay mad about that and keep bringing it up. I'm not retiring anything as soon as possible. I'm free to say anything I want, just like you. I can't speak for others on how they'll react from now on but if anybody want to cover a recruits flaws in depth then feel free to do so, it's not that serious of an issue.Not going to speak for Paul but what I don't care for is when you pull the "haters gonna hate" BS. Please retire that line as quickly as possible. As an SU fan I want to hear all of the good and all of the bad when someone goes to watch an SU recruit or potential recruit. I don't consider it hating when somebody covers the flaws in depth.
It wasnt directed towards you or anyone in this thread. Ive never once seen Francis attack anyone on here and ive been here since day 1. You misinterpreted it .bpo57 said:Not going to speak for Paul but what I don't care for is when you pull the "haters gonna hate" BS. Please retire that line as quickly as possible. As an SU fan I want to hear all of the good and all of the bad when someone goes to watch an SU recruit or potential recruit. I don't consider it hating when somebody covers the flaws in depth.
I really don't believe we will ever see that action on the court. I've not seen any "lazy" kids playing for the Orange. They may have been slow but not what I would call lazy showing no hustle. At least to my memory which isn't all that bad considering other factors. Regarding McCullough, the only thing I worry about a little is that some A-hole offers him too much to return next season. He would be huge for the next season's success Scoring defense and boards are what he will contribute IF he returns It makes sense that he will but lets face facts "making sense " is never a kid's predictable move in some cases See Tyler Ennis!I think JB would feel otherwise.
I hope 3 of you realize he will be 20 his frosh year. he also chose to spend an extra year in middle school, all for one reason, to be ready for his frosh year. To say he's bored is an understatement because he totally is. Wouldn't you be playing against kids 2-4 yrs younger than you? He will be immediate impact to the team. put it on record.Not going to speak for Paul but what I don't care for is when you pull the "haters gonna hate" BS. Please retire that line as quickly as possible. As an SU fan I want to hear all of the good and all of the bad when someone goes to watch an SU recruit or potential recruit. I don't consider it hating when somebody covers the flaws in depth.
It wasnt directed towards you or anyone in this thread. Ive never once seen Francis attack anyone on here and ive been here since day 1. You misinterpreted it .
Again, he wasn't directing that towards you or other posters. He was directing that to others from MR's area in a general sense.
I hope 3 of you realize he will be 20 his frosh year. he also chose to spend an extra year in middle school, all for one reason, to be ready for his frosh year. To say he's bored is an understatement because he totally is. Wouldn't you be playing against kids 2-4 yrs younger than you? He will be immediate impact to the team. put it on record.
Like x 10000000I really don't understand this silly beef and complaining you're doing about the recruiting board here. For over the past 5-6 years we have been fortunate enough to have the majority of recruits come in and contribute at a high level within their first few years. Flynn, Greene, Scoop, Waiters, MCW, Ennis, RJ, AO, Rautins, Triche, K-Jo, Fab, BMK, CJ, etc. Does the board get any credit for that? Fans have been spoiled with the fact that when it has become the next man up, they're used to the replacement stepping his game up and filling the shoes of the previous player. Unfortunately this was the first season where the next man up didn't work out and our freshman and soph's struggled for the most part. Your reasoning for blaming this board is so way off based. When it comes to the 2013 class, most here knew outside of Ennis and T-Rob not to expect much from BJ, Buss, and Chino within the first few years. Everybody knew Chino was very raw coming in and that BJ was not physically ready. The overall consensus even till this day was that he should've redshirted. If you lurked long enough as you claim, you would know why a certain amount of people got excited about BJ, and I seriously doubt you would ever direct anything to that person. When it comes to the freshman, your displeasure should be with the coach. When you're calling a recruit like he did with CMac, the best player coming in since Melo, then that creates expectations that holds more weight and value than anybody on here. KJ was recruited to be Ennis backup for a year or 2. I dunno where you have been, but people spent more time complaining about Ennis leaving than hyping up KJ. So expectations couldn't have been that high for him coming in. Plus you keep talking about people bashing players. Have you seen the post game conferences this year? JB has embarrassed more players publicly than anybody on this board could. I really doubt you've lurked around here all that long, because if you did then you would know that bashing and complaining is what most do on this board daily. Some still hold a personal grudge on Donte Greene for leaving early, half the fan base hated Scoop/Dion, before making it to the final four MCW was considered to be our worst PG since James Thues, and there is a long thread on that ridiculous debate. The Cooney haters vs the Cooney lovers has gone on for three seasons now and it's tiring. I've seen plenty of nonsense get tossed around on various threads, but the recruiting forum being the cause of it is just hilarious to me.
I really don't believe we will ever see that action on the court. I've not seen any "lazy" kids playing for the Orange. They may have been slow but not what I would call lazy showing no hustle. At least to my memory which isn't all that bad considering other factors. Regarding McCullough, the only thing I worry about a little is that some A-hole offers him too much to return next season. He would be huge for the next season's success Scoring defense and boards are what he will contribute IF he returns It makes sense that he will but lets face facts "making sense " is never a kid's predictable move in some cases See Tyler Ennis!
I hope 3 of you realize he will be 20 his frosh year. he also chose to spend an extra year in middle school, all for one reason, to be ready for his frosh year. To say he's bored is an understatement because he totally is. Wouldn't you be playing against kids 2-4 yrs younger than you? He will be immediate impact to the team. put it on record.
Give me MR any day.I am sure MR will improve a lot right now but if they battled each other tomorrow RP would kick MR's butt all over the court. The only thing MR can do better right now is shoot from the outside. Everything else RP does better. Admittedly though MR will improve a lot in college. For one he'll be in better shape so that maybe a motor will suddenly appear.
It's so dumb. Props to CG though who I disagree with a lot...he's a classy and well thought poster (who I listen to a bit now...and I think we agree on football!).I've got a great idea, everyone. Now it sounds crazy but hear me out: let's chase away by far the best, most connected, absolutely free recruiting insight possible. It's just crazy enough to work!
Give me MR any day.
Give me MR any day.
Francis03 said:I really don't understand this silly beef and complaining you're doing about the recruiting board here. For over the past 5-6 years we have been fortunate enough to have the majority of recruits come in and contribute at a high level within their first few years. Flynn, Greene, Scoop, Waiters, MCW, Ennis, RJ, AO, Rautins, Triche, K-Jo, Fab, BMK, CJ, etc. Does the board get any credit for that? Fans have been spoiled with the fact that when it has become the next man up, they're used to the replacement stepping his game up and filling the shoes of the previous player. Unfortunately this was the first season where the next man up didn't work out and our freshman and soph's struggled for the most part. Your reasoning for blaming this board is so way off based. When it comes to the 2013 class, most here knew outside of Ennis and T-Rob not to expect much from BJ, Buss, and Chino within the first few years. Everybody knew Chino was very raw coming in and that BJ was not physically ready. The overall consensus even till this day was that he should've redshirted. If you lurked long enough as you claim, you would know why a certain amount of people got excited about BJ, and I seriously doubt you would ever direct anything to that person. When it comes to the freshman, your displeasure should be with the coach. When you're calling a recruit like he did with CMac, the best player coming in since Melo, then that creates expectations that holds more weight and value than anybody on here. KJ was recruited to be Ennis backup for a year or 2. I dunno where you have been, but people spent more time complaining about Ennis leaving than hyping up KJ. So expectations couldn't have been that high for him coming in. Plus you keep talking about people bashing players. Have you seen the post game conferences this year? JB has embarrassed more players publicly than anybody on this board could. I really doubt you've lurked around here all that long, because if you did then you would know that bashing and complaining is what most do on this board daily. Some still hold a personal grudge on Donte Greene for leaving early, half the fan base hated Scoop/Dion, before making it to the final four MCW was considered to be our worst PG since James Thues, and there is a long thread on that ridiculous debate. The Cooney haters vs the Cooney lovers has gone on for three seasons now and it's tiring. I've seen plenty of nonsense get tossed around on various threads, but the recruiting forum being the cause of it is just hilarious to me.
Well I have. Your point?You've probably never even watched MR play a minute of basketball.
It's so dumb. Props to CG though who I disagree with a lot...he's a classy and well thought poster (who I listen to a bit now...and I think we agree on football!).
Francis is the bomb on recruiting though...no one close.
Well I have. Your point?
Lol...I have no freaking idea. I don't track HS games watched. Better things to do.Just curious when, where and who were they playing?
Lol...I have no freaking idea. I don't track HS games watched. Better things to do.
I'm trying to understand your bigger point here. I comment on how good Francis is at the recruiting stuff and this is the response? I don't really care if you prefer Patterson over Richardson, although I think you'd be in a tiny minority.