SU opens -9.5 over Stanford…

[orangetom]

is this the best academic school SU has ever faced if you use US News and World Report as the barometer? I guess have we played MIT, Harvard or Yale before?

I looked it up. Never played MIT or Harvard. We have played Yale 11 times, the last time in 1912. And we're 0-11 against them.

 

[sutomcat]

is this the best academic school SU has ever faced if you use US News and World Report as the barometer? I guess have we played MIT, Harvard or Yale before?

I don't think Syracuse has ever played MIT or Harvard in football.

Syracuse played Yale 11 years in a row starting in 1902. Nothing since then. All the games were on the road, even though SU had a nicer, newer stadium (partly inspired by Harvard's) for most of them.

It will be interesting to see if SU ever plays an Ivy league school again in football. We used to play Cornell and Columbia every season.

 

[upperdeck]

new coach at cornell is changing the culture for sure

 

[orangenauburn]

Nerds

 

[elimunelson]

I don't think Syracuse has ever played MIT or Harvard in football.

Syracuse played Yale 11 years in a row starting in 1902. Nothing since then. All the games were on the road, even though SU had a nicer, newer stadium (partly inspired by Harvard's) for most of them.

It will be interesting to see if SU ever plays an Ivy league school again in football. We used to play Cornell and Columbia every season.

i don't think the ivy league can play D1 power conf teams?

 

[sutomcat]

i don't think the ivy league can play D1 power conf teams?

If by D1 power conference teams, you mean FBS schools, this used to be true but no longer is. UConn played Yale for instance in 2021.

2021 Football Schedule - Yale University

The official 2021 Football schedule for the

yalebulldogs.com

I think it was changed fairly recently. After this article anyway...

2021 Football Schedule - Yale University

The official 2021 Football schedule for the

yalebulldogs.com

That said, it is one thing to play UConn and another to play Syracuse.

I don't blame Cornell and Columbia if they choose to pass on this.

 

[TexanMark]

is this the best academic school SU has ever faced if you use US News and World Report as the barometer? I guess have we played MIT, Harvard or Yale before?

I think Army and Navy are really good too, those kids have to excel athletically and morally too.

 

[690West]

Up to -10 at most books tonight.

 

[690West]

Some good mid week money coming in for Stanford. Down to -8.5 all over the place.

 

[Scotch]

Some good mid week money coming in for Stanford. Down to -8.5 all over the place.

This has been a rollercoaster! Seems like sharp groups see this one differently.

 

[721Comstock]

This has been a rollercoaster! Seems like sharp groups see this one differently.

Huh?

If the line has varied from -8.5 to -10,

it seems like pretty much everybody thinks Cuse is gonna win by 2 scores.

I get that if Cuse wins by 9, that there is a massive difference between having them at -8.5 vs -9.5.

But IRL - it’s a convincing W for the proper block S either way.

Let’s just win by 10+ and make it a moot point.

 

[Scotch]

Huh?

If the line has varied from -8.5 to -10,

it seems like pretty much everybody thinks Cuse is gonna win by 2 scores.

I get that if Cuse wins by 9, that there is a massive difference between having them at -8.5 vs -9.5.

But IRL - it’s a convincing W for the proper block S either way.

Let’s just win by 10+ and make it a moot point.

There have been 2-3 pretty big swings in the line movement (from 8.5 -10.5) before Wednesday. Moving a line requires a lot of money and usually sharp money (especially on a pretty obscure game nationally, can’t see the public all over this) and this one has gone back and forth. It feels like competing sharp groups making plays.

 

[upperdeck]

Down to 8 today

 

[upperdeck]

There have been 2-3 pretty big swings in the line movement (from 8.5 -10.5) before Wednesday. Moving a line requires a lot of money and usually sharp money (especially on a pretty obscure game nationally, can’t see the public all over this) and this one has gone back and forth. It feels like competing sharp groups making plays.

I dont think it takes much to move an SU line that doesnt get a ton of play anyway.

 

[kirbivore]

I don’t think the team cares about the point spread or the optics of the final score. I doubt they have thought about the game since they looked at the game video.
Come Monday, they will start their prep for Stanford.

At some of your larger football factory state schools the players don't care about that but the coach does. If he needs to score a pile on TD to cover the spread for the boosters he'll do it.

 

[VTAaron]

Huh?

If the line has varied from -8.5 to -10,

it seems like pretty much everybody thinks Cuse is gonna win by 2 scores.

I get that if Cuse wins by 9, that there is a massive difference between having them at -8.5 vs -9.5.

But IRL - it’s a convincing W for the proper block S either way.

Let’s just win by 10+ and make it a moot point.

Maybe everyone thinks it will be like GT and we will give up points in the end that shouldn’t have happeend. Stanford is somewhat of an exception known to SU as new to the conf and never played. So who knows.

 

[FrancoPizza]

Down to 8 today

What is going on here? Is somebody out?

 

[dwilmont44]

Still 8.5 at Circa which is the standard for CFB

 

[UnknownOrange]

 

[DomeHolmes]

Keep in mind with this particular site, where the odds go down and makes it more attractive to bet Syracuse, the payout also goes down. apparently here it started out at -10.5, where you bet $105 to win 100. the first big drop to 9.5 you had to bet $122 to win 100 and when it settled at 8.5 you need to bet $115 to win 100. (ended up -112) So it can get complicated, but if more money comes in on Stanford and they reduce the payout for Syracuse bettors, the casino gets it both ways. What this usually means is, they think that the Syracuse bettors will love the new line. So if early money came in on Stanford and there’s less money on Syracuse, they can even out the $ on each team keeping the line low, and pay out less If Cuse covers.

 

[orangefog]

Keep in mind with this particular site, where the odds go down and makes it more attractive to bet Syracuse, the payout also goes down. apparently here it started out at -10.5, where you bet $105 to win 100. the first big drop to 9.5 you had to bet $122 to win 100 and when it settled at 8.5 you need to bet $115 to win 100. (ended up -112) So it can get complicated, but if more money comes in on Stanford and they reduce the payout for Syracuse bettors, the casino gets it both ways. What this usually means is, they think that the Syracuse bettors will love the new line. So if early money came in on Stanford and there’s less money on Syracuse, they can even out the $ on each team keeping the line low, and pay out less If Cuse covers.

I am an idiot, so if you bet $100, you would actually walk away with $12? Or $112?

 

[TheHaze315]

I am an idiot, so if you bet $100, you would actually walk away with $12? Or $112?

If you bet $100 on a -112 line you’d win roughly $90. If you bet $112 on -112 line you’d bring back exactly $100.

 

[orangefog]

If you bet $100 on a -112 line you’d win roughly $90. If you bet $112 on -112 line you’d bring back exactly $100.

Ah ok, thank you

 

[ECE '76]

Syracuse played Yale 11 years in a row starting in 1902. Nothing since then. All the games were on the road, even though SU had a nicer, newer stadium (partly inspired by Harvard's) for most of them.

Harvard's stadium is still there to this day and being used. It's a real throwback to go inside and get memories of old Archbold. Yeah, you sit on concrete...

I remember Joe Paterno scheduled a PSU home game vs Brown in 1983, because he was a Brown alum.

 

[Eric15]

What I don’t want to see tomorrow is a game like UVA in 2022. Coming off an emotional victory vs Purdue we came out fantastic in the first quarter against Virginia, but got sluggish and allowed them to hang around. And it took some good fortune to end up winning.

We need to keep the foot on the gas from start to finish.

If I remember correctly we were around a 10 point favorite on that Friday night game also.