Since we won our only title

[SBU72]

pretty amazing the last 11 years have had more programs win titles in basketball than football. 6 programs in basketball, 7 in football

basketball
UConn
NC
Florida
Duke
Kentucky
Louisville

football
USC
Texas
Florida
LSU
Bama
Auburn
FSU

Huh? 6>7? I guess I don't understand.

 

[OttoMets]

2010 was the one that I can't rest easy with.

Not only was that team a fantastic "team", but the path to the title game was great. After Butler it was KState coming off a 2OT game, then MSU without their starting PG and then a Duke team that was one of the worst title teams in recent history.

Agree. We should have won without Onuaku. Wide open path for a team that'd just crushed Gonzaga and could do no wrong on offense. That one kills me.

And let's not sleep on 2011. We had as good a chance as anyone if we'd gotten to Newark; Kentucky wasn't better than we were and they upset Carolina.

 

[Jeremy L.]

Nothing is guaranteed but 2010 was probably the best all around team I've ever seen at Syracuse. That team had absolutely every facet of the game covered. Well, aside from adequate depth, apparently. Arinze's injury continues to haunt me. That was the championship that got away.

Agreed. I always watch this replay of the first round game against Vermont and they just had EVERYTHING clicking. They had so many pieces on that team. Sad that one major injury essentially cost us a title.

 

[jordoo]

Agreed. I always watch this replay of the first round game against Vermont and they just had EVERYTHING clicking. They had so many pieces on that team. Sad that one major injury essentially cost us a title.

Wow we could have used us some Scoop Jardine last season.

 

[Millhouse]

worst part of this is that without Arinze, they could still slide jackson back to the 5 and bring Joesph off the bench with Johnson as his battery mate. They were still much Better than friggin Butler without AO. Definately a lost opportunity - the only thing that softened the blow for me was that my first child was born the same day just before the game started. I watched the game with my little boy in my arms.

my first kid was 4 days old for the marquette game in 2011 and i was pissed. maybe the novelty wore off in 4 days

in high school, got home from my grandma's wake and watched the awful richmond game and i was really pissed

circle of life, always pissed

 

[Millhouse]

Huh? 6>7? I guess I don't understand.

bad typo - sorry, switched the words around

i am surprised that more football programs have won titles since 03 than on the basketball side. you'd expect more parity in basketball where fewer players make a difference

when i make a typo, i make it count

 

[OttoMets]

Agreed. I always watch this replay of the first round game against Vermont and they just had EVERYTHING clicking. They had so many pieces on that team. Sad that one major injury essentially cost us a title.

That fast break at 1:42 makes me smile. We truly haven't seen that in three seasons. And Mookie Jones was prominently involved. We have lost a ton of talent.

Also, it's shocking to see Pudgy Rick Jackson.

 

[CorduroyG]

Wow we could have used us some Scoop Jardine last season.

scoop was so good in 2010. he was never that good his last 2 years even though he had a much more prominent role. that was probably the problem, he tried to do too much in 2011 and 2012. he looked so much quicker in 2010 too.

 

[KCJax03]

my first kid was 4 days old for the marquette game in 2011 and i was pissed. maybe the novelty wore off in 4 days

in high school, got home from my grandma's wake and watched the awful richmond game and i was really pissed

circle of life, always pissed

Yeah 4 days would be a different deal. Especially since neither of us slept for days after bringing home a newborn. By the time we fed the kid, changed his diaper and placed him back in his bassonet, he was hungry again. My wife was breast feeding only but we got to a point where we began giving the kid formula at night, it was the only way to keep his belly full enough to sleep more then 25 minutes between feedings. After 4 days I was a tired, angry bear with little tolerance for frustration.

 

[jordoo]

scoop was so good in 2010. he was never that good his last 2 years even though he had a much more prominent role. that was probably the problem, he tried to do too much in 2011 and 2012. he looked so much quicker in 2010 too.

He carried us for a portion of his senior year late in the BE schedule. I'd say he had a 6 game run of excellence and had a very good over all senior season other than a drop off in FT shooting. Yes as a junior he struggled a bit more because that team was challenged offensively and as you described he needed to do too much.

 

[RF2044]

scoop was so good in 2010. he was never that good his last 2 years even though he had a much more prominent role. that was probably the problem, he tried to do too much in 2011 and 2012. he looked so much quicker in 2010 too.

Completely off-base about Scoop in 2012. He tried to do LESS because the team was better. He sublimated [to his credit], which was the best thing for the team. We were fantastic that year in no small part due to his senior leadership at lead guard, amongst many other factors.

No different than Jason Hart in 2000. Numbers went down, but team was better. Scoop had a great year in 2012.

 

[CorduroyG]

He carried us for a portion of his senior year late in the BE schedule. I'd say he had a 6 game run of excellence and had a very good over all senior season other than a drop off in FT shooting. Yes as a junior he struggled a bit more because that team was challenged offensively and as you described he needed to do too much.

yea he was definitely better in 2012 than 2011. but he was never as good as he was as a soph in 2010

 

[SWC75]

1987 was our first national championship team but we gave it away by missing free throws at the end- and Indiana made some great plays to win it.

1996 we were not as good as Kentucky but still in when J-Dub fouled out with 1:05 left after aobut the only bad pass Z Sims had made all year.

2003: We won it.

2010: With Arinze we have two options inside, not one and they don't get all those turnovers we gave them by trying to force the ball to Rick. They make it to the finals and almost win it on a half court shot. We wouldn't have needed the half court shot if we were full strength.

2012: I think Kentucky was better but we would have given them a game with Fab. The thing is, we now know he probably shouldn't have bene on the team to begin with.

I think we're a thee NC program with one NC. And that doesn't count the year when the actual national champions wasn't any better than we were, such as the last two UCONN titles, Nova '85, etc. etc.

 

[Brian Orange]

The Uconn ones are absolute killers. The NYC crew and I used to rank all the programs, Duke, Kentucky, UCLA, etc, after watching SU games at the bar. We had 1, they had 2, the programs were similar. Really tough now with 4 against 1.

 

[Trueblue25]

Agreed. I always watch this replay of the first round game against Vermont and they just had EVERYTHING clicking. They had so many pieces on that team. Sad that one major injury essentially cost us a title.

omg we were gucci

 

[KCJax03]

The Uconn ones are absolute killers. The NYC crew and I used to rank all the programs, Duke, Kentucky, UCLA, etc, after watching SU games at the bar. We had 1, they had 2, the programs were similar. Really tough now with 4 against 1.

UConn seems to be the anti-syracuse, they have won two NCAA championships with the most pedestrian teams I have ever witnessed. Win a title when your the 9th best team in your conference - check. Win a title with a team playing out of the AAC who lost to SMU, twice - check.
Meanwhile Syracuse has managed not to win titles with multiple elite teams, including 2010 and 2012 when they went a combined 64-8.
Doesn't seem fair. Two, three weeks ago I was certain McCollough was staying and 'Cuse had a great shot at Bryant, I was so hoping for Syracuse to win the NCAA title so we could all thumb are noses at all those haters who piled on during this whole NCAA debacle.

 

[Eric15]

Agreed. I always watch this replay of the first round game against Vermont and they just had EVERYTHING clicking. They had so many pieces on that team. Sad that one major injury essentially cost us a title.

Oh my goodness that crossover by Scoop at the 0:35 mark is just filthy. I remember shrieking at the top of my lungs watching that live.

 

[NineOneSeven]

UConn seems to be the anti-syracuse, they have won two NCAA championships with the most pedestrian teams I have ever witnessed. Win a title when your the 9th best team in your conference - check. Win a title with a team playing out of the AAC who lost to SMU, twice - check.
Meanwhile Syracuse has managed not to win titles with multiple elite teams, including 2010 and 2012 when they went a combined 64-8.
Doesn't seem fair. Two, three weeks ago I was certain McCollough was staying and 'Cuse had a great shot at Bryant, I was so hoping for Syracuse to win the NCAA title so we could all thumb are noses at all those haters who piled on during this whole NCAA debacle.

Welcome to single elimination tournaments.

 

[NineOneSeven]

What's remarkable is the names on that list. Including us in '03, those are stud programs. Say what you want about fluke national champions (looking at you, Uconn), the entire list is filled with prominent basketball programs.

 

[jordoo]

What's remarkable is the names on that list. Including us in '03, those are stud programs. Say what you want about fluke national champions (looking at you, Uconn), the entire list is filled with prominent basketball programs.

I begin to think no one outside the P5 will win the whole thing again. As much parity as there is the cream of the crop players are going to a pretty small select group of teams most times they just don't stay long enough to really develop making it look like extreme parity even though talent wise its not even close.

 

[NKR1978]

If not for 03, I'd have been suicidal after the events of 10 and 12.

 

[tommyharn]

Those 2 North Carolina National Championships for the moment stand.

Whatever. Regardless of what happens, nobody is taking away any championships. Even if they do, I still watched the games and saw them win them. I even caught a couple of them on your home court.

Syracuse fans are the only ones who think of SU as that one team that could have won the 2012 title had they not lost a key player. Carolina losing Kendall Marshall was a huge blow to a team that was a bonafide contender and had hung with Kentucky until the closing seconds when they played in Lexington. Having already lost their backup point guard earlier in the season made it even worse. Anyway, Marshall not only was the Cousy award winning floor general, but he was hitting outside shots at a regular clip before he went down. That UNC squad is still universally known as the team that potentially could have taken out UK, not Syracuse. 2010 is an entirely different matter. That Syracuse team was built to win title, and the field was there for the taking. It was a shame when Arinze went down.

 

[Jeremy L.]

Oh my goodness that crossover by Scoop at the 0:35 mark is just filthy. I remember shrieking at the top of my lungs watching that live.

The skill on offensive from every player on that team was amazing. From AO being pretty much automatic within 5 feet of the basket, to Wes' athleticism, to Scoop's ball handling, to the shooting of Rautins. I could keep going...

 

[Eric15]

The skill on offensive from every player on that team was amazing. From AO being pretty much automatic within 5 feet of the basket, to Wes' athleticism, to Scoop's ball handling, to the shooting of Rautins. I could keep going...

We only went 7 deep, so you can't go all that much further...

 

[CorduroyG]

UConn seems to be the anti-syracuse, they have won two NCAA championships with the most pedestrian teams I have ever witnessed. Win a title when your the 9th best team in your conference - check. Win a title with a team playing out of the AAC who lost to SMU, twice - check.
Meanwhile Syracuse has managed not to win titles with multiple elite teams, including 2010 and 2012 when they went a combined 64-8.
Doesn't seem fair. Two, three weeks ago I was certain McCollough was staying and 'Cuse had a great shot at Bryant, I was so hoping for Syracuse to win the NCAA title so we could all thumb are noses at all those haters who piled on during this whole NCAA debacle.

not only were their 2011 and 2014 championship teams nothing special, they didnt have to beat any great teams in the championship game. no way last year's uconn team beats this year's wisconsin duke or kentucky teams. 2011 uconn beat a freakin 8 seed to win it.