Siena Basketball: GMAC / Blackwell / AO

[Irishsecra1]

I don't recall reading that post.
But I am sure there are some people out there who thinks he is a jerk.
I don't think so and I don't know of anyone else who thinks so.
That being said, As Boeheim said in an earlier interview, everybody isn't going to like you.

 

[rrlbees]

The MAAC is a one bid league, and unless Siena wins the Tourney, it won't be them.

Rank	School	Record	Quad 1	Quad 2	Quad 3	Quad 4
151	Marist	14-7	0-0	0-1	1-4	13-2
176	Siena	16-7	0-1	0-0	1-3	15-3
195	Quinnipiac	14-9	0-2	1-2	3-2	10-3
214	Merrimack	14-9	0-2	0-0	3-7	11-0
223	Iona	14-9	0-1	0-1	3-2	11-5
235	Saint Peter's	11-8	0-2	0-1	2-1	9-4
246	Fairfield	13-10	0-1	0-1	1-3	12-5
286	Sacred Heart	9-14	0-1	0-2	2-4	7-7
302	Mount St. Mary's	9-14	0-2	0-1	0-6	9-5
333	Manhattan	8-15	0-2	0-1	1-5	7-7
345	Canisius	7-16	0-0	0-4	0-5	7-7
348	Niagara	5-17	0-2	0-1	0-4	5-10
355	Rider	2-18	0-4	0-0	0-5	2-9

of course they're a 1 bid league. don't win the tournament you're praying for the nit. these games have been important for positioning in the tournament. first 2 seeds get byes and of course the higher you finish the easier the road (theoretically).

 

[rrlbees]

We just had a board insider (I forgot who) pretty much claim GMac is a jerk and all about Gerry about a week ago. Is this well known?

not my experiences with him. I'd say he's a confident young man.

 

[Irishsecra1]

Oh I 100% agree. I also look at it this way.

Let’s say Gmac finished 2nd in his conference this year and 23 wins. If you just put Autry where Gmac is, same players, Siena, same conference, schedule…same everything. What do you think the results would be?

Honestly I think he finishes towards the bottom of the conference and wins maybe 15 games. Autry coaching wise could barely beat the Sienas last year….we have way more talent than those teams this year and still had a couple close calls. Now imagine giving Autry Siena talent where coaching, X’s and O’s is even more that important. Dude would not win more than 12-15 games a year. I genuinely believe that

I completely agree.
On paper, Red should have been much better than he is.
And as I said earlier, I think he will always be a very good assistant and recruiter.
He just cant run the whole thing and design his own offense and defense.
There is no shame in that, there are a lot of really good assistants out there who also cant do it.

Whatever truly differentiates a good head coach from a good assistant, Red seems to lack that secret ingredient.
Gerry would appear at this time to have it.

 

[Dcuse]

We just had a board insider (I forgot who) pretty much claim GMac is a jerk and all about Gerry about a week ago. Is this well known?

Here we go.

 

[Jake]

We just had a board insider (I forgot who) pretty much claim GMac is a jerk and all about Gerry about a week ago. Is this well known?

I would take that info with a shaker of salt.

 

[Cuse_NYC]

I will preface by saying I didn’t pay close attn to the game until the end. But, contrary to what a poster said about Welsh praising Gerry’s end of game coaching, I thought it was lazy. It was iso ball, the last few possessions for sure. And we know damn well what that looks like. They got lucky that it worked out. That being said, I did see them run a few things earlier.

 

[MikeSU02]

not my experiences with him. I'd say he's a confident young man.

And would be about the 3 millionth college coach to be confident / have an ego a bit.

I have two friends that coached college sports. Love them to death. Great people. They will never be missing confidence and I mean that in the most loving way possible.

You need it.

It's when it becomes toxic is it bad, but otherwise I think a good coach should have it.

 

[007]

I will preface by saying I didn’t pay close attn to the game until the end. But, contrary to what a poster said about Welsh praising Gerry’s end of game coaching, I thought it was lazy. It was iso ball, the last few possessions for sure. And we know damn well what that looks like. They got lucky that it worked out. That being said, I did see them run a few things earlier.

Not to single you out because it's a big club, but the sweeping generalization that "iso ball" is lazy, ineffective, waste of time is... misguided. When it is used to create mismatches, isolate poor defenders, get to the foul line, or to create high efficiency shots for players based on analytics it can be very effective, especially during end of game/end of clock situations. Most good coaches have it in the arsenal.

 

[MikeSU02]

Wrote this in another chat --

Do a national search. If GMac is a candidate and can beat out the other candidates, great.

At least he'll have won it on merit.

In the other thread there is worry about the credibility of the search. if we have to worry about that with this search, we may as well give up basketball.

I would like to think of myself as someone that isn't cynical. I have faith that the school knows just how important this next hire is and it should be an exhaustive search with a fierce competition for getting the right person in.

 

[Cuse_NYC]

Not to single you out because it's a big club, but the sweeping generalization that "iso ball" is lazy, ineffective, waste of time is... misguided. When it is used to create mismatches, isolate poor defenders, get to the foul line, or to create high efficiency shots for players based on analytics it can be very effective, especially during end of game/end of clock situations. Most good coaches have it in the arsenal.

No, I understand and that’s fair to say. But, I saw at least 3 possessions of this in a row at the end. You’d like to see a little something different. It also didn’t appear to be overly orchestrated. As Gerry just seemed to be waving guys away after a bunch of standing around.

 

[Cuse_NYC]

And would be about the 3 millionth college coach to be confident / have an ego a bit.

I have two friends that coached college sports. Love them to death. Great people. They will never be missing confidence and I mean that in the most loving way possible.

You need it.

It's when it becomes toxic is it bad, but otherwise I think a good coach should have it.

Look at Nate Oats. Never misses an opportunity to say what’s on his mind. I think we’d take him in a second.

 

[007]

Wrote this in another chat --

Do a national search. If GMac is a candidate and can beat out the other candidates, great.

At least he'll have won it on merit.

In the other thread there is worry about the credibility of the search. if we have to worry about that with this search, we may as well give up basketball.

I would like to think of myself as someone that isn't cynical. I have faith that the school knows just how important this next hire is and it should be an exhaustive search with a fierce competition for getting the right person in.

We can take it to the bank that the school is acutely aware of how important this hire will be.

 

[Irishsecra1]

I will preface by saying I didn’t pay close attn to the game until the end. But, contrary to what a poster said about Welsh praising Gerry’s end of game coaching, I thought it was lazy. It was iso ball, the last few possessions for sure. And we know damn well what that looks like. They got lucky that it worked out. That being said, I did see them run a few things earlier.

There actually was a great deal of ball movement and sharing for the game.
But in the closing minutes, it became about getting the ball to those who have produced when the going gets tough. I know they prioritized Doty getting the ball, as well as Shoats and Folefac.

I am fine with ISO ball in the closing minutes as long as you have someone who can take control of the game and do a good job.
We literally have no one on our team now who could do that.

Back in the day, that was Gerry, Carmelo, John Wallace, Sherman Douglas, Dion Waiters - the list goes on.
But there is literally no one on our team that I would trust in that situation.
The closest is probably Donnie on this team, which is pretty sad considering.
The last one who I would have trusted in that situation was Buddy Boeheim - which shows how truly long it has been.
Girard couldn't do it when the going got real tough.

 

[Cuse_NYC]

There actually was a great deal of ball movement and sharing for the game.
But in the closing minutes, it became about getting the ball to those who have produced when the going gets tough. I know they prioritized Doty getting the ball, as well as Shoats and Folefac.

I am fine with ISO ball in the closing minutes as long as you have someone who can take control of the game and do a good job.
We literally have no one on our team now who could do that.

Back in the day, that was Gerry, Carmelo, John Wallace, Sherman Douglas, Dion Waiters - the list goes on.
But there is literally no one on our team that I would trust in that situation.
The closest is probably Donnie on this team, which is pretty sad considering.
The last one who I would have trusted in that situation was Buddy Boeheim - which shows how truly long it has been.
Girard couldn't do it when the going got real tough.

You trusted Buddy?

 

[Cheriehoop]

Folefac was more than good enough last night. The other Frosh they have who hit some 3s is also good

Folefac is a very good player and only a freshman.

 

[Cheriehoop]

You trusted Buddy?

According to AI:
Key crunch-time moments for Buddy Boeheim:

• Indiana (Nov 2021): Combined with brother Jimmy to lead Syracuse in a 2OT win.
• Georgia Tech (Feb 2022): Hit a clutch 3-pointer with 1:30 left in overtime to give Syracuse a 72-69 lead.
• NC State (Feb 2022): Secured a late 3-pointer to hold off a comeback attempt, reported by Syracuse.com.
• San Diego State (2021 NCAA Tournament): Scored 30 points, including several baskets in the final minutes to seal the win, according to YouTube.
• Virginia Tech (2021): Recorded a four-point play and scored the final 11 points for Syracuse to secure a victory, according to YouTube.
  

 

[Irishsecra1]

You trusted Buddy?

Compared to everyone else on that team - and in subsequent teams - I did.

I think a review of how he actually did in clutch moments will show my faith wasn't exactly misplaced.

 

[Dcuse]

I will preface by saying I didn’t pay close attn to the game until the end. But, contrary to what a poster said about Welsh praising Gerry’s end of game coaching, I thought it was lazy. It was iso ball, the last few possessions for sure. And we know damn well what that looks like. They got lucky that it worked out. That being said, I did see them run a few things earlier.

You run what works. If you have a clear matchup advantage, you damn well better try to isolate it. What were you looking for? Pete Carril ball for 40 minutes?

 

[Cuse_NYC]

You run what works. If you have a clear matchup advantage, you damn well better try to isolate it. What were you looking for? Pete Carril ball for 40 minutes?

Didn’t appear organized

 

[Bayside44]

Didn’t appear organized

They outscored Iona 14-5 in the final 5 and half minutes.

 

[Orangezoo]

I would take that info with a shaker of salt.

It’s BS. Gerry is a confident dude and a relentlessly hard worker and has an intensity about him. He and his family are great people and self absorbed is the last thing I’d ever paint them as.

 

[Orangezoo]

Folefac is a very good player and only a freshman.

He and Doty have P4 potential. To what extent it’s hard to say but absolutely would be assets in a come with their coach deal. Not sure anyone else on that roster would be.

 

[richmondcuse03]

It’s BS. Gerry is a confident dude and a relentlessly hard worker and has an intensity about him. He and his family are great people and self absorbed is the last thing I’d ever paint them as.

I'd be more concerned if he can do the money/fundraising aspect of the job. Red has been awful at that so the bar is low. But I think the next hire has to be able to generate excitement and get folks to open up their wallets. Would Gerry do that over someone else? Guess it depends who the someone else is...

 

[Newhouser]

Didn’t appear organized

I'm not sure that's fair - the ran everything thru Doty the last few minutes and set the Frosh up on the post a few other times. Doesn't have to be Trevor Cooney cuts to be organized.