Syracuse is 3-0!

[phil77]

That was going to be my next question is do people want a coach who is getting middle of road players or want a guy like Fran who is going to recruit and figure out the coaching later ? I don’t think there’s a perfect model bc a great coach can’t coach average players to victory always and great players can’t win always with average coaching.

Our basketball program shouldnt be the same as our football program. We shouldn't be at a point where we have to pick one or the other. We can get a coach that is good at one and great at the other. It doesn't have to be one or the other.

 

[djcon57]

Yes, they're not playing well. But we had some awful games at the beginning of last year, too, and still won 20 games.

Cool. So barely making the NiT?

 

[two3zone]

People said the same thing about DJ Burns defense, and NC State made the Final Four. Also, Eddie will improve and has been battling some back trouble. You can see it when he moves out there right now. Plus he managed to be good enough last year to be the starting center on a tournament team.

They almost didn't make it out of the first weekend of the ACC tournament.

They had an AMAZING run, but I don't think DJ had 3 turnstiles starting with him who can't get by a pick properly.

It's not the same.

 

[two3zone]

Langel has coached circles around red two years in a row, might as well start with him.

And JB for two years before that.

 

[malpearl31]

You're right on the 2021 team, but I'm not sure they got better rather than they just played Kadary a lot more than Joe down the stretch.

I went back and looked, and actually I think Sherman20 had it right…

For the 2020-21 season, here are the minutes per game for JG3, Kadary and Braswell:
- JG3: 27.7 mpg
- KR: 21.0 mpg
- RB: 12.1 mpg

In the last 7 games of the season, when Syracuse went 5-2 (including the run to the Sweet 16):
- JG3: 24.3 mpg
- KR: 18.3 mpg
- RB: 18.7 mpg

And in the last 5 games (ACC Tourney and NCAA Tourney games only), Braswell actually averaged 23.4 minutes per game. His playing time essentially doubled down the stretch, when we were arguably playing our best ball of the season.

 

[Vorony]

Cool. So barely making the NiT?

The “20 games” thing drives me crazy around here. Who cares if we won 20 games last year? We missed the tournament yet again. Making the tournament is the benchmark of success for a season - not winning 20 games.

 

[SYRtoBOS]

The “20 games” thing drives me crazy around here. Who cares if we won 20 games last year? We missed the tournament yet again. Making the tournament is the benchmark of success for a season - not winning 20 games.

They used to go hand in hand back when the big east was top dog…

 

[two3zone]

I went back and looked, and actually I think Sherman20 had it right…

For the 2020-21 season, here are the minutes per game for JG3, Kadary and Braswell:
- JG3: 27.7 mpg
- KR: 21.0 mpg
- RB: 12.1 mpg

In the last 7 games of the season, when Syracuse went 5-2 (including the run to the Sweet 16):
- JG3: 24.3 mpg
- KR: 18.3 mpg
- RB: 18.7 mpg

And in the last 5 games (ACC Tourney and NCAA Tourney games only), Braswell actually averaged 23.4 minutes per game. His playing time essentially doubled down the stretch, when we were arguably playing our best ball of the season.

Isn't down the stretch before the tournaments?

 

[tptcuse]

The thing about Boeheim teams is that we almost always got off to fast starts, winning our first 10 or 15 games seemingly every year for a decade or more. And then we always fell apart for a couple weeks in mid-January / early February. Then it was whether we could get back our mojo.

I don't recall him taking many teams that started the season badly and turning it around. Usually, if we started the season badly, we missed the tournament.

That's fair. My only point was there is no trust that Red will win where we almost always thought JB would win.

 

[tptcuse]

Last year happened. That was the opposite of turning it around.

A sample size of one season.

 

[two3zone]

A sample size of one season.

0 for 1, let's hope it's not 0-2.

 

[tptcuse]

0 for 1, let's hope it's not 0-2.

Amen to that.