So Who Is The First Portaler?

[Red2003]

Yup. Taylor is totally broken.

Steve Sax & Chuck Knoblauch nod their heads knowingly.

JT needs a change of scenery like nobody’s business.

He had a season to forget that’s for sure. Scapegoated hard by the students. Hated on social media. I don’t think I can remember this level of abuse towards a starter on a 20 win Cuse team. Sure there’s been some guys that had a rough go on the hill and pockets of abuse from fans over the years but when I heard he got boo’ed at the dome I was like damn.

With Taylor it just seemed to be universal dislike outside of the coaching staff. I give props to him for sucking it up tho and getting through the season. Also I had a good laugh when I heard he was liking all the crappy comments he got on social media from haters.

My hot take is that he’s a Hokie on his way down to Blacksburg in a few weeks.

 

[NineOneSeven]

Lmao redshirting a guy that will be a JR and started every game this year? I've seen it all.

 

[orangenauburn]

He had a season to forget that’s for sure. Scapegoated hard by the students. Hated on social media. I don’t think I can remember this level of abuse towards a starter on a 20 win Cuse team. Sure there’s been some guys that had a rough go on the hill and pockets of abuse from fans over the years but when I heard he got boo’ed at the dome I was like damn.

With Taylor it just seemed to be universal dislike outside of the coaching staff. I give props to him for sucking it up tho and getting through the season. Also I had a good laugh when I heard he was liking all the crappy comments he got on social media from haters.

My hot take is that he’s a Hokie on his way down to Blacksburg in a few weeks.

Someone mentioned JMU and that seems like a logical spot

Maybe even Coastal Carolina

 

[Dmcnabbrules]

Is he related to George or Christopher?

Chris son

 

[IthacaMatt]

Yeah it kinda depends on what injury you’re talking about too/context matters. cuffe was obviously going to be back it was what a broken wrist or hand or something?

My original point was that if a guy misses 2 seasons, you don't know what you're going to get, how durable they might be, how much rust they might have when they come back. It's hard to bet on a guy who missed 2 seasons.

 

[Millhouse]

He shot 39% from 3 last season, if he did that this season and didn't have to play PF; I think most would be happy to have him in the rotation next season.

I don't like his shot but it's a bad shot in a way that isn't hopelessly doomed like Williams and mintz

 

[OrlandoCuse]

He had a season to forget that’s for sure. Scapegoated hard by the students. Hated on social media. I don’t think I can remember this level of abuse towards a starter on a 20 win Cuse team. Sure there’s been some guys that had a rough go on the hill and pockets of abuse from fans over the years but when I heard he got boo’ed at the dome I was like damn.

With Taylor it just seemed to be universal dislike outside of the coaching staff. I give props to him for sucking it up tho and getting through the season. Also I had a good laugh when I heard he was liking all the crappy comments he got on social media from haters.

My hot take is that he’s a Hokie on his way down to Blacksburg in a few weeks.

While I do feel bad for JT because of the way he was treated, reality is he really never should have been put in that position. On vast majority of past SU teams he’s probably a sparingly used player. JB really did a number on our roster in his last few years. Gross mismanagement.

 

[50YRsofCuse]

pretty sure its exactly the opposite of what you surmise

starling and westry only came back into the picture because JB was gone...recruits stopped wanting to play for him.

all 4 portal players were 100% red's decisions...and furthrmore, keeping the exisiting players were also reds decisions

Perhaps, I’m wrong but I did read a statement from Boeheim before he stepped down that a number of players contacted Syracuse last year inquiring about Transferring in. I made a leap of faith that one of them was Starling who announced his transfer to Syracuse on the first day of the portal. Surely this was not done with no pre thought or conversation especially since Brey announced early on he was not returning to coach ND.

.Second, Westry had plenty of time being during the season while he was injured where he may have inquire/talk/reach out to McNamara his Syracuse recruiter about the possibility of coming to Syracuse.

sure, Red once he became the head coach had the final say but these transfers had previous discussions/inquiries to see if they could transfer To Syracuse.

 

[richard levy]

Copeland stopped going to class

 

[littlereg]

My original point was that if a guy misses 2 seasons, you don't know what you're going to get, how durable they might be, how much rust they might have when they come back. It's hard to bet on a guy who missed 2 seasons.

Oh yeah I was just kinda expanding on the point my fault.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Biblically, Adam and Eve were the first portalers, after they were dismissed from the University of Eden.

Eve took impermissible benefits from a fruit company.

 

[23Zone]

The portal season that opens Monday would be far more exciting for us fans than to watch a miserable cuse team plod through a NIT first round loss. Here's hoping to no invite.

 

[jordoo]

Biblically, Adam and Eve were the first portalers, after they were dismissed from the University of Eden.

Eve took impermissible benefits from a fruit company.

“Next you will want to eat from the tree of life and become like us” there is some very telling stuff even in translated, edited (for those they wish to control) version of the Bible we see today.

 

[Wrinkle]

Why TF would copeland not be starting PG next year? Baffled

 

[richmondcuse03]

Perhaps, I’m wrong but I did read a statement from Boeheim before he stepped down that a number of players contacted Syracuse last year inquiring about Transferring in. I made a leap of faith that one of them was Starling who announced his transfer to Syracuse on the first day of the portal. Surely this was not done with no pre thought or conversation especially since Brey announced early on he was not returning to coach ND.

.Second, Westry had plenty of time being during the season while he was injured where he may have inquire/talk/reach out to McNamara his Syracuse recruiter about the possibility of coming to Syracuse.

sure, Red once he became the head coach had the final say but these transfers had previous discussions/inquiries to see if they could transfer To Syracuse.

Westry wanted to come to Syr out of HS. His agent/handlers pushed him elsewhere. He regretted it entire time. He would have come if JB was here.

 

[Red2003]

Someone mentioned JMU and that seems like a logical spot

Maybe even Coastal Carolina

Suppose if he wants starting mins or bench minutes

 

[Red2003]

The portal season that opens Monday would be far more exciting for us fans than to watch a miserable cuse team plod through a NIT first round loss. Here's hoping to no invite.

I agree. I'm going to lose it watching Brown have to go 5 on1 on defense. The one guy that needs the least work on defense is going to take all the abuse while our other 5 guys do a shoot around and play garbage defese,

 

[FrancoPizza]

Biblically, Adam and Eve were the first portalers, after they were dismissed from the University of Eden.

Eve took impermissible benefits from a fruit company.

Running around naked may have been an issue too. Although if she was hot I’d let it slide.

 

[FrancoPizza]

Why TF would copeland not be starting PG next year? Baffled

Because he’s not good enough, not consistent enough, not smart enough. And it’s not even close.

 

[Marsh01]

Why TF would copeland not be starting PG next year? Baffled

For who?

 

[Wrinkle]

Because he’s not good enough, not consistent enough, not smart enough. And it’s not even close.

That's just an L take brother

 

[Cuse181]

Your response was irrelevant, because it had nothing to do with mine.

I was disagreeing with the notion that Taylor might consider redshirting a year after being a starter, when it's largely known that he's portalling out.

Work on your reading comprehension.

Calm down there bud, don’t take it so personally.

 

[DoctorBombay]

Because he’s not good enough, not consistent enough, not smart enough. And it’s not even close.

Soooo...he's Stuart Smalley?

 

[shu 49]

Copeland stopped going to class

Then i would not allow him to play. Period. U cant do simple things like finish and goto classes then he should be off team too. Immediatly and if Red lets him play in NIT, i will know he doesnt have the coaching toughness we need.

 

[jsshap]

I know Westry is talented. I've never bashed the kid. I just think it's not wise to project his impact when he has been injured for so long.

The videos I've seen of Westry mostly goes back to HS / AAU ball. He looks like a more muscular, more physical version of Copeland, but maybe not quite such a fancy passer. But a big strong guard / forward type, but not a SF because he doesn't really have a 3 point shot.

He might turn into a very good player for us. I hope he does. But if I'm planning next year's roster, just look at Cuffe. He was a really explosive player, can make a 3 and get to the rim, if you look at his historical footage. Similarly to Westry, a very talented (but different) player.

Cuffe wins the 3 point contest at both our pre-season kickoff events. Looks like he might be getting back, but he was kind of rusty all season, at least offensively. I saw effort from him on defense, but also saw him sometimes lose shooters, particularly from the wing-to-corner area, maybe not tracking all the way down low to cover a guard who might be a shooter.

Overall, I think you would probably agree that Cuffe shows flashes of talent, but was rusty this year, and didn't really break into the rotation. But he might be very good next year as a third or fourth guard in our rotation.

And with respect to Copeland - if Copeland leaves, some people have Westry simply plugging in for his role in the rotation. And maybe that will happen. But it's a risk. Copeland has played at Syracuse for 2 years now. If he can just keep self-control and show a little better judgment, he could be an incredible player for us.

If all 3 of those guys are competing for time at guard next year, I would put Copeland ahead of the other two guys. I didn't ever say Westry wasn't worth a gamble. But Red maybe too many gambles on guys coming off injuries, and too many of those gambles didn't work out.

I think all of this fair. I took your comment to suggest that red made a mistake in taking westry