Symir Injury...

[NorSyr66]

Wow...expected to come here and get an update on Symir's injury! Surprise.

 

[STEVEHOLT]

The real difference between you and others who see it your way and me is that I don't believe that Jim Boeheim would consciously do anything to hurt the Syracuse University basketball program, even to promote his sons, (both of whom are very good college basketball players) and do you do believe that he would. It's character issue and I have too much respect for his character to agree with you.

Believe is the key word here. Believe is like faith. It’s not a quantifiable thing. Results are probably a better gage

 

[STEVEHOLT]

Smashed his head into Duke guy’s chin. Quit a bit of blood. Somehow the Duke guy was unfazed.

Because panchero is built like a freaking goon from the final few contenders of Mike Tysons Punch Out

 

[SWC75]

Believe is the key word here. Believe is like faith. It’s not a quantifiable thing. Results are probably a better gage

Dino Babers defines faith as "belief without evidence". I had enough of belief without evidence on January 6th of last year. Both coaches, (and all coaches) badly need the evidence to keep their jobs.

What i don't like is what I call naive pessimism: the tendency to take the worst view of things and dismiss any evidence or logic that contradicts that view. It's just as unrealistic as naive optimism. That's why I try to remain centered: acknowledging the facts, not decaling things are not established fact to be the truth and remaining hopeful, which is the essence of being a true fan.

 

[pearl31]

any evidence or logic

Perhaps take a gander in the 'Stats to ponder' thread

 

[MikeSU02]

is Sy playing tonight or no?

 

[721Comstock]

is Sy playing tonight or no?

I'ma guess NO.

Dude had a concussion, or at least - the signs of having had one.

 

[MSOrange]

I'ma guess NO.

Dude had a concussion, or at least - the signs of having had one.

Agree. I highly doubt it based on the symptoms he was quoted as having. Definitely needs to be in the concussion protocol.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[djcon57]

Dino Babers defines faith as "belief without evidence". I had enough of belief without evidence on January 6th of last year. Both coaches, (and all coaches) badly need the evidence to keep their jobs.

What i don't like is what I call naive pessimism: the tendency to take the worst view of things and dismiss any evidence or logic that contradicts that view. It's just as unrealistic as naive optimism. That's why I try to remain centered: acknowledging the facts, not decaling things are not established fact to be the truth and remaining hopeful, which is the essence of being a true fan.

Thats a fair take...but I guess my main beef around here is there was plenty of evidence and logic that pointed to this being a downhill slide going into the season. Yet everytime I pointed it out in the preseason there was a myriad of folks suggesting I was a Debby Downer, Bad Fan, etc.

I wasn't. I was seeing things that were MASSIVE RED FLAGS and I was scared this was going to be the result.
Just as I pointed out when everyone was excited that we could go 0-5 to end the season. It wasnt to be a jerk, its because I legit thought it could occur

Is what it is at this point. Glad to see more folks recognize whats going on.

 

[SWC75]

Thats a fair take...but I guess my main beef around here is there was plenty of evidence and logic that pointed to this being a downhill slide going into the season. Yet everytime I pointed it out in the preseason there was a myriad of folks suggesting I was a Debby Downer, Bad Fan, etc.

I wasn't. I was seeing things that were MASSIVE RED FLAGS and I was scared this was going to be the result.
Just as I pointed out when everyone was excited that we could go 0-5 to end the season. It wasnt to be a jerk, its because I legit thought it could occur

Is what it is at this point. Glad to see more folks recognize whats going on.

My view from my SU Basketball Preview, posted last October:

"I like our roster. I think everyone can play at this level. I don’t think that anyone is a ‘project’ - anymore. We have increased size and great depth in big men. We may finally have a true center who can dominate inside. Swider, Boeheim and Williams could be a great forward rotation while the Buddy and Joe show continues in the backcourt. Those two may not be defensive whizzes but a third year playing together should count for something. We’ve lost some good individual defensive players but the Boeheim zone is all about team defense and it plays better when we are big, which we now are at 4 positions. Symir, at the least, should make a fine third guard. There’s going to be plenty of outside shooting, although we’ve had some recent teams that thought they’d be a superior perimeter team that struggled due to the lack of an inside scoring presence. Maybe we can change that now. My main concern is depth at forward and guard. Three man rotations are great but what if we get injuries and foul trouble? Who among the centers could play forward? Who among the forwards could help out at guard? Who among the guards could help out at forward? Everybody wishes we had Kadary Richmond. I wish we had Robert Braswell or Woody Newton, as well... I think ACC basketball is going to be rather like ACC football: rather flat but competitive, with the traditional powers not at their peak and other schools having teams that will have a real chance at the title for the first time in a while, perhaps a long while. The post season will be what it always is: a spinning roulette wheel where many favorites go down but the eventual champ will be someone who has been (consistently) good all season and is (occasionally) great at the tight time. Could that be Syracuse? Stay tuned."

 

[djcon57]

My view from my SU Basketball Preview, posted last October:

"I like our roster. I think everyone can play at this level. I don’t think that anyone is a ‘project’ - anymore. We have increased size and great depth in big men. We may finally have a true center who can dominate inside. Swider, Boeheim and Williams could be a great forward rotation while the Buddy and Joe show continues in the backcourt. Those two may not be defensive whizzes but a third year playing together should count for something. We’ve lost some good individual defensive players but the Boeheim zone is all about team defense and it plays better when we are big, which we now are at 4 positions. Symir, at the least, should make a fine third guard. There’s going to be plenty of outside shooting, although we’ve had some recent teams that thought they’d be a superior perimeter team that struggled due to the lack of an inside scoring presence. Maybe we can change that now. My main concern is depth at forward and guard. Three man rotations are great but what if we get injuries and foul trouble? Who among the centers could play forward? Who among the forwards could help out at guard? Who among the guards could help out at forward? Everybody wishes we had Kadary Richmond. I wish we had Robert Braswell or Woody Newton, as well... I think ACC basketball is going to be rather like ACC football: rather flat but competitive, with the traditional powers not at their peak and other schools having teams that will have a real chance at the title for the first time in a while, perhaps a long while. The post season will be what it always is: a spinning roulette wheel where many favorites go down but the eventual champ will be someone who has been (consistently) good all season and is (occasionally) great at the tight time. Could that be Syracuse? Stay tuned."

Yeah...you have some fair points, but I think most everyone whiffed on how bad the zone would be.

I didnt take Jim's words at face value. He was dead wrong about the who played defense well in the zone. The folks that left were massive. I pointed it out frequently in the off season.

 

[OrangeXtreme]