Syracuse football not planning any MetLife Stadium games after 2016, according to official (PS)

[KaiserUEO]

I don't care that they play the very occasional game at either, just not 14 of them and only when we have 7 home games scheduled. Then we would be giving up an away game instead of a potential home game. This program needs 2 things MORE than anything. Wins #1 and increased home attendance #2. The chances for either are better in the Dome than they are in NJ or NYC.

i would love to see them at 7-4-1 for around 50% of the games, it should be doable some of the time.

the others at no less than 6-5-1...provided the 5th is a directional somebody or whatever.

its good to go on the road noncon and win.

 

[Scooch]

I don't care that they play the very occasional game at either, just not 14 of them and only when we have 7 home games scheduled. Then we would be giving up an away game instead of a potential home game. This program needs 2 things MORE than anything. Wins #1 and increased home attendance #2. The chances for either are better in the Dome than they are in NJ or NYC.

I'm wondering how we get to 7 home games consistently?

We always play 4 road ACC games. We also seem to be always scheduling at least 1 P5 OOC opponent on the road as well as part of home-and-home series (N'western, Minnesota, Washington, LSU, etc). So that means we'd play no other road games each year aside from those 5.

We play 4 home ACC games, and can always schedule a FCS or mid-major FBS as a home-only. Maybe even one of each. Where do the other 1 or 2 home games come from then? Ones that presumably don't involve a home-and-home with a P5 school?

Logistically I'm not clear on how we get to 7 every year.

*edit* I see we've scheduled Central Michigan as a 2-for-1. Maybe that's the path to 7 every year? Would mean we'd have no P5 OOC road game every third year when we have to make the trip for the 1.

 

[Chris02M]

I'm wondering how we get to 7 home games consistently?

We always play 4 road ACC games. We also seem to be always scheduling at least 1 P5 OOC opponent on the road as well as part of home-and-home series (N'western, Minnesota, Washington, LSU, etc). So that means we'd play no other road games each year aside from those 5.

We play 4 home ACC games, and can always schedule a FCS or mid-major FBS as a home-only. Maybe even one of each. Where do the other 1 or 2 home games come from then? Ones that presumably don't involve a home-and-home with a P5 school?

Logistically I'm not clear on how we get to 7 every year.

easy 4 home conference games 3 non conference home games 4 non conference road games and 1 non conference neutral or away game

 

[Chris02M]

doesn't have to be every year but 3 out 4 years should be doable

 

[Scooch]

easy 4 home conference games 3 non conference home games 4 non conference road games and 1 non conference neutral or away game

Yeah, but that's not taking into account that we don't get to make schedules in a vacuum. We have to find schools that will do 2-for-1s, or home-onlies. Central Michigan did a 2-for-1. Will we see a steady diet of MAC schools then, because I don't see AAC's schools doing it.

 

[Chris02M]

Yeah, but that's not taking into account that we don't get to make schedules in a vacuum. We have to find schools that will do 2-for-1s. Central Michigan did. Will we see a steady diet of MAC schools then, because I don't see AAC's schools doing it.

our schedule sheet is pretty vacant after next year so it shouldn't be that hard to do

 

[Scooch]

our schedule sheet is pretty vacant after next year so it shouldn't be that hard to do

Again, we need schools to agree to a deal. We can't just tell some random MAC school that they gotta come play at the Dome without a return trip. Or force some C-USA school into a 2-for-1.

Just because we have open dates and *want* to have 7 home games doesn't mean it'll magically happen.

 

[Chris02M]

Again, we need schools to agree to a deal. We can't just tell some random MAC school that they gotta come play at the Dome without a return trip. Or force some C-USA school into a 2-for-1.

Just because we have open dates and *want* to have 7 home games doesn't mean it'll magically happen.

doesn't have to be every year 3 out 4 years. we have 7 home games next year

 

[cuseguy]

posted this in the daily articles thread: The Yankees Stadium option is so much better than Met Life it isn't even funny. Imagine the people living in NYC. Getting to Met Life from NYC is a pain, no way around it. Getting to Yankee Stadium, however gives many public transit options for ALL of NYC, ALL of close NJ residents (Hoboken, et al.), ALL of Westchester County and is an easier trip for those along 87 and 81. I'm not sure why they wouldn't do that. 15 minutes from midtown Manhattan on the Metro North. 25 Minutes from Midtown via the Lexington Ave. subway line... It's a better option for SU for getting NYC fans than MetLife.

MetLife is so much better than Yankee Stadium. There's little to no tailgating at Yankee Stadium. It's a suspect area. The sightlines and seating for football isn't good at YS.

 

[rrlbees]

I'm wondering how we get to 7 home games consistently? We always play 4 road ACC games. We also seem to be always scheduling at least 1 P5 OOC opponent on the road as well as part of home-and-home series (N'western, Minnesota, Washington, LSU, etc). So that means we'd play no other road games each year aside from those 5. We play 4 home ACC games, and can always schedule a FCS or mid-major FBS as a home-only. Maybe even one of each. Where do the other 1 or 2 home games come from then? Ones that presumably don't involve a home-and-home with a P5 school? Logistically I'm not clear on how we get to 7 every year. *edit* I see we've scheduled Central Michigan as a 2-for-1. Maybe that's the path to 7 every year? Would mean we'd have no P5 OOC road game every third year when we have to make the trip for the 1.

I don't think we'd ever be able to get to 7 every year. That is unrealistic of course. But it is possible some years as other schools find a way. What I'm saying is that in those years we play 7 at home, plus the 4 ACC away games, we could play at YS or Metlife.

 

[RF2044]

Again, we need schools to agree to a deal. We can't just tell some random MAC school that they gotta come play at the Dome without a return trip. Or force some C-USA school into a 2-for-1.

Just because we have open dates and *want* to have 7 home games doesn't mean it'll magically happen.

To say nothing of the host of contextual factors that would also go into that decision. I.E., how much the payout would have to be to induce schools to come here, the need to balance home versus away game scheduling on the other team's schedule, other teams' availability on the weekends we have vacancies [they might not], whether they would deem it to be disadvantageous to play a road game if they believe they might be in bowl contention, etc.

 

[Scooch]

I don't think we'd ever be able to get to 7 every year. That is unrealistic of course. But it is possible some years as other schools find a way. What I'm saying is that in those years we play 7 at home, plus the 4 ACC away games, we could play at YS or Metlife.

Gotcha.

If we had a year where we had 6 home games, 5 road games, and 1 game in NYC against a Rutgers, Army or UConn, I think that'd be cool too.

I feel like a lot of the negativity towards the MetLife series from CNYers (excluding USC, that switch was poor form, IMHO) came from the fact that they were attractive opponents. I don't get the sense that people will freak out as much if we're playing Army at Yankee Stadium.

Of course, I'm sure people will anyway. Just because.

 

[Scooch]

MetLife is so much better than Yankee Stadium. There's little to no tailgating at Yankee Stadium. It's a suspect area. The sightlines and seating for football isn't good at YS.

Logistically, absolutely.

Some of the attraction (for me, anyway) is that if we were to play metro NY opponents there (Rutgers, UConn, Army) we'd own more of the stadium from a standpoint. That'd be nice.

 

[CuseOnly]

"And for a team to be able to wear that uniform, everything has to be done right. You have to have the numbers, the duplicate numbers ... the right sizing ... its a large process to get a whole compliment in. So theyll only be worn, Brent, if theyre completely ready to be worn."

WTH was that?

I have heard some politican side-stepping before but that was pretty epic. You order uniforms that you have agreed to, you give a deadline by when you need them. You get them by said deadline or there are repercussions.

That is usually how it works.

 

[Alsacs]

i dont give a shlit what the they call it...home, away...neutral.

hell, i dont even really care what # they brought.

my point is...its always a neutral. but if 'calling' it a home game gives us more $$ then...yippie ki-yay mutha-fluckas!!

i dont see at all how its amateur hour...and believe me, i would LOVE to call it amateur hour. pointing out the schools ridiculousness is enjoyable. sadly, this isnt one of their miscues.

calling these nd games 'home games' are a monster 'home run' (pun intended), because they still play 6 games in the Dome.

we lost 1 game from the Dome, usc...but if the net was more $$, then thats a good business decision and i am all for it.

every trade hurts, trading peoples feelings for $$$ is good business.

Kaiser you are smarter than this. Either you are making mistakes on accident which I believe or you want to gloss over facts against you .

First it is not one game it is 2 games that Notre Dame is holding us over the barrel.
How many teams from major conferences play "home" games 300 miles from campus? The answer is major teams don't play home games 300 miles from campus. It reeks of desperation for money which is the excuse Gross has given.
If we played neutral site games at MetLife stadium we would be doing what a lot of schools are doing and playing games in NFL stadiums without having to play road games on the opponent's home field. You ignore this point because it shows how small time we are by playing these games. Notre Dame put a clown suit on Syracuse football. Syracuse didn't need Notre Dame games.
I understand you like NYC games and many others do as well. I do not hate MetLife games I just want people to stop looking at the deal we made and not call out lipstick on a pig deal we signed with Notre Dame and for people to stop ignoring it.
It is okay to admit it was a crap deal for Syracuse football. We still have to play those games at South Bend they are just being delayed.
If we can get teams to play us in MetLife without playing a return game on their campus then we should do it.
For example say Texas said we will play you at MetLife Stadium and you will play us at JerryWorld then that works. Both teams would be playing off campus in areas Dallas for Texas, New York City for Syracuse. I would rather play true home/homes but this type of deal would be okay because its home-neutral/home-neutral.
Playing at Texas and then our home game at MetLife is smalltime mid major which is what Notre Dame did to us.

 

[Scooch]

Why do we care about looking "small time"?

Who gives a crap how others think we look?

My God, LET IT GO!

 

[TheCusian]

Kaiser you are smarter than this. Either you are making mistakes on accident which I believe or you want to gloss over facts against you . First it is not one game it is 2 games that Notre Dame is holding us over the barrel. How many teams from major conferences play "home" games 300 miles from campus? The answer is major teams don't play home games 300 miles from campus. It reeks of desperation for money which is the excuse Gross has given. If we played neutral site games at MetLife stadium we would be doing what a lot of schools are doing and playing games in NFL stadiums without having to play road games on the opponent's home field. You ignore this point because it shows how small time we are by playing these games. Notre Dame put a clown suit on Syracuse football. Syracuse didn't need Notre Dame games. I understand you like NYC games and many others do as well. I do not hate MetLife games I just want people to stop looking at the deal we made and not call out lipstick on a pig deal we signed with Notre Dame and for people to stop ignoring it. It is okay to admit it was a crap deal for Syracuse football. We still have to play those games at South Bend they are just being delayed. If we can get teams to play us in MetLife without playing a return game on their campus then we should do it. For example say Texas said we will play you at MetLife Stadium and you will play us at JerryWorld then that works. Both teams would be playing off campus in areas Dallas for Texas, New York City for Syracuse. I would rather play true home/homes but this type of deal would be okay because its home-neutral/home-neutral. Playing at Texas and then our home game at MetLife is smalltime mid major which is what Notre Dame did to us.

It reeks of desperation for money - because at the time we were desperate for money and exposure.

 

[Alsacs]

Why do we care about looking "small time"?

Who gives a crap how others think we look?

My God, LET IT GO!

Here is a better idea if you disagree with my opinion instead if telling me to let it go tell why I am wrong. If you can not do that then just ignore my statement my opinion won't change because you tell me to let it go. Our team sucks right now so this is the discussion. I like you as a poster but my opinion is pretty fair.