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So what's the deal with the flagrant foul

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So what's the deal with the flagrant foul signal from fans that Ive seen on highlights or the web or maybe random spots in games that I dont recall any sort of flagrant foul occurring? Are fans trying to encourage teams to do it more often or just telling the camera their Christmas wish for more action of some sort? Today I saw in on the the Twitter summary in my email(I signed up a couple of years ago for reasons I'd rather not say, but dont judge me, I've never made a tweet and sometimes find some interesting stuff in my "network", even if I don't know how it got there).

Anyhow today I seen a short video of some fan doing it with a ****-eating grin on his face(if I recall correctly), and wondered what the bleep was going on in his head. Can someone please tell me?
 
Ok, since none of you seem willing to help me, I've had to do research. One of the better theories I came across was that they were using shorthand to symbolize བར་དོ་ཐོས་གྲོལ. In sports fan language that's the Tibetan Book of the Dead, as annotated by one Richard Gere(sans gerbil).

Interestingly enough, this relates directly to what SU fans are experiencing now. Instead of one death, these folks embrace multiple bardos. It's somewhat akin to the cultural insight Adam Sandler shared with, "Instead of one day of presents, we have eight crazy nights". The Tibetan text describes, and is intended to guide one through, the experiences that the consciousness has after death, in the bardo, the interval between death and the next rebirth. Without these instructions, it can be a wild and very confusing journey, and it can be easy to get lost and not know where you are or what to do. The way I see it, that is where Syracuse fans are right now...kind of in some in between state not knowing if we are alive or dead.

Some of us are like the fellow in the movie Johnny Got His Gun (www.imdb.com/title/tt0067277/), which was later immortalized for another generation by the Metallica song "One", and given to yet more generations by me, here. Now this fellow had circumstances worse than our own, and similarly wanted to check out early like the guy who inspired the Van Halen song, "Jump", and like folks who already want to be certain the team is dead. Earlier, a thread had asked something along the lines of "what could be worse?". Rather than bore or gross people out with my own experiences, I figured the answer could be imagining these lyrics as literal, instead of as a metaphor to our current experience:

I can't remember anything
Can't tell if this is true or dream
Deep down inside I feel to scream
This terrible silence stops me

Now that the war is through with me
I'm waking up, I can now see
That there is not much left of me
Nothing is real but pain now

Hold my breath as I wish for death
Oh please, God, wake me

Back to the womb that's much too real
In pumps life that I must feel
But can't look forward to reveal
Look to the time when I'll live

Fed through the tube that sticks in me
Just like a wartime novelty
Tied to machines that make me be
Cut this life off from me

Hold my breath as I wish for death
Oh please, God, wake me

Now the world is gone, I'm just one
Oh God, help me
Hold my breath as I wish for death
Oh please, God, help me

Darkness imprisoning me
All that I see
Absolute horror
I cannot live
I cannot die
Trapped in myself
Body my holding cell

Landmine has taken my sight
Taken my speech
Taken my hearing
Taken my arms
Taken my legs
Taken my soul
Left me with life in hell

(Mind you, the video has spoken lines from the movie clips that are important to the song, and maybe even one's consideration of existence itself, that are not printed above)


So folks, I still am not sure about this intentional foul signal from fans when there is no such action in the games. It could be that the fans are choosing the symbol closest to death in hoops, a violent foul? Maybe it is their way of saying they wish to be put out of their own misery and move on? It's becoming more difficult for me to get inside the heads of some courtside fans these days.

Certainly we have seen people in their own ways longing for this quickened death. If nothing else, this can serve as a reminder that death may not be quite as cut and dried as we have been taught it is. I think our current experience in this paralyzed state of limbo as fans can help us appreciate this, and maybe be the best preparation to help the Westernized heathen to understand what lies beyond. Or maybe the fans are speaking in code to aliens in some sort of sign language I dont understand. This is the best I could come up with so far. Maybe I could sue Twitter for the emotional distress the fan's antics have caused me? Maybe I'd lose because I'm not dancing around naked in a Red Roof Inn, and am not famous? Or maybe the silly acting fan was trying to help us all keep things on context? Either way, I'm going to rock out to "One" and contemplate it a bit further as I await selection Sunday, which in more Western terms could be thought of as the final judgement. Will we get a truck stop instead of St Peter's?

Yes Otto, the mantle indeed is heavy, but you reminded me to keep it in context and to do what we can. I will endeavor to solve the mystery at some point. Your encouragement helped me during a troubling time and still motivates me. But darn you twitter, this week was hard enough without you putting more on my plate!
 
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2 things.

The guy in the right looks like a giant condom wrapped penis.

Far too much effort over a team that doesn't desrve post season play.
 
So what's the deal with the flagrant foul signal from fans that Ive seen on highlights or the web or maybe random spots in games that I dont recall any sort of flagrant foul occurring? Are fans trying to encourage teams to do it more often or just telling the camera their Christmas wish for more action of some sort? Today I saw in on the the Twitter summary in my email(I signed up a couple of years ago for reasons I'd rather not say, but dont judge me, I've never made a tweet and sometimes find some interesting stuff in my "network", even if I don't know how it got there).

Anyhow today I seen a short video of some fan doing it with a ****-eating grin on his face(if I recall correctly), and wondered what the bleep was going on in his head. Can someone please tell me?


dont forget about our old music video thread...including this great one...

 
dont forget about our old music video thread...including this great one...


Ha, I remember that! When folks were talking about the LeVert dude on Michigan before the final 4 match up, I remembered him being in the lyrics to that song. ;) Yeah, I do make some strange associations and try to help bring more madness in March. I'm surprised you remembered that video!
 
Ha, I remember that! When folks were talking about the LeVert dude on Michigan before the final 4 match up, I remembered him being in the lyrics to that song. ;) Yeah, I do make some strange associations.

i recall the question at hand was in the video...hammer says "Guy, Levert, my hommie, rob base.

and we were trying to figure out if rob base was his hommie or was his hommie in additional to rob base.

also, sort of funny how it says "good quality" as to the description of the physical quality of the video...while we know the video is anything but good quality.
 
i recall the question at hand was in the video...hammer says "Guy, Levert, my hommie, rob base.

and we were trying to figure out if rob base was his hommie or was his hommie in additional to rob base.

also, sort of funny how it says "good quality" as to the description of the physical quality of the video...while we know the video is anything but good quality.

lol! I always assumed they were one and the same and not 2 separate people on the list. Is that the answer that was agreed upon? (If I made a parody of the song, I'd replace Rob Base with Josh Pace)
 
90/10 it was one and the same person. There is that 10 percent chance though that his hommie went unnamed and was asked if he'd seen "her' in addition to Guy (which was actually a group of dudes) , levert (another group of dudes) and Rob Base (one guy, but who claims it takes two) .
 
Ok, since none of you seem willing to help me, I've had to do research. One of the better theories I came across was that they were using shorthand to symbolize བར་དོ་ཐོས་གྲོལ. In sports fan language that's the Tibetan Book of the Dead, as annotated by one Richard Gere(sans gerbil).

Interestingly enough, this relates directly to what SU fans are experiencing now. Instead of one death, these folks embrace multiple bardos. It's somewhat akin to the cultural insight Adam Sandler shared with, "Instead of one day of presents, we have eight crazy nights". The Tibetan text describes, and is intended to guide one through, the experiences that the consciousness has after death, in the bardo, the interval between death and the next rebirth. Without these instructions, it can be a wild and very confusing journey, and it can be easy to get lost and not know where you are or what to do. The way I see it, that is where Syracuse fans are right now...kind of in some in between state not knowing if we are alive or dead.

Some of us are like the fellow in the movie Johnny Got His Gun (www.imdb.com/title/tt0067277/), which was later immortalized for another generation by the Metallica song "One", and given to yet more generations by me, here. Now this fellow had circumstances worse than our own, and similarly wanted to check out early like the guy who inspired the Van Halen song, "Jump", and like folks who already want to be certain the team is dead. Earlier, a thread had asked something along the lines of "what could be worse?". Rather than bore or gross people out with my own experiences, I figured the answer could be imagining these lyrics as literal, instead of as a metaphor to our current experience:

I can't remember anything
Can't tell if this is true or dream
Deep down inside I feel to scream
This terrible silence stops me

Now that the war is through with me
I'm waking up, I can now see
That there is not much left of me
Nothing is real but pain now

Hold my breath as I wish for death
Oh please, God, wake me

Back to the womb that's much too real
In pumps life that I must feel
But can't look forward to reveal
Look to the time when I'll live

Fed through the tube that sticks in me
Just like a wartime novelty
Tied to machines that make me be
Cut this life off from me

Hold my breath as I wish for death
Oh please, God, wake me

Now the world is gone, I'm just one
Oh God, help me
Hold my breath as I wish for death
Oh please, God, help me

Darkness imprisoning me
All that I see
Absolute horror
I cannot live
I cannot die
Trapped in myself
Body my holding cell

Landmine has taken my sight
Taken my speech
Taken my hearing
Taken my arms
Taken my legs
Taken my soul
Left me with life in hell

(Mind you, the video has spoken lines from the movie clips that are important to the song, and maybe even one's consideration of existence itself, that are not printed above)


So folks, I still am not sure about this intentional foul signal from fans when there is no such action in the games. It could be that the fans are choosing the symbol closest to death in hoops, a violent foul? Maybe it is their way of saying they wish to be put out of their own misery and move on? It's becoming more difficult for me to get inside the heads of some courtside fans these days.

Certainly we have seen people in their own ways longing for this quickened death. If nothing else, this can serve as a reminder that death may not be quite as cut and dried as we have been taught it is. I think our current experience in this paralyzed state of limbo as fans can help us appreciate this, and maybe be the best preparation to help the Westernized heathen to understand what lies beyond. Or maybe the fans are speaking in code to aliens in some sort of sign language I dont understand. This is the best I could come up with so far. Maybe I could sue Twitter for the emotional distress the fan's antics have caused me? Maybe I'd lose because I'm not dancing around naked in a Red Roof Inn, and am not famous? Or maybe the silly acting fan was trying to help us all keep things on context? Either way, I'm going to rock out to "One" and contemplate it a bit further as I await selection Sunday, which in more Western terms could be thought of as the final judgement. Will we get a truck stop instead of St Peter's?

Yes Otto, the mantle indeed is heavy, but you reminded me to keep it in context and to do what we can. I will endeavor to solve the mystery at some point. Your encouragement helped me during a troubling time and still motivates me. But darn you twitter, this week was hard enough without you putting more on my plate!

This post is a perfect example of why I read this board. You never know what sort of stuff people will post.

Keep them coming!
 
It's beautiful.

Well done, CaptainJ

Thanks, my friend. I post this next song in tribute to you...and the fellas singing it actually fit well into this thread. It was unplanned, I didn't even know they sang a version of this song(Bette Midler was what I was going for), but there have been multiple occasions which make it sincere. I love when I can express myself on occasion, and am grateful for it. I always wished to be able to make art on the court, but the limitations there were harder to overcome, despite the many hours of weekly and daily work. I imagine others here can relate to that as well. The truly transcendent players make a physical activity into an art(although a year or so ago a friend of mine introduced me to the debate over the definition "arts vs crafts", which in my younger days I would have used a 3 letter word to describe, until I saw that commercial where Wanda Sykes scolds the high school boys for using that word to describe a small piece of art in a pizza parlor...which I heard over and over this season while in ESPN3 commercial breaks).

 

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