So Who Is The First Portaler?

[Nicknack]

I wasn't on the game thread the other night, so not sure if this was discussed. In the first half, Q gets an outlet pass and he's all alone, decides to drive against three NC State players and naturally gets stuffed. Can't believe what I'm watching. It's the most obvious play, just pull up, wait for your teammates and set up the offense. Second half rolls around and he does the exact same thing. If basics like this are so difficult for him, I don't see how he's the starting pg next year.

Yeah, I talked about that very play in another thread. It was actually four nc state defenders. Maybe watching Mintz drive into crowed defenses looking for fouls rubbed off on him last game. It was frustrating to watch, for sure.

For me, the last game caused me to cool off on Q. I've been a really big fan this year and he was progressing pretty well over the course of the season. The last game it was really disappointing to see him regress by making poor decisions, being mouthy, and not making the smart basketball play.

 

[longtimefan]

Joe actually avg'd more FGs a game than Judah last year.

Buddy avg'd 5 more FGs a game than anyone else on the team for 2 years in a row.

Not saying I disagree with your take. Certainly this year it played this way.

Interesting how one player Buddy Backdown'ed his way to a 16-17 record yet it was never suggested that he was more interested in personal points than wins.

Just sayin'

That team lost due to defense, not offense. Losing Edwards for the last 10 games was a killer. And not having Torrance to help relieve pressure might have cost a couple of games, too.

 

[Giants1973]

Monday the Transfer portal opens. Let the Fun begin!!!!

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

Yeah, I talked about that very play in another thread. It was actually four nc state defenders. Maybe watching Mintz drive into crowed defenses looking for fouls rubbed off on him last game. It was frustrating to watch, for sure.

For me, the last game caused me to cool off on Q. I've been a really big fan this year and he was progressing pretty well over the course of the season. The last game it was really disappointing to see him regress by making poor decisions, being mouthy, and not making the smart basketball play.

Even before seeing all of the comments here about Q, my impression from the NCSU game was that he was making his last stand in an orange uni. Will be interesting to see if everyone is available for the NIT game(s).

 

[Nicknack]

Even before seeing all of the comments here about Q, my impression from the NCSU game was that he was making his last stand in an orange uni. Will be interesting to see if everyone is available for the NIT game(s).

Yeah, that game was strange. He seemed more brazen and reckless. That's probably why I came away very disappointed with him. Usually I don't react as much after just one game.

 

[SpringsCuse]

Not saying Symir is good but he’s 4th in the nation in assists per game. It just shows that borderline HM guys can put up numbers on mid majors.

In the year Symir played the most at Syracuse (2021-22), his assist rate was 9.0/40 min. He played 13.1 min/game and he had 2.9 A/game. At Binghamton his assist rate is 8.9/40 min. He played 32.3 min/game and he had 7.2 A/game. So his assist rate at Binghamton was the same as his best year at Syracuse -- he just played more.

 

[emjkay]

Taylor . And very soon. But he won't be the last. We have to clean up the culture on this team. Not that Taylor is a culture problem. He isn't. Others are. And the talent.

I'm in favor of Justin Taylor staying. All accounts even to the detriment of team his work ethic and attitude got him playing time. This summer he takes that work ethic and does the things he needs to improve. Remember Lazarus Sims and Howard Triche? They both had disastrous first two seasons. Then both turned it around,became valuable starters and played in championship games.

 

[Nicknack]

I'm in favor of Justin Taylor staying. All accounts even to the detriment of team his work ethic and attitude got him playing time. This summer he takes that work ethic and does the things he needs to improve. Remember Lazarus Sims and Howard Triche? They both had disastrous first two seasons. Then both turned it around,became valuable starters and played in championship games.

I'm good either way. I would love to see JT turn it around and to do it while wearing orange. However, his issue isn't like Sims and Triche though. He showed last year he had a game that most all of us expected only to flourish. Something broke for him this year. He went Ben Simmons, afraid to shoot. I would love to know how he looks in practice.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I'm in favor of Justin Taylor staying. All accounts even to the detriment of team his work ethic and attitude got him playing time. This summer he takes that work ethic and does the things he needs to improve. Remember Lazarus Sims and Howard Triche? They both had disastrous first two seasons. Then both turned it around,became valuable starters and played in championship games.

From people seemingly in the know...

he gone

 

[Millhouse]

Why TF would copeland not be starting PG next year? Baffled

Maybe autry wants to be good

 

[Dmcnabbrules]

Sometimes people are what they show you. Copland has no business being a starting point guard in the ACC. He had the perfect role this year. If he wants more that’s fine, it’s just not going to be here. No hard feelings. Let’s get a 6 foot point guard who can shot and pass. We don’t have to be married to to 6’4 combo guard who we convert anymore. It’s been too long since Tyler Ennis.

 

[tbonezone]

yeah, I don’t believe rumors anymore. Stuff gets exaggerated…like the Maliq and Benny stuff from earlier in the season.

 

[hoopsupstate]

Why TF would copeland not be starting PG next year? Baffled

Because he has no clue how to play the position. You can’t be a human turnover machine and be a point guard. You don’t get extra points for stupid passes that might get through 20% of the time. When you learn to make the simple pass 100% time and forget trying to make a home run pass 100% time, you might get a chance to play point. After two years, Copeland has learned very little trying to make 50/50 passes.

 

[Cstate]

Why TF would copeland not be starting PG next year? Baffled

This is why……

 

[Wrinkle]

Because he has no clue how to play the position. You can’t be a human turnover machine and be a point guard. You don’t get extra points for stupid passes that might get through 20% of the time. When you learn to make the simple pass 100% time and forget trying to make a home run pass 100% time, you might get a chance to play point. After two years, Copeland has learned very little trying to make 50/50 passes.

Some of the best playmakers in the game at all levels are turnover prone. You live with TOs when the player is gifted enough

 

[Wrinkle]

Because he has no clue how to play the position. You can’t be a human turnover machine and be a point guard. You don’t get extra points for stupid passes that might get through 20% of the time. When you learn to make the simple pass 100% time and forget trying to make a home run pass 100% time, you might get a chance to play point. After two years, Copeland has learned very little trying to make 50/50 passes.

Everybody would like to see less turnovers but Copeland makes passes that other players simply cannot

 

[two3zone]

Some of the best playmakers in the game at all levels are turnover prone. You live with TOs when the player is gifted enough

Exactly!




















That’s not Copeland.

 

[Wrinkle]

Exactly!




















That’s not Copeland.

Come on brother outside of Kadary cope is the most gifted playmaker we have had in decades

 

[Consigliere]

From people seemingly in the know...

he gone

Seemingly being the operative word. Seriously, if Snopes ever found this forum they would have to triple their staff!

 

[two3zone]

Come on brother outside of Kadary cope is the most gifted playmaker we have had in decades

He was a playmaker when it benefited him, when he could make a flashy play, outside of that he was spinning here and spinning there, turning it over and chucking threes. Everyone remembers the oooos and ahhhhhs, but most of the time the results after were awful. The issue with that is, you don’t remember the awful.

 

[Wrinkle]

He was a playmaker when it benefited him, when he could make a flashy play, outside of that he was spinning here and spinning there, turning it over and chucking threes. Everyone remembers the oooos and ahhhhhs, but most of the time the results after were awful. The issue with that is, you don’t remember the awful.

For years team hard-hedge our pick and roll. Like Kadary before him, cope is the only player capable of hitting the roll man in this situation. When our offense is a steady diet of pick and roll this is the difference between a functioning offense and garbage

 

[tbonezone]

Everybody would like to see less turnovers but Copeland makes passes that other players simply cannot

you watched the game ? his turnovers were actually assists ... going the other way

 

[Cuse181]

Come on brother outside of Kadary cope is the most gifted playmaker we have had in decades

Making 1 or 2 flashy plays a game doesn’t equate to being a “play maker.” The amount of easy plays he missed in favor of trying to make a sports center highlight were innumerable.

 

[Sherman20]

Why TF would copeland not be starting PG next year? Baffled

I’m with you on Q. For most of this season, I assumed him and Chance would be our main PGs next season or maybe we would add another PG from the portal. But from what all these insiders are saying in this thread, it sounds like Q was a problem behind the scenes, doesn’t listen to the coaches and shows disrespect for Red, and that there are a couple of other players that behave in a similarly negative manner. You could see some of the acting-out on the sidelines but I just viewed it as a player who plays passionately. Sounds like it’s more of a problem than that.

 

[MSOrange]

This is why……

Thank you! I was actually going to post those stats, because I was curious about his assist to turnover rate. You want a highlight reel? QC is my guy. I'm not sure he's the guy I want as my lead guard for a steady presence 30-35 minutes per game