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Someone Had To Do It: Miami Attendance

richmondcuse03 said:
not only that but fran simply being out in the community in syracuse helps. Dino was noticeably absent. Fran volunteering in the community and showing up at local football games matters. Not to mention, he's got a young son who's involved in local sports and he'll have a daughter not far behind. He understands the benefits of community involvement -- Dino was a military brat who was never invested in any community. It's not a knock but just a reflection of their upbringings. And Fran's is much more relatable to the people he recruits and our fans.
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I went to Heritage Hill a couple of times for the Dino show. He made a bee line for the door when the show was over. In He couldn’t wait to get out of there. Fran hangs around and talks to people. It makes a difference
 
Growing up in the area..."big games" were the norm from before I can remember, so it was obvious you'd bug your family to get up early and drive to the dome

For anyone under 18, Syracuse football has been a joke. It's going to take time to get the younger fans back into the loop.

Not to mention, growing up there was no Gameday type shows pimping the SEC and Big 10, it's much easier to be a fan of a school outside your region. I think I could see every BOISE STATE game this year if I wanted.
 
TexanMark said:
They do love the circular urinal though
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Apologies for crossing the streams, but do you mean this?

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David321 said:
That is the implication as I've never heard otherwise. If you have information you can share I'd genuinely like to hear it.
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I have information and no I can’t share my source.
 
TexanMark said:
Dino hit the lottery with the 2018 team. Sadly we all were duped that a new era was upon us.
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Eric masked our OL problems , TD came in and couldn’t do the same. Covid came next. That wasn’t the end though October of 22 was the end , we are beating Clemson soundly at half on the verge of going 7-0 and hitting the top 10. We lost that game with some bizzare officiating and although Dino got to 4-0 the next year things would never be the same.
 
OburgOrange said:
I went to Heritage Hill a couple of times for the Dino show. He made a bee line for the door when the show was over. In He couldn’t wait to get out of there. Fran hangs around and talks to people. It makes a difference
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Dino seemed to think of fans as a nuisance, except on game days when he wanted the Dome filled. Not the type of personality we need in the NIL era for sure.
 
NJneer12 said:
My understanding was after the firing, he more or less group texted the team. Most coaches say goodbye. Not all of it is publicized.
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We don't need to rehash this... I've heard from someone that was on the staff that a good number of players (could have been the whole team or in groups, I can't say that for certain) were invited to his house the week after the last game of the year after they had wrapped up the regular season.

Regardless, I think we should collectively move on.
 
David321 said:
I definitely felt like a nuisance when I met him after a spring game.
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My daughter met him and his daughter in a chance meeting . She had the opposite experience. I’ve heard others say the same. So I guess it’s your personal experience.
 
CuseVegas said:
Until something changes, I am very skeptical we will ever sell out the tickets AND have a capacity crowd at a football game again. There's many possible factors, but #1 is the pricing and availability of tickets.

The overall game experience and tickets are severely overpriced, and the tickets are digital, so until that changes we won't have a capacity crowd ever again. The Holy Cross "sell out" (where we had ~36,000 people in attendance) was so ridiculous to me.

The concession prices are solely the university's fault- the 16oz beer cans are $16 and mixed drinks are $23. I asked for a cup with my beer and they told me an empty cup would be an additional $23 because of how they operate. Who would want to deal with all that BS unless they are a die hard Cuse football fan??

But to me, the digital ticketing price bubble is really the major issue- our fans are getting raked over the coals. Most people don't know Seatgeek prices are vastly higher than ticketmaster's prices, especially casual fans that we want to bring into the fold with us. Ticketmaster's prices are marked up 20% or more form what the seller designates. The digital ticketing system is truly a complete nightmare. They are causing the tickets sold online to be priced at ~150% of the asking price.

***If I put a football ticket on sale for $44, it will be on ticketmaster for approximately $70, and seatgeek for approximately $100. Although I receive $39 when the tickets sells, a buyer may pay over $100 for that same ticket on Seatgeek (maybe $80 on TM) and yet I collect $39 on that sale.

Also, we no longer have flippers outside the Dome buying and selling the last few hundreds/thousand tickets that were unspoken for. If i want to simply give my tickets away, I need to get someone's email address, log into a digital ticket system, "send" them the ticket, and then have them create an account and password, etc, and sign up for the stupid app, just so someone can use the ticket. It is an incredibly dumb system that will continue to suppress attendance.

My tickets don't always get used because of this bad system, and even with the shrunken dome, it will be borderline impossible for us to find 44,000 upstate New Yorkers that are okay with spending a 50% premium on digital tickets, that will download the digital ticket app, pay $30 to park and then pay $16 for a can of beer.

Older fans also absolutely hate this app/digital ticket process. It is really a mix of foolish and inconsiderate that they did this and left fans with no ability to get printed tickets or to print out PDFs of their tickets. Raiders season ticket holders or SU LAX fans, etc, don't get hassled in this manner.
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A lot of this is incorrect, but I have to start with this - Are you actually complaining about there no longer being scalpers outside the Dome?

The digital ticketing price bubble? That whole paragraph makes no sense. Fans will look at whatever site has the cheapest available tickets after fees, and buy them there. The issue is the secondary market is usually cheaper as people are trying to flip tickets quickly, so rather than selling unsold inventory, seats that are already sold are changing hands.

The secondary market and singles market usually pick up in the last 3 days leading up to a game. You can't really force people to buy earlier.

Paper tickets and PDFs are ripe for counterfeiting which makes an even worse experience for fans than having to log into an app. It's not a dumb system at all.

How is it harder to open an app, click "transfer tickets" and type someone's name/email, rather than having to mail your tickets or go out of your way to meet someone to hand them additional tickets?
 

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