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[TheCusian]

Regardless of whether it makes sense, its reality. And it's a reason for a huge percentage of the "likes" people recieve. Nobody has a problem with someone being right when it means the team has met or exceeded expecations and we're all happy. But when someone accurately points out negatives that the majority disagrees with at the time, it does not go over well. Or when someone gives a negative opinion that is wrong, it's just fine for people to bring that up with no backlash. I don't like the double standard, regardless of whether I agreed with the specific opinion when it was given or how that opinion aged.

This thread is less about whether someone was right or wrong and more about how that person was responded to when they gave their opinion.

I understand that - I've said as much in the thread. I'm not sure what people are actually asking for? No disagreement? I think that's lame and will lead to a less interesting place to talk about this stuff.

Look, when I have a take, I'm mentally prepared to stand by it, get pushback, and/or admit when I'm wrong if need be. I also try to not be dismissive, call people names, pile on too much - or keep a record of when I'm right and wrong or when other posters are right and wrong.

I think it's wacky that posters will say after a 10 win season "I think we only win 3" and not expect pushback, be willing to make the case, etc.

Again, "being right" can't be the currency. I'd argue "likes" are less about being right and more about "making a good point" or "being entertaining" ... Come to think of it, seems like the people most in agreement with the OP are the ones who think "being right" is the most important thing...

 

[SU2NASA]

How do you know it was that. Isn't it possible he saw stuff that led him to his conclusion? How is your assumption about his psyche any more reasonable than what he said about the team? Are you assuming he had certain emotions because those were yours? Can you say for certain he was not in a rational mindset drawing conclusions about was he had seen the first half of the season? Since many more are now drawing similar comclusions after the BC game, are we now also making random H0T Takes?

I think, more than anything, you're pissed because: 1. The team has looked just as bad as it did when he said what he said. 2. He looks closer to being correct than you.

Pissed? I honestly don’t really care about some clown on a message board that feels the need to spike the football on a hot take that still has 3 games to be proven true.

I think a better way to put it is that I ridicule someone so insecure and in need of validation that they post a brand new thread to say “hooray for me!”, when the season still has 3 games left.

And if SU loses the next 3, I’ll send him a Congratulations greeting card that he can have framed.

That said, can the OP please message me his mailing address?

 

[qdawgg]

I had a whole post written and then deleted it. Maybe I'm getting wiser.

This thread has been a funny read in many ways.

 

[Cusefan69]

We saw what all the voters that had us in the preseason too 25 saw.

Otto I agree with a number of things you post but we all know that the voters don't have much knowledge on Cuse if at all and either just go with how last year ended or pull their magic 8 ball out for preseason predictions.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Otto I agree with a number of things you post but we all know that the voters don't have much knowledge on Cuse if at all and either just go with how last year ended or pull their magic 8 ball out for preseason predictions.

Ok, but so what? We had threads about how as a fanbase we would be upset if we weren't in the Top 25.

So from both near and far the expectation was we were going to be a lot better than we are.

 

[Cusefan69]

Ok, but so what? We had threads about how as a fanbase we would be upset if we weren't in the Top 25.

So from both near and far the expectation was we were going to be a lot better than we are.

Ok but so what? Cuz you used it as the basis of your answer?

 

[storange]

Otto I agree with a number of things you post but we all know that the voters don't have much knowledge on Cuse if at all and either just go with how last year ended or pull their magic 8 ball out for preseason predictions.

Some pre season analysts go a little deeper into it and do a decent job. Nobody , based on analysis could have predicted the results for us this year. 5-7 or 6-6 could have been a low end logical prediction. The 3-9 pick was just negative BS when it was made.

 

[Cusefan69]

Some pre season analysts go a little deeper into it and do a decent job. Nobody , based on analysis could have predicted the results for us this year. 5-7 or 6-6 could have been a low end logical prediction. The 3-9 pick was just negative BS when it was made.

Voters and Analysts are not necessarily synonymous. I was speaking specifically to Ottos comment about the validity of the voters. Whether you think the OPs original message was wrong is another thing.

 

[ORRange]

Some pre season analysts go a little deeper into it and do a decent job. Nobody , based on analysis could have predicted the results for us this year. 5-7 or 6-6 could have been a low end logical prediction. The 3-9 pick was just negative BS when it was made.
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Actually Vegas had a low end logical prediction. They have a few analysts on board and their take was ridiculed on the board.

 

[storange]

show me a vegas pre season 3 wins over under or any of the other futures they use.

 

[TheCusian]

It doesn't matter who is right. I doesn't matter who was right. Just make a good argument, share interesting stuff, or be entertaining.

NO ONE CARES WHO WAS RIGHT OR WRONG

 

[ORRange]

show me a vegas pre season 3 wins over under or any of the other futures they use.

Who said that? I didn't. Vegas had us 6 wins over or under. Geezus, so I can't show you or did I say that. Who crapped in your Easter basket.

 

[jncuse]

I don't post much on the football forum, but I wonder why the doom and gloom posters on the basketball boards did not bump their threads that said we would go 0-18 in the ACC or only win 3 or 4 games. After all their doom and gloom predictions were so right...

 

[OrangeDW]

I don't post much on the football forum, but I wonder why the doom and gloom posters on the basketball boards did not bump their threads that said we would go 0-18 in the ACC or only win 3 or 4 games. After all their doom and gloom predictions were so right...

There was an 0-36 in the ACC over two years prediction at one point.

 

[MSOrange]

I think it was Cherriehoops and SU2NASA... my posts earlier this year that we'd go 3-9 were just horrendous... I still claim I was judging what I saw... what a terrible opinion. I dont want to bring it up but I was so vehemently trashed earlier this year for saying the same thing, so I feel like I have to... again not pessimistic... realistic

Your 3-9 prediction isn't looking so great now. Doggone it! And you were so proud too. Tough break

 

[FloridaFan]

Your 3-9 prediction isn't looking so great now. Doggone it! And you were so proud too. Tough break

Normally I’d say this was petty but this thread annoyed me

 

[MSOrange]

Normally I’d say this was petty but this thread annoyed me

I try not to do it, but I like to think he started it with the bringing up stuff from the past

 

[FloridaFan]

I try not to do it, but I like to think he started it with the bringing up stuff from the past

I fully agree. We will be going 7-6

 

[Mchandl8]

Your 3-9 prediction isn't looking so great now. Doggone it! And you were so proud too. Tough break

I'm thrilled to be wrong about 3-9, the point of the thread was that you shouldn't bash people who have different opinions than you. I didnt see a good team in the beginning of the year. People told me how stupid I was and a troll for expressing that opinion. I'm hoping we can get to 6-6 and a bowl, but I'm not betting on that

 

[DBCooper]

I'm thrilled to be wrong about 3-9, the point of the thread was that you shouldn't bash people who have different opinions than you. I didnt see a good team in the beginning of the year. People told me how stupid I was and a troll for expressing that opinion. I'm hoping we can get to 6-6 and a bowl, but I'm not betting on that

Of course you're not.

 

[cuse309]

When you like pointing out how right you are, people like pointing out how wrong you are even more.

 

[Mchandl8]

Of course you're not.

So I should be betting on us to finish the year 3-0? It's possible, and despite what you may think I really do want that, but it's not probable.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I'm thrilled to be wrong about 3-9, the point of the thread was that you shouldn't bash people who have different opinions than you.

You're on the internet, on a message board, for sports fans, and your opinion was in direct conflict with the enthusiasm many even outside of our fanbase had for what could be possible this season.

Except... you didn't even present what you had as informed opinion. You put it out there as an emotional, negative hot take and then doubled down.

You were very quick to be vocal when the team has played poorly. You're not nearly as present when they play well. So don't be surprised that you aren't getting the benefit of the doubt.

 

[SU2NASA]

I'm thrilled to be wrong about 3-9, the point of the thread was that you shouldn't bash people who have different opinions than you. I didnt see a good team in the beginning of the year. People told me how stupid I was and a troll for expressing that opinion. I'm hoping we can get to 6-6 and a bowl, but I'm not betting on that

I went back through the thread and not a single person called you stupid.

I said it was a terrible thread to post, and it was.

 

[Mchandl8]

You're on the internet, on a message board, for sports fans, and your opinion was in direct conflict with the enthusiasm many even outside of our fanbase had for what could be possible this season.

Except... you didn't even present what you had as informed opinion. You put it out there as an emotional, negative hot take and then doubled down.

You were very quick to be vocal when the team has played poorly. You're not nearly as present when they play well. So don't be surprised that you aren't getting the benefit of the doubt.

I was on last season, being thrilled. I went to game 1 this year and could see... this isnt last years team. I've been positive and negative depending on what I see... it's not like I came on this year for the first time. The problem is anything negative is not tolerated, even if it's valid