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Syracuse opens at +21 at Clemson

I can't remember where I saw it, but some website had it at 33-34 points... Of course, this caused me to look into the odds a little deeper, where the 3 touchdown spread was the norm. I'm no Carnac the Magnificent, but I do see a good football game with Clemson. The Clemson QB issue is interesting. Defense wins games, offense sells tickets, and Coach B knows that...

33-34 is ABSURD. 5Dimes currently has it 25 1/2.
 
Its pretty disconcerting to me that the line keeps going up. Its a "too good to be true" line. On the surface, it appears this is easy money because i think Cuse could definitely come within 25 pts, but typically with these types of lines some smart Vegas guys know something, and what appeared to be easy money is not actually the case.
 
Its pretty disconcerting to me that the line keeps going up. Its a "too good to be true" line. On the surface, it appears this is easy money because i think Cuse could definitely come within 25 pts, but typically with these types of lines some smart Vegas guys know something, and what appeared to be easy money is not actually the case.
It's still going up and is showing on some places at 25.5 pts.

Let's see what the late money and sharps do late Friday and Saturday morning and if there is late downward movement.

gonna be interesting.
 
I hope Clemson loses every game that they play in absolutely every in which they play.

May Clemson never schedule Georgetown, UConn, WVU, and PSU.

I don’t feel a need to defend Clemson and I feel you are free to hold that opinion/feeling, but I am genuinely curious as to why you feel so strongly. (You don’t have to answer if you don’t want to...)
 
My point is that DeVito having a faster straight line speed than Dungey doesn't make him a more dynamic runner than Dungey. I feel like you're being willfully obtuse.

So true and documented 40 times are a baseline, a starting point. Game speed is another thing as well as an ability to make guys miss and read a situation.
 
That's bigger than the line last year. That's insanity.
IT really is considering that Week the experienced QB is transferring, and they are starting a freshman (albeit a good one) all alone against a team that harassed them last year. MIght be Death Valley effect... but I don’t really care. I don’t bet on CFB
 
There's very little film on Lawrence because he and Bryant split the snaps. After TAMU, Syracuse is the best team Clemson has played and has a better offense than anyone they've played. How will Lawrence handle the pressure? Dabo put Bryant in to win the game at College Station. Trevor is supposed to be the man, now we'll see.
 
I'm sure back in 2001 there were those who thought SU +20 at Miami was easy money. Not saying 2018 Clemson is anywhere near 2001 the U, but I don't assume anything is easy money when it comes to Vegas, so for all those taking the points this weekend

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It is a little troubling that the line keeps going up. There is no such thing as “free money.” Maybe this kid QB is better than we could have imagined and Vegas knows it? I’m officially concerned.
 
who has any idea how he will play.. he hasnt seen any defense played against him yet.. he can throw though. maybe he just sits back and throws cause we cant create pressure too.. if we can vcreate pressure the lines too high. if we cant we have to score 40 to win
 
If they are within a TD in the 4th... I don't know how that works out

I've contemplated getting sick and staying home but my wife won't believe it even if I'm 100% full exorcist girl
Dvr and drive straight home with the radio off. Watch the whole game in less than 3 hours as if you are watching it live and have the ability to speed up time itself.
 
Prior to getting hurt in the SU game last year Bryant produced very little against us. Believe me I would love to be wrong but I don't think it's going to take long for you to realize that Lawrence is a better QB than Bryant.
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Prior to getting hurt in the SU game last year Bryant produced very little against us. Believe me I would love to be wrong but I don't think it's going to take long for you to realize that Lawrence is a better QB than Bryant.
Bryant was hurt coming in from the previous game, obvious he could not run well from the first series and Syracuse jumped all over it. Mix that with venebles not having D prepped properly for the fast tempo, throw in a fearless Dungy and viola, upset.
 
Bryant was hurt coming in from the previous game, obvious he could not run well from the first series and Syracuse jumped all over it. Mix that with venebles not having D prepped properly for the fast tempo, throw in a fearless Dungy and viola, upset.
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I didn't even know she was there!
 
Sounds crazy, but I have never bet on a game. And seeing this line, I need to learn how to get a bet in. Help a brother out! lol
 
There's very little film on Lawrence because he and Bryant split the snaps. After TAMU, Syracuse is the best team Clemson has played and has a better offense than anyone they've played. How will Lawrence handle the pressure? Dabo put Bryant in to win the game at College Station. Trevor is supposed to be the man, now we'll see.
I realize power ratings aren't everything, especially this early in the season before the schedules are sufficiently connected, so large grain of salt here.

S&P+
Clemson #3 ovr (#9 off, #9 def)
TAMU #26 ovr (#15 off, #58 def)
Syracuse #50 ovr (#49 off, #61 def)
Nerds #70 ovr (#47 off, #86 def)

SAGARIN
Clemson #4
TAMU #12
Syracuse #47
Nerds #59

FPI
Clemson #5 (#20 off, #3 def)
TAMU #14 (#21 off, #63 def)
Syracuse #40 (#51 off, #29 def)
Nerds #51 (#54 off, #89 def)
 
I realize power ratings aren't everything, especially this early in the season before the schedules are sufficiently connected, so large grain of salt here.

S&P+
Clemson #3 ovr (#9 off, #9 def)
TAMU #26 ovr (#15 off, #58 def)
Syracuse #50 ovr (#49 off, #61 def)
Nerds #70 ovr (#47 off, #86 def)

SAGARIN
Clemson #4
TAMU #12
Syracuse #47
Nerds #59

FPI
Clemson #5 (#20 off, #3 def)
TAMU #14 (#21 off, #63 def)
Syracuse #40 (#51 off, #29 def)
Nerds #51 (#54 off, #89 def)
It's a great thing to play a highly rated program, especially in a place like Death Valley. You guys are clearly talented with high expectations for the season. I think you see that many SU fans like Clemson, myself included. However, games are won and lost on the field and not by stats. With great effort by SU and good fortune, the game may be a good contest with an opportunity to prevail. That hope is what makes us fans...best wishes to Clemson in all games this year but one...tomorrow.
 
It's a great thing to play a highly rated program, especially in a place like Death Valley. You guys are clearly talented with high expectations for the season. I think you see that many SU fans like Clemson, myself included. However, games are won and lost on the field and not by stats. With great effort by SU and good fortune, the game may be a good contest with an opportunity to prevail. That hope is what makes us fans...best wishes to Clemson in all games this year but one...tomorrow.
I agree. Power ratings probably looked similar to that last year. Always a chance in sports. I’m surprised by the point spread.
 
It is a little troubling that the line keeps going up. There is no such thing as “free money.” Maybe this kid QB is better than we could have imagined and Vegas knows it? I’m officially concerned.
Don’t worry. Line movements have nothing to do with who’s going to cover or win. The line going up means Joe Bag of Donuts is betting clemson. Joe Bag of donuts has no idea who’s going to win. As a matter of fact, the sharps have no idea either. Thats why 90% of them are under 50% win rate . It all means literally nothing.
 
Don’t worry. Line movements have nothing to do with who’s going to cover or win. The line going up means Joe Bag of Donuts is betting clemson. Joe Bag of donuts has no idea who’s going to win. As a matter of fact, the sharps have no idea either. Thats why 90% of them are under 50% win rate . It all means literally nothing.
+1400 on the moneyline. That seems like a lot of value.
 
listened a little last night to dino and he said point spread does play somewhat into his strategy.
it's house money.
 
Bryant was hurt coming in from the previous game, obvious he could not run well from the first series and Syracuse jumped all over it. Mix that with venebles not having D prepped properly for the fast tempo, throw in a fearless Dungy and viola, upset.

He was up and down a lot last year and it wasn't just injury related. Got exposed in the CFP. He's just not in Lawrence's league.
 

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