Syracuse - Wisconsin series announced

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TNIAAM has been my go to blog on SU Sports these past 5 years but jekelish Otto'sGrove has been moving up my charts.
If we are worried about games 5 years from now we have beyond #firstworldproblems.

This Wisconsin series is fresh and good as long as we don't schedule another P5 team during those 2 years.

That's the big question, especially because SU is behind a lot of other P5 schools when it comes to OOC scheduling.

I'm looking forward to another trip to Madison, but I don't like what Bailey pointed out, which is that in 6 of 7 years, SU will face one of ND/LSU/Wisconsin.

We wonder why NC State is perceived to be in much better shape than SU, but if they go 8-4 by beating nobody in their OOC and land a decent bowl, that perception will continue to perpetuate.

 

[Alsacs]

That's the big question, especially because SU is behind a lot of other P5 schools when it comes to OOC scheduling.

I'm looking forward to another trip to Madison, but I don't like what Bailey pointed out, which is that in 6 of 7 years, SU will face one of ND/LSU/Wisconsin.

We wonder why NC State is perceived to be in much better shape than SU, but if they go 8-4 by beating nobody in their OOC and land a decent bowl, that perception will continue to perpetuate.

NC State has to beat 4 of SU/Wake/BC/UNC/UL/VPI to get to 8-4. Their hype is funny. Their OOC schedule is getting them mocked.
Also, NC State has been mediocre but they have always recruited better than SU. If we had NCSU's talent that their coaches Amato/TOB always has What losses to go with FSU upsets.

 

[texascpa]

Hope we reload from our '18 and '19 national championships

You are the greatest SU optimist ever.

 

[NKR1978]

You are the greatest SU optimist ever.

Be careful...if CuseHulk posted here, he might fight you.

 

[Full_Rebar]

NC State has to beat 4 of SU/Wake/BC/UNC/UL/VPI to get to 8-4. Their hype is funny. Their OOC schedule is getting them mocked.
Also, NC State has been mediocre but they have always recruited better than SU. If we had NCSU's talent that their coaches Amato/TOB always has What losses to go with FSU upsets.

I get your point, but when it's November and they are receiving votes, no one's mocking them...and that doesn't hurt their recruiting. Would you rather have media mocking the OOC, or predicting 2 win seasons because they just assume SU sucks?

 

[SU68]

BTW, I set post #14 as the O/U for the first "THIS SUCKS! It's only 5 years away, our schedule should be ITT Tech, University of Phoenix, Connecticut School of Broadcasting, and Southern New Hampshire University!"

If we can't get respectable in five years, then we have no business fielding a P-5 team. We don't have to win both games, but we should be able to take one of them.

 

[MikeSU02]

It's also 5 years from now. So we're still going to be so bad in 5 years that we need to schedule 4 terrible OOC teams so we can appear to have a better record?

Shoot me.

5 years? Think about it this way: We haven't had a double digit win season since 2001. Even our "successful years" recently were 7 / 8 win seasons. If it takes us more than two decades to be competitive with Wisconsin, fire everyone.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I'm already getting ready for a defensive struggle played for field position.

I'm kidding. It'll be more like a puntathon.

I'm kidding. This is as good a match up as any and should be fun.

 

[Alsacs]

I get your point, but when it's November and they are receiving votes, no one's mocking them...and that doesn't hurt their recruiting. Would you rather have media mocking the OOC, or predicting 2 win seasons because they just assume SU sucks?

Dude the media is acting like me without orange glasses on. I am accused of being negative because I don't buy this coaching staff and the lack of an offense. I am saying 4-8 or 5-7. These national media are saying worse because they look at our talent and don't believe.
I think we have improved because I follow the program Mandel and these national guys don't follow the program. If we scheduled 4 cupcakes they would have us at 4-8 instead of 2-10. Until we win the program isn't going to get the respect the hoops program gets.

 

[Full_Rebar]

Until we win the program isn't going to get the respect the hoops program gets.

That's my point in the OOC scheduling. The fan in me loves the big games, but the reality in today's CFB is that winning games over a few years is what the program needs most right now.

Now, if SU was playing a Kickoff Classic and pocketing 3-5 mil for playing a powerhouse, I would be more understanding.

 

[anomander]

These games are fun all the way around. Fans, players, and coaches. Hopefully by then we are a top 25 team so I don't see how there can be much criticism. I do hope that the other 3 games will be all very winnable.

 

[Alsacs]

That's my point in the OOC scheduling. The fan in me loves the big games, but the reality in today's CFB is that winning games over a few years is what the program needs most right now.

Now, if SU was playing a Kickoff Classic and pocketing 3-5 mil for playing a powerhouse, I would be more understanding.

3 of 4 games need to be easier games. 1 challenge game is good and pretty much acceptable.

 

[Trueblue25]

You are the greatest SU optimist ever.

Dixon will not only lead us to a bowl this year, but fore-go his sure to be HOF NFL to come back and help guide are scholar athletes to the promised land.

 

[Scooch]

They probably think it's a winnable P5 game

Wisconsin might be too.

 

[Scooch]

That's my point in the OOC scheduling. The fan in me loves the big games, but the reality in today's CFB is that winning games over a few years is what the program needs most right now.

Now, if SU was playing a Kickoff Classic and pocketing 3-5 mil for playing a powerhouse, I would be more understanding.

URI
Wake Forest
Central Michigan
USF
UVA
BC
Pitt
NC State

Those are the very definition of winnable games.

Every year we are going to have at least 8-9 definitionally winnable games assuming we don't revert to GumpRob status. And a couple others that could be plausable upsets if we have a decent team. Or are we just conceding all future games against historic powers Louisville and Clemson?

Now, do I want see us add 2 more upper-tier P5 teams to our OOC schedule in 2020 and 2021? Of course not. But I agree with Millhouse, this is sports, this is a diversion, playing big-time teams is part of what makes it fun. Honestly, white-knuckling to 6 wins while playing 4 crap OOC teams isn't all that fun. And you know who agrees with me? Most all of the SU fan base. How many people went to the Texas Bowl, or the Champs Bowl, or the Music City Bowl? No one. We can only win 6 games and play in the Pinstripe Bowl so many times.

This will be fun. This is a good thing.

 

[OrangeinOmaha]

I love the Nunes site but it is a damn War zone over there right now. Just don't see how anyone can be upset about this, they aren't Ohio State or Alabama and they have gone through like 3 coaches in 5 years so it's tough to even call them a powerhouse. They are a decent Big 10 school that plays in a weak division with no real threat in their division and we should be scared to play them?

People bitch about games going to NYC and beg for marquee games in the Dome and then we get them and they bitch about having to play a tough schedule. Can't win this this fan base.

It's an easy drive from Omaha so I will be there.

 

[gocraz4dasu]

If we scheduled four cupcakes the exact same people complaining now would be the ones complaining that season tickets are down because nobody good is coming to the dome. It's not like Wisconsin isn't a winnable game, this isn't Alabama or Ohio State. At some point we have to buckle down and beat the best. You can't beat the best if you don't schedule them.

 

[rrlbees]

I love the Nunes site but it is a damn War zone over there right now. Just don't see how anyone can be upset about this, they aren't Ohio State or Alabama and they have gone through like 3 coaches in 5 years so it's tough to even call them a powerhouse. They are a decent Big 10 school that plays in a weak division with no real threat in their division and we should be scared to play them? People bitch about games going to NYC and beg for marquee games in the Dome and then we get them and they bitch about having to play a tough schedule. Can't win this this fan base. It's an easy drive from Omaha so I will be there.

I'm one of the biggest complainers about the NYC games. I think those big games should be played here. That's why this is a great thing.

 

[Alsacs]

I'm one of the biggest complainers about the NYC games. I think those big games should be played here. That's why this is a great thing.

Nobody was more vilified than me for saying that Metlife was mid majorish than me. Wisconsin at the Dome is a home run. The people complaining i.e TNIAAM/Nunes are the minority in this instance. His main argument

https://twitter.com/NunesMagician/status/631919170054000640
https://twitter.com/NunesMagician/status/631919350325211136
https://twitter.com/NunesMagician/status/631919636095725568
https://twitter.com/NunesMagician/status/631919759513092097

I completely disagree with this position because Wisconsin is a good game for the Dome and schedule.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Nobody was more vilified than me for saying that Metlife was mid majorish than me. Wisconsin at the Dome is a home run. The people complaining i.e TNIAAM/Nunes are the minority in this instance. His main argument

https://twitter.com/NunesMagician/status/631919170054000640
https://twitter.com/NunesMagician/status/631919350325211136
https://twitter.com/NunesMagician/status/631919636095725568
https://twitter.com/NunesMagician/status/631919759513092097

I completely disagree with this position because Wisconsin is a good game for the Dome and schedule.

National writers won't see our wins against FSU or Wisconsin either.

 

[Full_Rebar]

URI
Wake Forest
Central Michigan
USF
UVA
BC
Pitt
NC State

Those are the very definition of winnable games.

This will be fun. This is a good thing.

I completely agree with you, especially the last part. As a fan, I love this, but as you also pointed out most of us here are looking at those teams and thinking that it's just as likely that SU goes 5-7 as goes 7-5, and that's not giving your program, or your staff any margin of error.

The CFB fan in me loves playing the big games. The SU fan who has watched the program the last 10+ years says why are we doing this all over again?

 

[Scooch]

I completely agree with you, especially the last part. As a fan, I love this, but as you also pointed out most of us here are looking at those teams and thinking that it's just as likely that SU goes 5-7 as goes 7-5, and that's not giving your program, or your staff any margin of error. The CFB fan in me loves playing the big games. The SU fan who has watched the program the last 10+ years says why are we doing this all over again?

I'll jus contend that we haven't been mediocre-to-awful over the last 15 years mainly because of our OOC schedule. Maybe a year or two it's cost us, but it's not a major driver of our problems.

 

[MSOrange]

I love this series especially playing a team we don't typically play like Wisconsin. I watch the games to see Syracuse play regardless but I like having one solid out of conference game to measure ourselves and just to see a good opponent as long as the other ones are winnable.

 

[007]

I'll jus contend that we haven't been mediocre-to-awful over the last 15 years mainly because of our OOC schedule. Maybe a year or two it's cost us, but it's not a major driver of our problems.

It may not be a major factor, but it is most certainly is a contributing factor.

For me, it is as simple as this: this program can not afford to increase the odds that it might miss bowl eligibility regardless of how great it would be play teams like Wisconsin.

 

[Scooch]

It may not be a major factor, but it is most certainly is a contributing factor. For me, it is as simple as this: this program can not afford to increase the odds that it might miss bowl eligibility regardless of how great it would be play teams like Wisconsin.

So we play 4 OOC games forever?