Symir Injury Updates...

[IthacaMatt]

Or we could just give a participation trophy everytime someone gets a booboo. Wasn't Moyer going to play until his helicopter mom got involved.

Don't you remember watching guys, lots of them, who could barely run up and down the court? Chukwu played hurt for long stretches while he was here. If the guy has trouble moving, play the next guy on the bench, so maybe you have a healthy guy out there. He might play better.

I can't stand how many times I have watched us play physically limited players, and not play guys on the bench.

Of course, this year we have no bench, but that was his choice, and now (SHOCKER), guys are getting hurt.

 

[rrlbees]

Sidibe had to play / tried to play off and on hurt for a couple seasons. Same thing with DuJuan Coleman, Matt Moyer, the kid who transferred to Vanderbilt, that's what the Grant family said about how we handled Jerami. There were a couple others guys that had to play injured, I'm not remembering them all.

Edit: I think Mike Gbinije is another guy who played when banged up with minor injuries. We do play a lot of guys "through hell or high water". I think there were a couple more guards over recent years.

Don't you remember a couple teams where we were down to only 6 or 7 healthy guys by March in the last few years, around three or four years ago?

You said guys left because they had to play hurt. Sid didn’t leave. Coleman didn’t leave. None of them left because of that. And I’ll bet many players wanted to play before medical released them.

 

[rrlbees]

Don't you remember watching guys, lots of them, who could barely run up and down the court? Chukwu played hurt for long stretches while he was here. If the guy has trouble moving, play the next guy on the bench, so maybe you have a healthy guy out there. He might play better.

I can't stand how many times I have watched us play physically limited players, and not play guys on the bench.

Of course, this year we have no bench, but that was his choice, and now (SHOCKER), guys are getting hurt.

I don’t remember anyone playing when they were so hurt they couldn’t move up and down the court. Me thinks you’ve exaggerated this topic.

 

[MikeSU02]

Poor Matt got more time to sit than at SU for 2 years at Vandy.

Are you taking a pot shot at Matt Moyer after someone posted about his issues with playing hurt or not?

 

[Trueblue25]

I don’t remember anyone playing when they were so hurt they couldn’t move up and down the court. Me thinks you’ve exaggerated this topic.

Guerrier and Battle were damn close multiple times. Battle was battling through a wicked back injury. Frank Howard had an abdomen injury he played through as well

 

[kcsu]

Jim has issues and he's old school but i cant ever see him forcing an injured kid to play.

 

[rrlbees]

That pic isn’t from a game he played in.

Everything we know about Matthew Moyer’s injury situation

The forward’s mother, Annette Moyer, spoke to The Daily Orange about why her son decided to sit out against the Wake Forest.

dailyorange.com

 

[rrlbees]

Guerrier and Battle were damn close multiple times. Battle was battling through a wicked back injury. Frank Howard had an abdomen injury he played through as well

Yes kids play banged up all the time. That’s not what I asked.

 

[Cheriehoop]

Are you taking a pot shot at Matt Moyer after someone posted about his issues with playing hurt or not?

Former Syracuse forward Matthew Moyer looks back on Syracuse, ahead at Vanderbilt

Catching up with the former Syracuse forward, who transferred from SU after last season.

dailyorange.com

No pot shots just the truth. He said he left to get more playing time and to play more on the perimeter in this article. He didn’t play more and he did poorly on the perimeter and he transferred a 3rd time. I think many of these stories are sad. Their choices, their lives of course. Hope he’s doing well now.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

My favorite line from the entire series

 

[CuseFaninVT]

Weird last 2 pages of this thread

 

[bballbeadle]

Weird last 2 pages of this thread

Are the first 5 pages not weird? Because I have only read this page, and think it is sufficient unto the day.

 

[Dinkyspond]

JB said tonight during his 3 shows, Learfield, 99K Rock and CuseSportsTalk.com that Sy is going to try and play vs. Wake

 

[MikeSU02]

JB said tonight during his 3 shows, Learfield, 99K Rock and CuseSportsTalk.com that Sy is goingvto try and play vs. Wake

For clarity, does this mean he'll be a game time decision or is he cleared to play and will see how hard/long he can go once the game gets going?

 

[IthacaMatt]

Yep, every season requires differing approaches. But one thing that is always consistently important: depth. JB decided that he could make a go of it with a perilously shallow rotation this season. If the team was good and no one got banged up maybe that’d work. But it hasn’t.

It never does. This has happened several times in the last 10 years. It's one thing to cut your rotation down for conference play, or even further for the tournament season. But you can't start out with only 7 players and too few backups. They might be young and "never get tired", but somehow guys seem to keep breaking down in January or February every year from overuse. Funny how that works out. Quite a coincidence.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Jim Boeheim’s radio show touched on Jesse Edwards, Benny Williams and Symir Torrence’s injury

The Syracuse basketball coach does a weekly radio show with Matt Park Thursday nights on TK-99.

www.syracuse.com

On Symir Torrence’s availability for Saturday’s game against Wake (Torrence injured his knee against Duke and did not play at Pittsburgh): “I think he’ll be able to go Saturday. He’s missed a couple days of practice but hopefully he’ll be able to go and be fine.”

 

[dlegend44]

It never does. This has happened several times in the last 10 years. It's one thing to cut your rotation down for conference play, or even further for the tournament season. But you can't start out with only 7 players and too few backups. They might be young and "never get tired", but somehow guys seem to keep breaking down in January or February every year from overuse. Funny how that works out. Quite a coincidence.

Are you making the argument that Symir has been played a recklessly high amount of minutes this season and that is the cause of his injury?

 

[IthacaMatt]

Are you making the argument that Symir has been played a recklessly high amount of minutes this season and that is the cause of his injury?

No, I'm not. Have you been a fan, for say the last 10 years? Does it seem to you that we frequently play with guys who are hobbled, who can't jump, who can't get back down the floor on defense? I mentioned a half dozen off the top of my head in that other post. I'm sure there are more.

Does it bother you that there are not 4 legit Division 1 guards on the roster, or 4 legit forwards, so we can have a proper practice without using walkons?

 

[dlegend44]

No, I'm not. Have you been a fan, for say the last 10 years? Does it seem to you that we frequently play with guys who are hobbled, who can't jump, who can't get back down the floor on defense? I mentioned a half dozen off the top of my head in that other post. I'm sure there are more.

Does it bother you that there are not 4 legit Division 1 guards on the roster, or 4 legit forwards, so we can have a proper practice without using walkons?

I don't have the time to read all of the posts on this board. I read the last post in this thread about the Symir injury and I was trying to understand the point you were making.

Since you asked what bothers me, it is baseball not using the DH in both leagues and the overtime rules in the NFL that don't give each team at least one possession. It also bothers me when people rant on message boards and get completely off topic from the intended title (sarcastic font).

I have been a fan since birth...pretty sure we are on the same side!

 

[grepal]

Yes kids play banged up all the time. That’s not what I asked.

My coachtold me Icould play hurt and I pain but he made me sit when I had areal injury wven though I wanted to try.

 

[SWC75]

JB said tonight during his 3 shows, Learfield, 99K Rock and CuseSportsTalk.com that Sy is going to try and play vs. Wake

I thought he was saying that but I'd missed who he was talking about. He'd said earlier that Sy will "be out for a while" so I wasn't sure he was talking about Symir and decided to leave it out of my summary.

 

[Cheriehoop]

You said guys left because they had to play hurt. Sid didn’t leave. Coleman didn’t leave. None of them left because of that. And I’ll bet many players wanted to play before medical released them.

True. Kids want to play - the medical staff has the final say if they can or not. Rather ironic that the football board was going nuts on SU’s doctor for disqualifying players for injuries that parents, players, and many fans wanted to continue to play. Some of those same fans are taking an opposite stance now. Hmm .

 

[IthacaMatt]

Yes kids play banged up all the time. That’s not what I asked.

Yeah, but why is it that so many of our guys get chronic injuries that last a month or two of the season? Because they coach never sits them, so they can get more treatment and maybe rest for a week and get better.

Soccer coaches, where people play even more compressed schedules (3 games a week vs. 2 games a week for NCAA hoops), when players get muscular injuries, giving them time off avoids or lessens the likelihood of the injury becoming a chronic issue.

When Quincy was unable to jump for defensive rebounds, and was mostly locking arms with guys to try to get rebounds, was that really the best guy we could have put out there - a guy who couldn't jump? If he was unable to jump, how well do you think he was moving laterally?

That's what I was talking about. Basketball is not football. Muscle injuries recover faster with treatment and rest, or else they become chronic. Roster mismanagement in a different form.

 

[NorSyr66]

Emperor's new clothes????

 

[NorSyr66]

Jim Boeheim’s radio show touched on Jesse Edwards, Benny Williams and Symir Torrence’s injury

The Syracuse basketball coach does a weekly radio show with Matt Park Thursday nights on TK-99.

www.syracuse.com

On Symir Torrence’s availability for Saturday’s game against Wake (Torrence injured his knee against Duke and did not play at Pittsburgh): “I think he’ll be able to go Saturday. He’s missed a couple days of practice but hopefully he’ll be able to go and be fine.”

I hope I am not picking on an injured player but Symir on one leg is better than what we had Tuesday night against Pitt!!!