SU Needs a Running QB Who Has Played that Way Forever

[OrangeinBoston]

Those guys know how to protect themselves. Remember McNabb? Never got seriously hurt unlike Shrader who takes contact to make sure he does.

 

[Nicknack]

Yes please. Unless we can significantly improve the o line, we need dual threat qbs who can finish a damn season. Both Dungey and Shrader have been great (when healthy), but when they have gone down, the team did as well.

 

[FrancoPizza]

Those guys know how to protect themselves. Remember McNabb? Never got seriously hurt unlike Shrader who takes contact to make sure he does.

Add graves Womack mason and macpherson. These guys played a collective 10 seasons and never got seriously hurt. Other than Donnie mac they didn’t have the best pass pro offensive lines either.

Are today’s kids just getting softer?

 

[OrangeinBoston]

Add graves Womack mason and macpherson. These guys played a collective 10 seasons and never got seriously hurt. Other than Donnie mac they didn’t have the best pass pro offensive lines either.

Are today’s kids just getting softer?

Nope. If you watched BC's QB last weekend, you could see him making sure he slid down before he got clobbered. Every time.

 

[Millhouse]

Those guys know how to protect themselves. Remember McNabb? Never got seriously hurt unlike Shrader who takes contact to make sure he does.

Shrader takes a lot of hits holding the ball too long

I thought we would be getting Nick Florence and Big Boned Pirate with Babers. Sling it around quick with relatively ordinary QBs or run straight ahead based on what the defense shows you ahead of time covering the wr way out wide. When you get an rg3 then you can be the best offense ever but it's not required

 

[Millhouse]

Add graves Womack mason and macpherson. These guys played a collective 10 seasons and never got seriously hurt. Other than Donnie mac they didn’t have the best pass pro offensive lines either.

Are today’s kids just getting softer?

Schedule has to factor in.

 

[Newhouser]

Shrader is not a juke and move guy. He is straight line fast, but getting to the straight dash is where he usually gets drilled.

 

[FRANKIEFAN]

Shraders sample size of playing badly injured is so high I’m not sure he has time to protect himself.

After what we saw against BC you can’t really have any gripes with him. We didn’t even see the degenerative high ankle sprain this year and he’s still badly hurt.

Gonna be more turnover on our offense than Colorado this year. Not a bad thing I guess.

 

[NineOneSeven]

How about a QB that can throw for 250+ consistently in the Dome we play in?

 

[UnknownOrange]

Yeah we don't need a specific style QB

We can flourish with a running QB, a run n shoot qb, a air raid qb, a triple option qb, a whoever -- as long as the team around that player is built for success

 

[FrancoPizza]

Schedule has to factor in.

It factors in but we did schedule more aggressively out of conference back then

 

[SanDiegoCuse]

Incoming HS QB Jakhari Williams seems to fit that profile but if Dino doesn’t stay on, I doubt he stays committed. In no way, shape or form an I saying keep Dino to keep the kid.

 

[Eric15]

Those guys know how to protect themselves. Remember McNabb? Never got seriously hurt unlike Shrader who takes contact to make sure he does.

McNabb had a pretty serious shoulder injury his junior year, but I agree with your underlying point.

 

[Cuseregular]

How about a QB that can throw for 250+ consistently in the Dome we play in?

in order to do that he'll need be elusive because of the perenial never ending and not expected to end anytime soon issue of the pourous offensive line concerns here. I think one year and only one year in 1988 with blake bednarz we had a top OL but not since.

 

[007]

Nope. If you watched BC's QB last weekend, you could see him making sure he slid down before he got clobbered. Every time.

The BC QB has elite quickness (different talent from straight line 40 speed). And he made great decisions about getting as much as he could when running while not letting defenders line him up for big hits. Kind of similar to Travis at FSU in that regard.

 

[007]

I've been saying ad nauseam that the program needs to bring in 1-2 QBs every cycle (HS or portal, preferably both). With very few exceptions over the past 20+ seasons, there has never been enough talent in the QB room at SU. Bring in numbers. Let them openly compete for QB 1 and 2 regardless of the incumbents. Play the best. Let the remainder transfer, switch positions, or hope they develop. The numbers will take care of themselves.

That philosophy does not guarantee anything other than having options and hopefully varying skill sets. Unless we catch lightning in a bottle, you can't expect to get AA talent. But we have to be able find accurate, fast processing decision makers who can get rid of the ball quickly (Milhouse's point). Or dual threat types with enough arm talent, quickness, and decison making football IQ to be playmakers.

 

[donniesyracuse]

Those guys know how to protect themselves. Remember McNabb? Never got seriously hurt unlike Shrader who takes contact to make sure he does.

To be fair, people wore giant pads back then.

 

[sufandu]

McNabb had a pretty serious shoulder injury his junior year, but I agree with your underlying point.

I believe word was he had two separated shoulders.

 

[OrangeinBoston]

The BC QB has elite quickness (different talent from straight line 40 speed). And he made great decisions about getting as much as he could when running while not letting defenders line him up for big hits. Kind of similar to Travis at FSU in that regard.

This guy is a portal transfer. BC has a good OL. And, they benched the tall pocket passer for a guy who can run (and not get killed in the process).