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1958 was the last time we played Cornell in football, I had to look that up, I would have remembered if we played Cornell during my Cuse fandom beginning in 1978. I've got some Cornell ties through friends and family.
I remember going to a game at Cornell to watch SU Football. We had 3 Carloads of friends - it was in maybe the late 70’s. I assumed it was to watch us play Cornell there. In fact a friend who was a grad student there met up with us. Who did we play? I am getting old.

It was 2005 the last time that actually Colgate played Cornell - my bad.
 
I remember going to a game at Cornell to watch SU Football. We had 3 Carloads of friends - it was in maybe the late 70’s. I assumed it was to watch us play Cornell there. In fact a friend who was a grad student there met up with us. Who did we play? I am getting old.

It was 2005 the last time that actually Colgate played Cornell - my bad.
SU played BC at Cornell in 1979 while the Dome was being built.
 
How does the cliche go? "I didn't come to see the officials blow their whistles, I came to see the players play." The same thing can be said for opposing coaches.

I have been to games where teams were coached by legends--John Thompson, Dean Smith Mike K., Bobby Knight, hell, even Bob Cousy. It was not the opposing head coach who coaxed me into the building.
I think there are a lot of people that have gone to games so they could say they saw those coaches. And to say GMac would just be an opposing coach is selling it short. He's GMac.
 
I wonder if that’s on the verge of changing now that the Ivies will be allowed to compete in the FCS playoffs?


The rule was that FCS games only counted if the school offered more than 57 scholarships. The max an FCS school could offer was 63.

Ivies don't offer any athletic scholarships.

No idea how the House settlement changes things.
 
Did we play Siena when Louis Orr coached them? And he was one of JB's favorite players and a fan favorite as well. And I don't see anyone wanting badly not to play them. It appears to me just the opposite. People want to play them and the rest of us don't care. We haven't played them in years and years.
We didn't do it when Orr was there, yet we played Eastern Michigan 5 times in 7 years after Rob Murphy went there. We had nothing to gain and the fanbase had no reason to care about that game, so it's not all that crazy a thought to bring in a GMac team.

Man, for so many people not caring, I've seen a lot of posts stating we shouldn't do it.

I just don't get how scheduling them is any worse than the scrubs we have on the schedule every year. The GMac piece just adds a little fun.
 
We didn't do it when Orr was there, yet we played Eastern Michigan 5 times in 7 years after Rob Murphy went there. We had nothing to gain and the fanbase had no reason to care about that game, so it's not all that crazy a thought to bring in a GMac team.

Man, for so many people not caring, I've seen a lot of posts stating we shouldn't do it.

I just don't get how scheduling them is any worse than the scrubs we have on the schedule every year. The GMac piece just adds a little fun.
The reason you see me responding is quite frankly because you keep responding to posts that I write. The only one that seems to really care about this is you. And for the record, I haven't said we shouldn't do it. Just that it doesn't do anything for us. You keep saying that we would have a little fun with it. Until this thread, I haven't given a second thought to Siena. And now I am done with the subject.
 
It may reflect our offseason boredom that this discussion of whether we should play Siena has gone on for 70+ posts over 3 pages. But it's been a fun discussion.
 
It will never happen but I want us to stop playing all these lower league teams. What helps us in our bubble battle a loss against a P4/BE team or beating a MAAC school? It's not SU's job to help fund Gerry's program.

We get nothing out of these games except (as we know all too well recently) embarrassment.
 
It will never happen but I want us to stop playing all these lower league teams. What helps us in our bubble battle a loss against a P4/BE team or beating a MAAC school? It's not SU's job to help fund Gerry's program.

We get nothing out of these games except (as we know all too well recently) embarrassment.
Yeah, we should never schedule lower level teams like the Big 12 does to try and blow them out to help our metrics.
 
The reason you see me responding is quite frankly because you keep responding to posts that I write. The only one that seems to really care about this is you. And for the record, I haven't said we shouldn't do it. Just that it doesn't do anything for us. You keep saying that we would have a little fun with it. Until this thread, I haven't given a second thought to Siena. And now I am done with the subject.
You're right. I do care. Not so much about whether we specifically play Siena but the idea that we should avoid low level teams for fear that losing to them hurts us. I just hate that we entertain the idea of losing to scrubs because we have to have such a specifc strategy to barely be on the right side of the bubble. Good teams don't worry about the bubble. They kill lower level teams that are used as tune ups and fight with other good teams for seeding. Those are the discussions I want to have. Every good team schedules teams that can't help them with getting into the tournament, so schedule a few of Cornell, Colgate, St Bonny, Buffalo, Siena, etc. If we struggle against them, the writing is on the wall.

Let's get good again and stop being the after thought we've been for nearly a decade.
 
It will never happen but I want us to stop playing all these lower league teams. What helps us in our bubble battle a loss against a P4/BE team or beating a MAAC school? It's not SU's job to help fund Gerry's program.

We get nothing out of these games except (as we know all too well recently) embarrassment.
We're not embarrassed because we schedule low level teams. We've been embarrassed because we've sucked. Stop sucking and those games become the dunk contests that we saw in the late '80's.
 
You're right. I do care. Not so much about whether we specifically play Siena but the idea that we should avoid low level teams for fear that losing to them hurts us. I just hate that we entertain the idea of losing to scrubs because we have to have such a specifc strategy to barely be on right side of the bubble. Good teams don't worry about the bubble. They kill lower level teams that are used as tune ups and fight with other good teams for seeding. Those are the discussions I want to have. Every good team schedules teams that can't help them with getting into the tournament, so schedule a few of Cornell, Colgate, St Bonny, Buffalo, Siena, etc. If we struggle against them, the writing is on the wall.

Let's get good again and stop being the after thought we've been for nearly a decade.
The issue this all those games are buy games. I think we should play low and mid majors to try and enhance our metrics as well, but there’s a cost and some schools may have a higher cost for buy games than others. In this era we need to be spending our money elsewhere.
 
Seems like 50 year old dudes is a solid percentage of our fanbase... Fire the buses back up down in Scranton?
Think we need to gain some buzz with the younger fanbase...and that would mean winning seasons and getting into the tourney, so that should be our priority.
 
Think we need to gain some buzz with the younger fanbase...and that would mean winning seasons and getting into the tourney, so that should be our priority.

Totally agree. Was just poking fun at our demographics.
 
The issue this all those games are buy games. I think we should play low and mid majors to try and enhance our metrics as well, but there’s a cost and some schools may have a higher cost for buy games than others. In this era we need to be spending our money elsewhere.
If cost is the issue, I agree, we should spend our money wisely. Until now, that was not what I had seen expressed.
 
Think we need to gain some buzz with the younger fanbase...and that would mean winning seasons and getting into the tourney, so that should be our priority.
We need to do more than just make the tournament. Buzz isn't created by just squeaking in on the right side of the bubble. We need to return to relevancy by getting back into the rankings and staying there. That gets media outlets talking about in season matchups against other good teams and puts us in the discussion for confrence titles and FFs come March.
 
Red’s a coward. Playing Siena would generate eyeballs and buzz in the capital region. It would help Gerry’s program by giving them a marquee game. Have we fallen that much that we are scared of a buy game with little ole Siena? He’s already ditched Colgate and Cornell. Red’s scared to lose these games. Playing Binghamton isn’t going to build our brand. Adopt the Izzo mindset. Any team. Any place. Credit to Gerry for needling Red and the school via the press
What cares about the capital region. The capital region couldn’t care less about CNY.
 
We need to do more than just make the tournament. Buzz isn't created by just squeaking in on the right side of the bubble. We need to return to relevancy by getting back into the rankings and staying there. That gets media outlets talking about in season matchups against other good teams and puts us in the discussion for confrence titles and FFs come March.
agreed on all count. Siena isn’t one of those matchups
 

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