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SU opens +19 at Pitt

Dmcnabbrules said:
Maybe not the thread for it but Elmore was our 2nd or at worst/best third lineman on Sat. Vetterollo and and Tisdale really struggled in my opinion.
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I watched him quite a bit. He did a pretty good job on pass blocking. I think he was able to use his size (or lack there of) to his advantage by using the lower leverage to stand up the rusher. Someone else mentioned it, why are we not pulling him on some runs? As a FB/TE his blocking ability on runs will be better when he is moving before engaging on the blocks.
 
Johnson's drop, PR illegal block, Devito's over throws and a few badly missed calls and the UNC game was 31-28 vs 31-6. Obviously the quality of team is in large part measured by completing and executing on such plays. Even two of those and it's 31-20.

My worry against Pitt is the cut backs and mis direction running plays. They have chewed us up on those every game under Babers with their power running wearing us down. Against UNC we did well until the 4th when fatigue took over in shutting those down. We need to complete some of the opportunities noted above and have juice left in the D in the 4th.

This defense shows promise still in creating turnovers. Thus hopefully we can keep that going and finally cash in a couple times for a change.
 
Orangezoo said:
Johnson's drop, PR illegal block, Devito's over throws and a few badly missed calls and the UNC game was 31-28 vs 31-6. Obviously the quality of team is in large part measured by completing and executing on such plays. Even two of those and it's 31-20.

My worry against Pitt is the cut backs and mis direction running plays. They have chewed us up on those every game under Babers with their power running wearing us down. Against UNC we did well until the 4th when fatigue took over in shutting those down. We need to complete some of the opportunities noted above and have juice left in the D in the 4th.

This defense shows promise still in creating turnovers. Thus hopefully we can keep that going and finally cash in a couple times for a change.
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I keep hoping...
 
Based on that spread and O/U it looks like Vegas is pretty sure our offense will be ineffective. Looks like they see a 35-14 type of game. I feel that may be pretty accurate. If the offense doesn't move, Pitt will run on us all day and break us by the 2nd half.
 
JeremyCuse said:
It unfortunately speaks to what the opinion of SU is outside of the bubble of this board. No one should be pushing the Defcon 5 button after 1 freeking game but the red warning lights should be blinding about this team after that opening performance, save for the defense.
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100% Again, this is YEAR 5! If perception is indeed reality, well this speaks volumes imo. If I'm Dino, I'm completely embarrassed for myself, let alone for Syracuse University. :(:(
 
This is year 5 for Dino. Yes. But it's actually year 4, +1 game.

It's actually year 4 for Dino, +1 game with an offensive and defensive coordinator that have only 1 game of coordinating experience in the ACC

Season 5 hasn't been fully played yet. If Cuse loses by 22 to Pitt, the season still hasn't been played. Fire has not fallen from heaven yet
 
bnoro said:
Yes, Dino is embarrassed because of a point spread. I'm embarrassed for you too.
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Just as you have difficulty visualizing (based upon comments in the crane thread) you also struggle with comprehending the broader scope. I'll spell it out for you...it's not the point spread per se, but the perception out there that Syracuse will get crushed yet again against a peer school. That's what I find embarrassing, and so should Dino, in my opinion.

I doubt very much you are embarrassed for me as much as you enjoy attempting to embarrass others here from what I've seen. Good for you...hope it fulfills your apparent need...the likes should help with this I'm certain.
 
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orangecuse said:
Just as you have difficulty visualizing (based upon comments in the crane thread) you also struggle with comprehending the broader scope. I'll spell it out for you...it's not the point spread per se, but the perception out there that Syracuse will get crushed yet again against a peer school. That's what I find embarrassing, and so should Dino, in my opinion.

I doubt very much you are embarrassed for me as much as you enjoy attempting to embarrass others here from what I've seen. Good for you...hope it fulfills your apparent need...the likes should help with this I'm certain.
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And with that said we have hauled in two big gets at WR in the past few weeks so perception isn't in the pits yet and that is straight from recruiting.
 
orangecuse said:
Just as you have difficulty visualizing (based upon comments in the crane thread) you also struggle with comprehending the broader scope. I'll spell it out for you...it's not the point spread per se, but the perception out there that Syracuse will get crushed yet again against a peer school. That's what I find embarrassing, and so should Dino, in my opinion.

I doubt very much you are embarrassed for me as much as you enjoy attempting to embarrass others here from what I've seen. Good for you...hope it fulfills your apparent need...the likes should help with this I'm certain.
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Despite not being able to visualize how renderings would look in real life (answer: pretty great), I can visualize that this football team is moving in the right direction despite a poor result on Saturday. I think we'll hang with Pitt, just like we hung with UNC, and maybe even steal something.

Recruiting is looking up, our defense is looking up, and hopefully Sterlin shows us something better this week. But I'll look on the positive and you can look on the negative and we'll see who has more fun this season.

xo
 
Entropic said:
I watched him quite a bit. He did a pretty good job on pass blocking. I think he was able to use his size (or lack there of) to his advantage by using the lower leverage to stand up the rusher. Someone else mentioned it, why are we not pulling him on some runs? As a FB/TE his blocking ability on runs will be better when he is moving before engaging on the blocks.
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Outside of Diamond Ferri's legendary game, have we had a more versatile player in the last several decades?

FB, TE, DL, OL.
 
The line in this game just keep reflecting what ACC coaches said about the team before the season and how little talent we have. About how we have no one on the all ACC preseason team. I know its only one game but Im going to turn that around on our defense. Im not ready yet to say after one game they can play at an elite level for an entire season. I want to see 3-4 games against varying offenses and see how they hold up. I want to see how they hold up against a big physical offensive line that is healthy , North Carolina was down to six healthy lineman. I want to see them react if we get down a couple of touchdowns early and they are in a smash mouth game. I have been fooled before early in the year

Dont get me wrong I saw some really good things out there but lets not jump ahead after one game on our defense either. They are going to have to hold up for ten more games with questionable depth.

The offense is going nowhere until they can get serviceable OL play and some better play calling .
 
Don said:
The line in this game just keep reflecting what ACC coaches said about the team before the season and how little talent we have. About how we have no one on the all ACC preseason team. I know its only one game but Im going to turn that around on our defense. Im not ready yet to say after one game they can play at an elite level for an entire season. I want to see 3-4 games against varying offenses and see how they hold up. I want to see how they hold up against a big physical offensive line that is healthy , North Carolina was down to six healthy lineman. I want to see them react if we get down a couple of touchdowns early and they are in a smash mouth game. I have been fooled before early in the year

Dont get me wrong I saw some really good things out there but lets not jump ahead after one game on our defense either. They are going to have to hold up for ten more games with questionable depth.

The offense is going nowhere until they can get serviceable OL play and some better play calling .
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If we can't look forward to our defense either, this is going to be a really long season.
 
CuseOnly said:
They may not be better than UNC as far as skill position talent but on the OL and DL, they are better for sure.

They are a team that starts to lean on your D with the power running game starting in the first quarter. UNC didn't run the ball much until late in the 3rd and the whole 4th qtr. Expect that to start at kickoff with Pitt and we will be gassed on D in the 2nd quarter.
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They moved away from that run game last year to a new OC and more pass heavy O.
 
I would be shocked if it was over 19 points. UNC has much more talent on the offensive side of the ball then PITT. But, yes, it ultimately comes down to our offense and if our offense can do anything.
 
TheCusian said:
They moved away from that run game last year to a new OC and more pass heavy O.
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I guarantee that with Narduzzi as their head coach with the exact same mentality as Marrone and the Dazzler. All it takes is a few running plays that work it will be like blood in the water, they will call the same play until we prove we can stop it. With their OL being all ACC and their RB's it wont take them long to figure it out.

Those old school coaches always want to run the ball, that will never change.
 
CuseOnly said:
All it takes is a few running plays that work it will be like blood in the water, they will call the same play until we prove we can stop it.

Those old school coaches always want to run the ball, that will never change.
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And Dino is the exact same way. He will run it and run it and run it, even beyond pounding his own head into the wall. It's what has to be established in the game of football. We have to get better at running it and stopping it
 
I saw the line for the UNC game and thought, "NO WAY" and guess what Vegas was spot on again. It is almost eerie how the line more often then not is very close at the end of a game.

I expect a 34-13 game. Pitt takes it. Sigh... I have taken off the orange colored glasses as they say. I expect we move the ball decently well but sputter out in the red zone often. I expect we hold the game close until the second half. I expect 200+ rushing yards from pitt. What we have seen with this team is what we will get, that is what I have learned since last season. But heck PROVE ME WRONG TEAM!
 
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